Oh my goodness: triggered.
I've barred the use of Confluence at our company specifically because of this.
"But, but, we used it at blah company."
"Yes, so did I at blahblah company, and it was unbelievably crappy and made me angry every time I had to edit a document: we're not using it."
I DO NOT want to have to use what amounts to an extremely buggy, capricious, and neutered version of Microsoft Word 6 to edit the contents of a web page.
I will become extremely displeased with you if you waste my time by trying to persuade me it's a good idea. It's not.
If you're interested in having self-hosted service for that, just drop us an e-mail here [2].
[1]: https://github.com/kovetskiy/mark/ [2]: https://mark.reconquest.io/
For ticketing software, I find Clubhouse to be much better than JIRA. Normal markdown that doesn't drive you insane. Much slicker all around.
It's also very easy to self-host.
Whilst not an actual answer to your question, I thought it might be a good direction for you to look into.
Also, I've seen Redbooth (formerly Teambox) we'll recommended and since it's OSS it can be self hosted pretty easily.
Do you have any links to any cloud or other hosting company kicking out any mens rights sites?
Don’t say it doesn’t exist. And saying “All men are pigs” is apparently not a reason to pull support from the female equivalent. As much as “Women should be sentenced to smaller prison times than men” is apparently not a hindrance to staying head of the judges of UK’s Supreme Court.
So yeah, we need to avoid using cloud services.
In this UK it's probably "mankind", hosted on a microsoft owned IP, I assume azure.
> for profit
And
> Its editorial position is strongly antifeminist and frequently accuses feminists of being misandrist.
somewhat different to things like the white ribbon campaign that it tried to hijack. There's plenty of charities and organisations working to stop domestic abuse of men. This looks like something that would fit well with breitbart.
I wonder if in any feminist writing there are feminist who argue that victims should fight back against their attackers. How should that be interpret? Todays news in Sweden we had the first court day of the person who initiated the Swedish metoo movement. She posted a message on social media about a coworker who she said raped her. The prosecutor filed charged against her, arguing defamation as it caused emotional and economical damage to the named person. Technically this is correct and the expected result of the law suit is actually a guilty verdict for the accuser. It also mean that technically anyone who encouraged similar behavior, in the context of feminist writing, is guilty of inciting violence against men.
Swedish defamation law is also a bit different from UK/US laws in that the truthfulness is not a saving criteria. Causing someone harm through trial by media is illegal with only a few exceptions when dealing with major public figures. In the view of the legal system, harm is harm, and it is rarely justified.
All I really want is a system that lets me arrange my tasks into a DAG. B is a subtask of A. C and D are subtasks or B. E is a subtask of D. F is a subtask of A, but depends on D being complete. It's simple and matches how people think about work. Add a capability for estimation (for the love of $deity, in durations, not dates!), and you can pull a critical path diagram straight out of it.
Is it so hard to make software like this? Why nobody does? And how come that some project management packages (like JIRA, AFAIR) explicitly mention subtasks as non-features, because they're not "agile enough". The only piece of PM software I've seen that's even capable of what I want is YouTrack by JetBrains, but even there, the graph nature of tasks is only an afterthought; the product tries very hard to look like Jira, with all its bad features.
Perhaps a weekend project/"show HN" to gauge interest would be warranted.
If you ever get around working on this, or even demoing your DAG UI (I'm interested in UIs for DAGs for other reasons too), please shoot me an e-mail (address in my profile).
Subtasks with intelligent dependencies, durations, and maybe top level item prioritization... I'd give up my hand rolled Google sheets idea in a heartbeat.
I think it's some sort of weird cultural impedance mismatch where the teams have sort of moved over to Kanban or Scrum or whatever, but the managing structures haven't. I used to work somewhere where managers spent a regular big chunk of time manually reconstructing GANTT from Microsoft TFS Kanban boards...
Was there something you didn’t like about them?
I used https://liquidplanner.com/ for a bit, it was clunky and slow and expensive, but did get the job done for what I needed.
It's worse than literally every other wiki I've ever used; even worse than phpBB.
We also use Bitbucket at work, which is laughably unreliable.
There was. I was using Confluence at the time, and it broke a lot of things. There was a wonderful filed bug at the time with a lot of angry people on it, where they promised to bring the old mechanism back as an option, and they never did. That told me everything I needed to know about Atlassian.
I really regret going with Atlassian here; I would have advised against it if I knew about this. I will definitely advise against it in the future.
Menu Administration -> Settings -> General tab
There's a drop down for Text formatting which you can set to Markdown.
Open source core supporting WYSIWYG, Markdown, Code and more.
As I have been fiddling with ProseMirror I've found out that their editor is the most extensive PM-based editor out there.
It's quite annoying.
It's been my overwhelming experience that managers love the _idea_ of Jira, but then the day-to-day in the trenches experience of battling its workflow, its markup, its ... everything ... gets pushed down onto busy people, and even if enough engineers revolt, now you have a "well, we're already so committed to Jira we can't leave now" style reply (again, in my experience)
In both cases, I get that some users can't or don't like to use a machine grammar/markup, however simple. For some people markup is bad UX. Give them a WYSIWYG; that's fine.
But don't remove the markup editor if your WYSIWYG editor is anything but a perfect one-two-one replacement for markup (and I have never seen one that satisfies that).
IIRC there was a time when Confluence axed their markup, and inevitably a table or a template would get completely screwed, and there was nothing you could do but recreate it. TERRIBLE design.