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Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by asutekku on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:39AM (#24351855)
Honestly, I’m kind of surprised more people do not use the favorite feature to bookmark interesting links / posts. 96 favorites on the most favorited seems really low.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by dang on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:35PM (#24355626)
Those numbers are so low because the user list was truncated, and then restricted only to 30 per user.

The globally most-favorited is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19087418 ("Ask HN: What books changed the way you think about almost everything?") with 836 faves. You can see the global top 50 here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24355617

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by tidenly on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:40AM (#24351864)
I honestly never even noticed it was a feature until you just mentioned it here.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by bovermyer on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:06AM (#24352804)
I'm in the same boat. Even knowing it's there now, I have to look hard for it; there's no visual anchor to draw my eye there.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by dhimes on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:20AM (#24352914)
I've seen it there for years but have no idea what it does. I don't really care-I bookmark things I like.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by have_faith on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:46AM (#24351905)
Ditto, I didn't ever notice it and I've been on here for years.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by LandR on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:00AM (#24351981)
If you click on the time bit '14 minutes ago' in a users comment you go to a page where you can favourite individual comments too.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by JackFr on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:43AM (#24353121)
Whoa!
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by gambiting on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:57AM (#24351959)
I'm on 10k+ karma and I literally didn't know it existed.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by CydeWeys on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:26AM (#24352964)
20k+ karma here and same. I haven't favorited so much as a single article. Didn't realize it was an option.

So the top favorited list is probably biased in some way towards the type of people more likely to discover and use this feature. I just don't know exactly what that entails.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:16AM (#24353480)
I've noticed these and that's probably only because I trained myself to look carefully at stuff (that was a lot of work too). Small, light grey font on a beige background, well, what did HN expect.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by CydeWeys on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:26AM (#24353593)
Yeah, that's a separate but related issue: HN's UI is too low contrast to the point of posing an accessibility issue. It kind of tells you everything you need to know about YCombinator (and maybe SV VC in general) that its biggest watering hole doesn't make even this basic concession towards accessibility.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:35AM (#24353681)
I agree but HN does work rather well without JS enabled, so credit where credit's due.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by refresher on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:13AM (#24352072)
I use it pretty often. There are stories, show HN apps, or just random coding things that I feel I may want to have access to in the future, but are in a domain don't have enough of an interest in to bookmark. I guess if I had a generic "misc." bookmark folder that I didn't care to organize it would go here but I like keeping browser bookmarks minimal.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by giancarlostoro on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:53AM (#24352322)
One thing I wish were possible is to search through upvoted content and favorited content by title and even comments in either. I have upvoted so much stuff a lot of it becomes harder to find if I cant narrow it down by what is relevant to me. Its the one killer feature HN is missing for me. Outside of that one thing I think HN is perfect thus far.

Mostly the favorites feature is used by me when I cant upvote something since thats what HN defaults to. I would use it more often if I could filter by my own saved content.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:46PM (#24356411)
Oh, sorry, I didn't read / comprehend your comment properly earlier.

Firstly, try contacting [email protected] detailing what you'd like to build and see if they're interested / able to collaborate or provide you the necessary access / APIs.

I'm not a programmer by any stretch of the imagination, but have contacted the mods from time to time and found them eminently approachable.

Secondly, if you can't see the up or down vote buttons, try clicking on a comment or submissions time stamp immediately after the username. For reasons I don't know sometimes the vote buttons aren't displayed in the regular view.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by giancarlostoro on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @04:06PM (#24357440)
No worries! I was just clarifying, I know sometimes I don't express myself as transparently as I'd hope. I might have to follow up on that suggestion, I didn't even think about that, I've wanted this feature for so long!
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:04AM (#24352392)
Unless I'm mistaken, HN exposes that data so anyone can build those features as either a browser add-on or as a separate site built on the data?

One of the things I super appreciate about HN is the (almost) complete abcense of feature creep.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by giancarlostoro on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:16AM (#24352465)
I don't think I've ever seen this on any third party search tools for HN. If it's an actual feature it is highly under documented. The filtering that HN does is on all comments / stories (by post title) but you don't get to filter down by what a user has upvoted since that data is private to the user, only favorited data is public.

