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Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by achow on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:21AM (#34865176)
> a visitor accidentally kicked its podium

In the opening crowded social event how can the sculpture be placed unsecured on a glass table - also, the sculpture had rounded smooth glossy point of contact (dog's legs).

The podium: https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_727,c_fit/http%3A...

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:30AM (#34865235)
People should be careful, but yeah, the plinth was clear! Pretty hard to see. Especially to have situational awareness for where your foot might be going wrt to a clear thing, in a crowded social space where you're looking about. Probably it's just an accident, as galleries are experienced with displaying expensive works. But they probably should have had a larger perimeter, or the plint had a non-clear base.

> she gave unintentionally a little kick in the pedestal, which was enough to cause the sculpture to fall down.

I'm wondering, was she walking past? Or you know some women when they laugh, or angry, they involuntarily kick their feet. Cute, but kind of tragic if it was that. She must feel terrible.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by GavinMcG on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:47AM (#34865328)
> some women when they laugh, or angry, they involuntarily kick their feet. Cute, but…

This is absurd, and sexist, and though I don’t think you meant harm by it you might reconsider your model of how biological sex corresponds with voluntary control of one’s muscles.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by s1artibartfast on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:37AM (#34865618)
What is so absurd, sexist, or harmful here?

Parent poster knows some women who kick their feet.

Are you calling them a liar? Who is hurt by the idea that some women somewhere have tick?

Are we now getting offended by any observations whatsoever, even if they aren't generalized to all women, or even negative?

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by GolfPopper on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:47AM (#34865674)
I know somes posters on hacker news are both malicious and misleading.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:22AM (#34865521)
It's not absurd, or sexist. It's just a fact. If you pretend that you can't make any generalizations or statements because of one's gender...or you even pretend that's negative. Then you're the one being sexist. It's just crazy this kind of over protected speech. You're totally reading the wrong thing into it. Haven't you ever observed this?
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by morsch on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:43AM (#34865652)
Nope. Couldn't find anything via Google, either. I thought you were making a Seinfeld joke, at first ("The Little Kicks"), but apparently not.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:39AM (#35006544)
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Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by GavinMcG on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:03AM (#34865760)
Never once. At best you're describing children, in my experience, not adult women.

But especially if it is an involuntary expression of anger, as you say, then advancing the sexist "You're Cute When You're Angry" trope[0] is not a great reaction.

[0] https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YoureCuteWhenYou...

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Friday March 03, 2023 @01:36AM (#35006526)
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Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by EamonnMR on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:27AM (#34865217)
Oh wow, that would be really easy to accidentally bump into. It's below eye level, invisible... yikes.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by joe_the_user on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:46AM (#34865316)
The bad thing is whoever kicked the podium must feel terrible.

Why did they put no effort into protecting this piece? Perhaps because they could easily make another one if it came to it. I mean, it's just a ceramic duplicate of an ordinary balloon dog, of which a million or so are made at children's birthday parties.

Note, Koons himself produces work at scale in what he calls a factory and which is ... a factory.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by retSava on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:55AM (#34865368)

    A total of 799 editions of the sculpture were made. 
Ie not a total loss for humanity.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by ec2y on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:22AM (#34865527)
That’s .004%* of an increase in value for the rest of them.

*Completely made up number as I’m not an art valuer, but the point stands.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by kristjansson on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:41AM (#34865645)
Clearly the route to infinite value is destroying all of them
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by ajdude on Monday February 20, 2023 @08:32AM (#34867887)
There can only be one.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by ASalazarMX on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:23PM (#34870330)
Now I understand better that New Yorker cartoon: “Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.”

https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by sockaddr on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:10AM (#34865799)
Then I give 1/799th of a shit about this.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by xeyownt on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:58AM (#34866065)
Assuming it's totally useless, making 799 of these pricey thingies is certainly a waste.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by BrandoElFollito on Monday February 20, 2023 @03:28AM (#34866221)
> The bad thing is whoever kicked the podium must feel terrible

When my children were small, they were terrified to break things in supermarkets. I told them that it is always the supermarket fault when something is not fixed properly.

Of course this is for accidental damage.

That whoever should sue the show for anxiousness /s

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by rolenthedeep on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:09AM (#34865453)
Yikes, that's just begging to get knocked over
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by woleium on Monday February 20, 2023 @07:12PM (#34874714)
Could it generate some great publicity and cost nothing?
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by cma on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:10AM (#34865459)
Also, assuming it is LA, what about earthquakes? Several other sculptures on podiums there...
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by mpnagle on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:40AM (#34865642)
Think the exhibit was in Miami.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by lsllc on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:57AM (#34865724)
Hurricanes then!
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by kcplate on Monday February 20, 2023 @07:40AM (#34867541)
In February?
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by cma on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:01PM (#34870044)
Opps, saw Bel Air but that is just the gallery name.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by iamtedd on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:00AM (#34865738)
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by woleium on Monday February 20, 2023 @07:11PM (#34874703)
This is why a substance called "museum wax" was invented.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by beaned on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:24AM (#34865197)
Fix it with Kintsugi [0] and sell it as a 1 of 1 for a higher price.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kintsugi

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:30AM (#34865239)
Yeah I was thinking it's probably the idea behind:

> Bel-Air Fine Arts added that some collectors have offered to purchase the broken pieces.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by iamtedd on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:02AM (#34865750)
In the article, someone wanted to buy the pieces as-is for $15M..

Why waste time and gold?

