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Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by arthur_sav on Friday June 23, 2023 @04:30AM (#36444252)
It's not just Amazon. All big tech companies have this "trigger happy" approach to closing down accounts. Especially payment companies.

I believe we need to pass down new consumer laws to protect the people. We pretty much rely on their services and they have no accountability.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by thrw_aus on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:01AM (#36444442)
Yeah, but if I can't force people live on the streets because they said a bad word how will people know I'm a good person?
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by optimalsolver on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:45AM (#36446079)
I unironically have no issue with racists being locked out of their homes. Perhaps with the doorbell robot giving them sarcastic responses to their pleas.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by thrw_aus on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:58AM (#36446220)
You're the best person in this thread.

Of course you have to clarify that you mean white racists, because you'd be the most racist person in this thread if you meant the 33% of blacks who want miscegenation to be banned again: https://i.redd.it/fwgz4oyty85b1.png

I guess we should burn your house down just in case.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by sebzim4500 on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:57AM (#36447700)
Interesting. Is there equivalent data on the question "should two people of different races be allowed to marry?". Seems more relevant than the question asked, which is arguably about states rights.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by optimalsolver on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:11PM (#36448866)
I think we've had our fill of "states rights".
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by thrw_aus on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:24PM (#36452344)
Yes California must be crushed under the Unions boots for flaunting federal laws on drugs for decades.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by lom888 on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:00AM (#36446911)
In your opinion, do they have to say a racism or merely think it to be worthy of being locked out of their home?
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by optimalsolver on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:26AM (#36447233)
Hmmm. Tough one. I think making certain expressions in the presence of black people should be enough to qualify.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by jaywalk on Friday June 23, 2023 @11:14AM (#36447986)
Say the rest, which is that it has to be a white person doing it. Because obviously a black person "making certain expressions in the presence of black people" is no problem at all.

So you want white people to lose their house if they hurt a black person's feelings. Totally legitimate position, not insane at all.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by pierat on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:47PM (#36449342)
I heard from someone you said a racist word.

I advocate for you to be locked out of all your stuff, with no trial or anything.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Semaphor on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:13AM (#36444525)
> All big tech companies have this "trigger happy" approach to closing down accounts.

After years, I made my first Instagram post last week. I got instantly banned (it was a picture of a new bag I bought). Apparently the way to get it back is to jump through some hoops and post a selfie with an OTP. I decided that’s a bit much work and I might as well let them delete my account that only follows a bunch of people I know without ever looking at their pictures.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by TrackerFF on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:41AM (#36444694)
I think the dormant accounts problem is legit though - I've lost count how many "dead" accounts I've seen on both my FB and IG feed, that have suddenly become hi-jacked, and start spamming stuff.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Semaphor on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:43AM (#36444703)
Yeah, but in that case it would not be a single picture. And apparently their detection system on the FB side is incapable of blocking new accounts that instantly start friending hundreds of completely unrelated people and posting porn, something that should be pretty easy to detect.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by quitit on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:34AM (#36444638)
In some circumstances, Facebook's app will randomly block you from certain sub-features and request an ear-to-ear scan of your face to unblock them.

It's bonkers, and clear how they go about obtaining their data.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by withinboredom on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:31AM (#36444623)
And the funny part is their metrics will count you as a “spammer” so it will positive-feedback-loop into even less stringent signals.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by unreal37 on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:47AM (#36444719)
If you attempt to use a credit card that you haven't used in years, the bank will similarly ask you to verify your identity. I don't think it's weird that unused valuable accounts need re-identification when you start to use them again.

I don't mind anti-spam measures in cases which are common spam techniques. Hijacking unused accounts is common enough to warrant an approach like this.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by comboy on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:52AM (#36444753)
But instagram is not a bank. I understand not wanting yet another company to have my photo (which nowadays is pretty much knowing who you are) + phone number. Plus it shouldn't require personal identification to post a photo online, especially given how easy it has became to filter out illegal content automatically.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by tinus_hn on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:25AM (#36444970)
Both sides are reasonable, a common form of spam uses hacked accounts that have grown organically, the normal way, and have then been abandoned. Because they have been used the normal way they are ranked higher than accounts created by bots. So it isn’t that strange that the account is flagged if it suddenly starts posting and the first post is some product.