I don't think this is a feature creep, I think it's useful. Otherwise I'm going to have to code something to scrape through HN for me and provide that additional context, and even then I still would be missing a way to filter down on HN comment data vs my own local db of upvoted materials.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by gabrielsroka on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:21AM (#24353535)
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by bad_user on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:06AM (#24352014)
That's because I already have bookmarks in my browser, marking articles as favorite on HN would give me no value.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by ekianjo on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:42AM (#24352253)
HN Comments is where the money is, not the stories themselves.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by bad_user on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:18AM (#24352899)
Comments have links that can be bookmarked too, under that timestamp, here's yours:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24352253

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by ekianjo on Friday September 04, 2020 @09:07PM (#24380573)
I usually favorite a whole story so that I have access to all comments, not just one.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by grugagag on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:33AM (#24353031)
I didn't know that comments can be bookmarked, that's a very unusual and neat feature
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by remram on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:53AM (#24353847)
Unusual? Reddit and Twitter have it, GitHub/GitLab have anchors too, which platform lacks comment links?
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by ansible on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:18AM (#24354065)
I switch computers frequently (desktop, chromebook, laptop, phone, etc.) so having some kind of centralized 'favorites' is nice. I've not used the bookmark sync with Firefox or such.

I've noticed that I rarely go back and look at my favorites though.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by amelius on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:10AM (#24352048)
I download the articles, so I can even read them in the event they are taken offline.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by zimpenfish on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:16AM (#24352101)
I use Pocket which then gets IFTTT'd to Pinboard which archives them for me.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by qntmfred on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:46AM (#24351904)
Better imo to use a bookmarking service that works across the entire web. I used to save facebook links and bookmark tweets too because the features were in those platforms, but eventually I just started using Pocket like I use for everything else on the web.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by kodablah on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:06AM (#24352011)
Because "stories" (i.e. top-level posts) are easily searched and retrieved. Individual comments however might have more value being favorited, and while the numbers are likely similarly low, they would make for a better blog post.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by JackFr on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:42AM (#24353119)
On the site since 2012. Never noticed favorite until right now. Was surprised to see I had 3 favorites saved already which all must have been inadvertent clicks.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by adwww on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:55AM (#24352332)
Seems pretty silly that you can only favourite the comments view - if you click directly into the article from HN homepage you never see the favourite link at all.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by raxxorrax on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:31AM (#24352191)
I don't use it and use bookmarks instead, but if you just look for points https://hn.algolia.com/ works pretty well.

Spoiler: Steven Hawking has died.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by ponker on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:01AM (#24351990)
Why would I let my bookmarks get trapped inside the site owner’s database?
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by fluffything on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:43AM (#24351884)
I use the mobile app and its horrible. I can't often save comments, i can't see my comment threads, ...

There are probably many HN features nobody knows about because the UI doesn't expose them.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by asutekku on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:44AM (#24351894)
Why are you not using the website? It works really well on mobile and loads almost instantly. I’ve never seen a reason to use app for HN.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by cgriswald on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:19AM (#24352127)
I only ever use private browsing and don’t want to have to log in every time I want to upvote someone.

The content is saved unless I explicitly reload or navigate away from the content. So I can close the app and come back to exactly where I was rather than the browser that will not save that state and then try to reload even if I don’t have an internet connection.

Navigation is easier in the app, because every action is clicking anywhere on the post and selecting an action from a large pop up menu. Except for collapsing/expanding which is also easier because you click the post header not just a tiny dash.

Automatic dark/light mode.

Etc. Etc. The app I use isn’t perfect but it’s preferable for lots of reasons to visiting the site directly.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by ludocode on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @12:14PM (#24354638)
I also only use private browsing mode, but the login annoyance is not enough to make me use an app. Most apps in fact track like crazy (potentially even third-party apps for sites like HN), and the whole point of private browsing is to not be tracked.

Instead I just lurk most of the time since I'm too lazy to log in, which means I'm not really contributing with votes. Maybe what we need to do is reduce the friction in logging in. I've always turned off the browser's password saving features and use my own password manager; maybe I should reconsider that policy.

[edit] Nevermind, apparently Firefox can't remember passwords when in permanent private browsing mode. So much for that idea :/

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by NextHendrix on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:59AM (#24351970)
My only issue with the website is the little minimize "-" sign on comments is too small and difficult to reliably hit without zooming in. However as you say everything else works much more smoothly than any of the apps I've tried
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by pjc50 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:43AM (#24352643)
It works fine, but the font is teeny tiny.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by fsflover on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:51AM (#24352685)
I can reliably zoom in the text here on my Pinephone. No left/right scrolling is ever required.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by ffpip on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:22AM (#24352509)
Which on are you using? There are many.

I use this. It is very good imo -https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.hidr...