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @05:08AM (#34866767)
For more gold later on? Or the status now. Art is an investment… and I guess Some people have enough gold, but they enjoy other stuff.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by mcraiha on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:48AM (#34865330)
Someone already tried to buy the pieces. "In his post, Gamson said he unsuccessfully tried to purchase what remained of the sculpture. "
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by babyshake on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:03AM (#34865755)
What are the odds that the shattered sculpture is displayed and sold as its own distinct piece of art?
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by anigbrowl on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:56AM (#34865372)
One other media outlet had fun with this story, labeling it as 'breaking news.' It's not really interesting otherwise.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by retSava on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:57AM (#34865383)
Similarly as when an individual takes down an unproportionally large part of a process (eg factory worker taking down the entire production line), this is the fault of the gallery that failed to secure the piece properly. Since about 800 of this dog is made, the cynically minded could think this was intentional for some publicity. It was insured, there are people wanting to buy the pieces, etc.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by thunderbong on Monday February 20, 2023 @12:58AM (#34865391)
From the article -

> "This kind of thing unfortunately happens, that is why the artwork was covered by insurance"

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by legohead on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:06AM (#34865434)
Odd, the article so confidently says it's an accident over and over, but other reports [1] [2] say she touched it on purpose.

Is the owner of the gallery district manager here simply lying for insurance purposes?

[1] https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/oops-woman-accidentally-br...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/18/arts/jeff-koons-sculpture...

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by anaxag0ras on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:20AM (#34865508)
> broke a $42,000 porcelain sculpture by artist Jeff Koons Thursday.

> Herald that Gamson offered to buy the balloon dog’s remains for $15 million on the spot.

Wait, so the broken sculpture is now worth more than before? How does this even make sense.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by swatcoder on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:29AM (#34865563)
It just went from a one nonspecific sculpture in a run of 799, to an absolutely unique item from that set with a specific historical lineage. The other 798 are no different than each other, but this is the only one among them that had this happen to it. So now it's priced more like his other singular works.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by Dalewyn on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:30AM (#34865573)
Depending on who you ask, those broken fragments are a one-of-a-kind.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by Gibbon1 on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:33AM (#34865594)
Five quatloos for the tail.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by number6 on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:22AM (#34865523)
Money laundering
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by jefozabuss on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:39AM (#34865636)
If they offered the same or double the price I would be still raising my eyebrows a bit but 15M lmao, how blatant is that.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by amarant on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:02AM (#34865751)
Wow, the art world has literally become a Donald Duck cartoon!

I remember when I was a kid one of my favourite Donald Duck installations was one where Donald accidentally breaks an antique and invaluable vase, and some art people goes crazy for the shards, and so Donald launches a new career as an artist where people bring their Ming dynasty vases to him, and he goes to town on them with power tools.

I don't recall quite how it ends, but I think the trend passes and he's left with a bunch of worthless shards. I think Scrooge was angry for some reason as well...

I liked it at the time because it was such an absurd concept. Guess it wasn't nearly as absurd as I thought!

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by iJohnDoe on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:16AM (#34865484)
Not the visitor’s fault. It’s the gallery’s fault for displaying an expensive work of art in such a way that it can easily be damaged accidentally or purposefully.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @05:09AM (#34866769)
Well it’s their fault if it’s purposeful…
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by a_bonobo on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:18AM (#34865494)
I'm actually surprised at the value of this piece seeing that it's fairly famous. Just $42,000, is that a typo?!
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by culturestate on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:26AM (#34865547)
> Just $42,000, is that a typo?!

Nope. He's made a bunch of different balloon animals, and this particular dog was an edition of a few hundred. You can buy one on Artsy right now if you've got some spare cash lying around: https://www.artsy.net/artwork/jeff-koons-balloon-dog-blue-po...

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:20AM (#34865507)
I guess it's tiny and there are 700 something of them made.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by jnsaff2 on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:20AM (#34865505)
They should NFT the shit out of it. Oh wait, that was last year.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by ghostly_s on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:22AM (#34865520)
Just one mis-print from the Koons money printer; the world will go on.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by wirrbel on Monday February 20, 2023 @01:23AM (#34865528)
I was one in a Jeff Koond exhibit and I must say i don’t get his art.

And I am not opposed contemporary art in general

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by graderjs on Monday February 20, 2023 @05:06AM (#34866759)
I love Jeff Koons. I saw a massive show of his at MCA SYDNEY in the late 90s or early 2-thousands. Giant flower puppies and more. I really love his stuff. Makes Some of Takeshi Murakami’s sculptures look derivative.
Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by TacoSteemers on Monday February 20, 2023 @02:09AM (#34865794)
Perhaps people should kept at a distance. It happened before with a ball of his:

https://hyperallergic.com/436913/jeff-koons-gazing-ball-dest...

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by Brian_K_White on Monday February 20, 2023 @03:42AM (#34866302)
Sounds like the gallery is 100% responsible and negligent for putting it on such a precarious setting.

If a little foot tap at the base of the stand could do that, and they allowed feet to be near the base of the stand, then it could hardly have been worse if they just left it out front on the sidewalk.

Ah, other comments are illuminating. The thing was mass produced and of little value despite the price tag.

So now the worst job being done is not the gallery for failing to protect something of little value, but Zoe Sottie or CNN for publishing a non-story.

Re:Visitor accidentally shatters Jeff Koons 'balloon dog' sc... by kristjansson on Tuesday February 21, 2023 @02:09AM (#34877749)
The speed at which this is doing the rounds (over a 1/799 piece!) feels like PR for the rest of the run.