It’s also reasonable not to want to provide Instagram not to have too much information because after all it is Meta, however it’s debatable whether sharing a photo with a photo sharing service is too much information.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Beldin on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:58AM (#36445206)
> > I might as well let them delete my account that only follows a bunch of people I know without ever looking at their pictures.

> Both sides are reasonable, a common form of spam uses hacked accounts that have grown organically, the normal way, and have then been abandoned.

That does not seem to be the case here.

When it comes to money, sure, take caution. When it comes to a dozen-or-so followers+followees, abandoned a decade ago with hardly any posts... congratulations, your marketing efforts or network effects were successful and they're back. Now stop trying to steal their personal data under the guise of "security".

If you must, feel free to make a password recovery via their emergency mail or something, but don't try to steal personal data.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by tinus_hn on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:16AM (#36445316)
If you want to complain, complain about Meta abusing recovery mechanisms for spam.

The rest just doesn’t work; the accounts get hacked using the recovery mechanism because the email accounts get hacked or expire and they get used for spam.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by flagrant_taco on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:02AM (#36446256)
Posting to Instagram really isn't the same as posting a photo to the internet in general though. That for-profit business is running the software, hosting the servers, and writing their own terms of service, they can block what they want at that point.

The real fundamental change after the dot om bubble was that the open web effectively died and was replaced with a handful of walled gardens. If you have your own site and post pictures to it there are very few that can stop you, posting to Instagram and you're effectively politely requesting a company to take rights to your photo and host or online if they would be so kind.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by JohnFen on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:40AM (#36447418)
This. You're putting yourself at the mercy of these companies, and they have no mercy.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by jasonlotito on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:29AM (#36446578)
Having dealt with this professionally in the past, this reads like arm-chair engineering. Someone whose never had to deal with this for real on any scale in the same context.

> But instagram is not a bank.

Doesn't matter. At all.

> Plus it shouldn't require personal identification to post a photo online

Technically, it doesn't.

> especially given how easy it has became to filter out illegal content automatically.

This is wrong on so many levels. The picture doesn't have to be illegal for Instagram to want to ensure you account wasn't taken over. An old account, suddenly posting pictures, even legal ones, might be someone trying to scam someone.

Just so much wrong with this comment.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by comboy on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:53AM (#36447630)
Then please explain my wrongness levels. Apart from data grab, what is the issue? Could company be accountable if somebody logged in with correct username and password and posted legal pictures? Because if it doesn't matter if it's bank or not, my bank clearly states that it is not accountable in such scenario.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by smcl on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:00AM (#36444805)
Wait so if you have a "backup" card in case of emergency, the chances are it'll fail anyway? I kinda hate this stuff where we have to guess at how some company's internal mystery processes work to actually use their service :-/
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by phpisthebest on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:44AM (#36445100)
I have this problem all the time with the HSA card (or did until i changed providers)

I would rarely use it, but then I would try to pay for something with it and it would be declined, when I called they always said it was "suspended due to inactivity"

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by JKCalhoun on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:20AM (#36445830)
So Yogi Berra works in the security department, not letting you use your card because you never use your card. I love the self-reinforcing nature of it.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by danaris on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:13AM (#36446391)
That's particularly egregious—what percentage of people with an HSA or similar is likely to be spending money from it more than once every few months??
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by MereInterest on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:25AM (#36446521)
If you have a periodic prescription, then that may require the HSA every time you pick up the prescription.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by bombcar on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:48AM (#36446114)
Yes, if you want to have a "backup" card make sure you use it somewhat regularly.

So for example, a backup card you use for gas only, or a store-branded Mastercard that you only usually use at that store.

You still run the risk of a block, but it's reduced.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by pasc1878 on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:10AM (#36446359)
Yes but it is not hard to get it back - you have to contact the bank

In emergency you need to contact your bank.

I have had my card declined several times Once on travel to USA - I probably should have told them before - in this case I had to phone them an international call and it was immediately reinstated. They also denied a payment when it was in a place accross the country from my normal use, which wa good as it was not me trying to use it.