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by fluffything on Thursday September 03, 2020 @01:44PM (#24366569)
I'm using one called Hacker News (YC) from Dharmesh Patel. I thought that was the official app.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by dang on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:08PM (#24355982)
> "The mobile app"

Which mobile app do you mean? HN has no app. But there are many third-party ones.

This is actually leading to some unanticipated problems. I wrote about this yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24335289.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by yipbub on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:55AM (#24351948)
I use Materialistic. A HN app I found on Fdroid, and I'm very happy
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by LandR on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @06:58AM (#24351964)
Didnt know there was an app. THe website renders fine for me on mobile.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by wrsh07 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:24AM (#24353564)
A lot of people have pointed out alternatives, but the killer feature of eg bookmarks (or maybe pocket?) is the categorization.

I have bookmarks that I've planned to review in 3 months. I'll have bookmarks for a tool I plan to try out on a future side project

I don't really care about the "how" (I take notes for various things -- books, movies, apps -- all over the place). But bookmarks are convenient and allow for the simplest of categorization, which I value

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by theandrewbailey on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:37AM (#24352598)
Maybe people tend to favorite different things. I favorite things from time to time, but don't recall favoriting anything in this list.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by weinzierl on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:33AM (#24352208)
Not really surprised anymore because this has been discussed in the past but still perplexed why this is the case. I use the feature intensively and I find it useful. UX could be improved though, especially I'd like to be able to favorite a comment with a single click/tap, very much like voting up or down.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by Someone on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:44AM (#24352270)
You may use it intensively, but as far as I can tell, you have only 27 favorites at the moment (https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=weinzierl)

I guess there also are a lot more stories (over 24 million, it seems) than regular users. Even taking your 27 as the average per user, I would expect the average number of time an article gets favored to be significantly below 1.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by weinzierl on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:45AM (#24353765)
Indeed I do have hundreds of favorites, going back till 2012. What you are looking at are just my favorited stories, but I have a lot more favorite comments. Funnily your comment kind of supports my point that the UX could be improved;-)

Also a disclaimer for those looking at my favorites: I use this feature much like a bookmarking service and for me a favorite means an endorsement only in the sense that I found the contribution interesting and valuable enough to be remembered. I don't necessarily agree with what is said in the postings I favorite.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by Someone on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:58AM (#24353892)
Aha! Thanks. The UI can be improved, yes.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by KrishnaAnaril on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:09AM (#24353396)
Another hidden feature is 'top links'(https://news.ycombinator.com/best). It is not visible to me (may be because of low karma), but if I directly type it in the url it works.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by krapp on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:11AM (#24353420)
It's hidden behind "Lists" in the site footer along with some other pages.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by KrishnaAnaril on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:10AM (#24353995)
Thank You. I wasn't aware of that section.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by mindcrime on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:25AM (#24353574)
more people do not use the favorite feature to bookmark

Why would you, when upvoting achieves the same effect and is available with one less click? If you could "favorite" an itme from the front page then I expect the feature would get more use.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by raverbashing on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:18AM (#24352119)
On that note, if there's a feature that I would like to see implemented on HN is that favoriting an article shouldn't redirect to the favorites page, instead just working with AJAX (do people still use that term?)
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by harperlee on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @08:37AM (#24352604)
Wow. Abismal number. I dreamt a side project of using that info to estimate “taste distance” between users and see what personalized recommendations come out of it, but I dont think it would work with those numbers.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by jolmg on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @01:59PM (#24355881)
Besides being tied to your account, the only plus I see of HN bookmarks over browser bookmarks is that your HN bookmarks are shared with the public. Some people may want to keep their favorites private, though.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by remram on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:50AM (#24353822)
Why would I use this instead of my browser's bookmarks, which have tags, folders, and search, and are less likely to be discontinued by the product storing them?
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by recursive on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:59AM (#24353903)
For me, the answer is that my browser bookmarks are tied to a physical machine and specific browser. I use many machines, and sometimes many different browsers on each.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by m12k on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @09:54AM (#24353220)
I have another tool (Pocket) that I use for bookmarking interesting posts for later reading/reference that works independently of which site I happen to be on.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by lazyjones on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:29AM (#24352177)
It's lower than it could be since only the most recent 30 favourites of the top 10k members are included.

But still lower than expected.

Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by jagged-chisel on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @11:06AM (#24353961)
This is exactly my use case.
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by stephenitis on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @10:51AM (#24353828)
Yeah I never noticed it
Re:Most-favorited Hacker News posts by pwdisswordfish4 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @07:11AM (#24352049)
These days most people don’t use Internet Explorer.