Basically if your spending is abnormal - e.g. in a different place or for a large amount then you might have to confirm the payment. The benefit is the bank is able to stop more fraud.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Semaphor on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:23AM (#36444955)
> the bank will similarly ask you to verify your identity

I doubt that. The bank will either cancel my account long before that, or it will work.

> Hijacking unused accounts is common enough

Ah, yes, for all my 20 or 30 followers, can’t have them see a single image, and of course, the hijackers also hijack the computer those accounts are from, so the IP belongs to the same entity it always did.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by unreal37 on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:21AM (#36445839)
Credit card companies run sophisticated anti-fraud operations in real time. Visa "analyzes more than 500 unique risk attributes" the moment you attempt to make a purchase with a card.

They make decisions in milliseconds on each purchase to determine whether it might be fraud. This includes looking at past purchase history to see if this transaction is unusual.[1]

[1] https://usa.visa.com/visa-everywhere/security/outsmarting-fr...

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by CyberDildonics on Friday June 23, 2023 @11:00AM (#36447757)
This looks like you copy and pasted an ad from somewhere. Anyone who has used a credit card for a while knows their 'anti fraud' is not very sophisticated and anyone who has used a computer should know that whatever they do happens 'in milliseconds'.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by junon on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:13AM (#36445778)
There's a difference between a bank's threat model and a social media company's.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by dcormier on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:09AM (#36445273)
Several years ago I created an account there and it was banned before I even logged in. I appealed but never heard anything. I never figured out why was it was banned. I couldn’t find anything offensive in the name. At least, not in English (the only language I know).
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by throwaway2990 on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:18AM (#36445329)
I signed up on Instagram just after Facebook bought it. Before the accounts merged.

Never posted anything. Never liked anything. Never commented. 5 years later I go to login. Account is banned.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by throwaway290 on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:34AM (#36445983)
Did you use any tags in your post? And which tags if you did? Keep in mind that other users can report. If your bag appears in my timeline by misusing a tag I'm subscribed to it's an insta-report because man you can't imagine how many spammers there are pushing dropshipped goods from China.

And even if no one reported you if you don't have 2fa etc I'd say it's reasonable for FB to assume your account was sold, hacked or swapped.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Semaphor on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:43AM (#36446067)
Not sure about IG, but my FB account has a yubikey.

The only tag was the brand of the bag

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by throwaway290 on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:53AM (#36446159)
I see, if IG is linked to FB login then I guess that's bad and/or broken on their part. Because it implies you log in via FB login I suppose? (I don't connect my account)
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Semaphor on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:04AM (#36446285)
> Because it implies you log in via FB login I suppose? (I don't connect my account)

I have no idea, and I can’t check any more :D

I have not had to login since I last reinstalled my computer last year, the session simply continued.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:24AM (#36444576)
Or maybe don't rely on their services, use a kind of money that doesn't close accounts. Like cash, or something that must not be named on HN.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by midasuni on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:31AM (#36444620)
Because that’s not how society works
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Etrnl_President on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:45AM (#36444711)
Worked for thousands of years, but perhaps now it is time to rely on the people bribed by big corporations?
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by ben_w on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:05AM (#36444841)
For most of those thousands of years, money was a precious metal (although not always the same one).

We moved away from it because of all the things that go wrong with that, and then the internet happened and we want digital money.

"Digital money" in the broadest sense is how it all works today, even with the coins and notes that are common here in Berlin. "Trust-less" money — without anyone who can undo transactions — is an illusion, as it necessitates the users trust their counterparty as court-ordered refunds can't be guaranteed. But too many entities who can undo transactions has a similar effect, and there's a benefit to scale, so you naturally end up with a small number of Visa/MasterCard/PayPal types who have motive, means, and opportunity to bribe/regulatory-capture governments.

One of the reasons I was originally curious about BTC, before it gave me "scam!" vibes, was the possible it might be a new path that might avoid some of this; but I no longer have that impression.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by swiftcoder on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:01AM (#36444812)
It's not even all that legal in a lot of places. For example, it's not legal to make a cash transaction over 1,000 euros in Spain - they locked it down to try and catch folks who tax evade by running all-cash businesses.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by staunton on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:02AM (#36444822)
I fully expect buying most things with cash will be impossible or at least very cumbersome pretty soon
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by cheekibreeki2 on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:21AM (#36444941)
Cash doesn't work you heard em ;)
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by iso1631 on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:47AM (#36445121)
Participating in society requires you to use the tools that 90% of people use. In the past you could live by being paid in cash, buying things locally, etc.

You still had issues, if the local butcher decided to ban you then you were going to be vegetarian. If the church said you were awful (perhaps in retaliation to you seeing the priest doing something) then you'd basically have to move, you could no longer participate in society.

Society has reconfigured itself away from that. The problem now is you can't even move. If a couple of big corporations ban you, you're screwed. You will struggle to sell your services when 95% of people want to buy your products on amazon and pay by credit card.

The solution here is to have due process and appeals. The impact of amazon or whatsapp blocking you is far more on you than on them, just like the butcher banning you in the past. There's just less comeback, you can't even talk to a person on the phone, let alone face to face. You can't appeal to the rest of the village (well you can, people post on HN or Twitter and get bans overturned, but that's a minority workflow and is far less successful than in the past)

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by RobotToaster on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:52AM (#36445589)
Yeah sure, just give me a loan of a few billion dollars to start my own bank.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by impulser_ on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:33AM (#36444633)
Outside of Healthcare, the Financial industry is the most regulated industry in the US. Regulatory compliance is often why payment companies and other financial companies are often trigger happy. It's risk management.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by croes on Friday June 23, 2023 @05:39AM (#36444673)
Yeah sure, that's why Lehmann Brothers happened and private accounts are the high risk accounts.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by staunton on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:00AM (#36444806)
Not that kind of risk...
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by arethuza on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:01AM (#36444810)
"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Of the gods we believe, and of men we know, that by a necessary law of their nature they rule wherever they can."

Thucydides , ~5th century BC

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by DubiousPusher on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:30AM (#36445946)
In the absence of law, there is only power.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by marssaxman on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:58AM (#36446222)
Same is true in the presence of law; there's just more bureaucracy.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by mindslight on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:50AM (#36447590)
More to the point: what constitutes power is different.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by DubiousPusher on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:55PM (#36449443)
This is a good point. I should have said, in the absence of law, there is only power through individual domination and vassalage. Law does not guarantee a more equitable distribution of power but it can allow for it.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by DubiousPusher on Friday June 23, 2023 @12:49PM (#36449375)
I disagree. Law (not in a vacuum but as practiced) can distribute power and thus unseat the power of strength alone. In many places throughout history, a strong person could hit whomever they wanted excepting the rich and aristocratic. A man could in this way dominate his family and neighbors. The only recourse was honor killing and revenge.

Today, in many places, even minor assault will result in consequences. In this way, the law redistributes power from the physically strong to those who may be weak but who have legal standing.

Of course, in an absolute sense, everything redounds to power. All law is in the end, enforced at the point of a gun. But this is an observation with very little practical utility IMO. It's like the saying which people employ when things are not going well, "it could be worse".

To be clear, I'm am here making a case for law as an insurance against indivual domination and warlordism which I think it can be. I am not making a case for the state in general though.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by marssaxman on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:51PM (#36454671)
Well, that is a fair point; conflating law and state was an ironic mistake for this anarchist to make.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by B1FF_PSUVM on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:34AM (#36447337)
The Melian Dialogue. That, by the way, was democratic Athens laying down the law to the Melos islanders who wanted to be neutral in the Peloponnesian war.

The Athenians then proceeded to kill the adult males and sell the remaining population into slavery. The island was repeopled by Athens, and later produced the Venus of Milo.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by rvba on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:29AM (#36444997)
The worst are banks and payment processors who sttaight out censor legal businesses.

If porn/weed/crypto or other stuff is legal, then the bank should not be moral police and close their account. Banks are not police, or judicary system and one cannot run a company without a bank account.

If they explain this with risk, then there should be some special state run bank that handles higher risk customers - and for example freezes money for some time to check everything. But at least does not close the account

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by bell-cot on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:59AM (#36445210)
> If they explain this with risk, then there should be some special state run bank...

Reasonable...but could you describe the elected politicians who will vote to establish that special state-run bank, and keep it going?

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by pasc1878 on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:15AM (#36446411)
The risk here is that someone against porn etc will 9and have) sued them for helping bad activities. TYhe cost is too high for the credit card companies.

In this case the pressure on a government payment system would be even higher as no politician could afford to support something helping porn.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by commandlinefan on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:16AM (#36446412)
> banks and payment processors

OTOH, I doubt the banks themselves are doing it for personal moral reasons, rather because of outside pressure. They're doing it out of fear of the power that picketers have over their actual livelihood.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by brandonmenc on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:41AM (#36447449)
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Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by world-set-free on Friday June 23, 2023 @06:32AM (#36445008)
You'll have to outbid the payments the tech companies have on the senators they own. You need more money than Vangaurd and Blackrock's A.L.A.D.D.I.N
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by plagiarist on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:45AM (#36445540)
Those bribes are depressingly low amounts. Just fly a SCOTUS out for a fun quarter-million vacation and their next completely original interpretation of the Constitution will be in your favor.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by world-set-free on Friday June 23, 2023 @01:21PM (#36449759)
The Navajo lost their water rights this week to a 5:4 supreme court decision over turning a lower court. I wonder who paid for that. How much does it cost to over turn a century old treaty?
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by plagiarist on Friday June 23, 2023 @03:28PM (#36451186)
It's actually weird that the US government would honor a treaty for that long, that must be a record.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by mihaaly on Friday June 23, 2023 @07:26AM (#36445382)
I sense that some of this trigger happy approach is coming from other consumer protection laws triggered by the society (through popularity hungry polititians) demanding action from someone and anyone when one or some adverse parties use technology and services with harmful intent.

Not all of course, companies with too much power act hostile just for the sake of it (means random management bullshit from power obsessed or just ambitious member of it).

So I am not too sure if even more and more consumer protection laws for for particular situations will solve this instead of making it worse.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by JKCalhoun on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:24AM (#36445869)
Apart from just hoping the companies come around, what do you suggest then? Or are we perhaps just screwed and have to walk on eggshells when we are on the internet?
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by mihaaly on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:39AM (#36446694)
We should not expect that some mistical fater figure or "they" will solve everything for us. Yes, we need to use the internet as there were hostile elements out there and without blind trust and blind fury that someone is not acting on our behalf all the time.

Some regulation is necessary for most serious or common matters but regulations are not a magic wand that will solve all of our problems without effort from the individual!

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by JKCalhoun on Saturday June 24, 2023 @11:21AM (#36459441)
I always think of "they" as "us" — the society we make create to serve our collective interests. And that is exactly what it exists for, why we create it‚ because it is required to change the things we as individuals are incapable of addressing.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Eisenstein on Friday June 23, 2023 @08:33AM (#36445970)
Ah yes, the old 'companies are screwing us but it is regulation that is the real problem' argument that seems to disregard everything that reality and history presents.

Hint: if you have no evidence of something but believe it because of an underlying philosophy, you should figure out how true it is before arguing its case.

Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by mihaaly on Friday June 23, 2023 @09:32AM (#36446620)
Probably should not diregard the history of harmful regulations while doing so?...
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by Eisenstein on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:17AM (#36447125)
Please take everything into account.
Re:Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout ... by salawat on Friday June 23, 2023 @10:57PM (#36455022)
...except that's the system working as designed?

It's a strategic goal of the United States to be able to drop individuals out of the economy.

https://ofac.treasury.gov/

Don't let the foreign part cloud the picture. You cheese off someone bad enough, we have the mechanism to put an entry in place that echoes out to every lawfully operating money transferer, and suddenly, you don't have money anymore.

Every money transmitter's legal department has a full time department that just day in and day out handles law enforcement or government requests.

Other governments I assume enforce their own versions. Using "The Royal No One", here; but no one wants a world of unrestrictable interaction at a distance. In any form.