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Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:23PM (#20414721)
So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive).

I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?

Also at that time, I remember asking the head DB guy about a specific metric, and he ran a live query against the database in front of me. It took a while to return, so he used the time to explain how, in an ordinary setup, the query would have locked all the tables and brought down the entire site, but he was using special SQL-fu to make it run transparently.

We got so engrossed in the details of this topic that half an hour passed before we noticed that everyone had stopped working and was running around in a frenzy. Someone finally ran over and asked him if he was doing a query, he hit Control-C, and Twitter came back up.

Re:Twitter was down by evanweaver on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:52PM (#20415707)
I worked there at the time and ending up running the software infrastructure teams that fixed all these problems. The beer wasn't a reward, it was because people were stressed and morale was low. Nobody brought the site down on purpose.

What really made me mad was when we hired consultants and the contract would end, usually without much success because Twitter's problems were not normal problems, and then they would send us a fancy gift basket with our own wasted money.

Maciej, we are still waiting for you to ship the executive dashboard.

Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:16PM (#20416404)
That dashboard supported something like a dozen people over its lifetime. One person would start writing it, then quit, and be replaced by another person who rewrote it in their preferred language, and then the cycle would repeat.

It was a VC-funded welfare program for slackers and I miss it greatly.

Re:Twitter was down by nevf1 on Friday July 12, 2019 @04:59AM (#20419298)
I lol'd at "welfare program for slackers" - That's the dream really... Find a chaotic workplace that lets you play with your favorite languages and no real tangible outcome.
Re:Twitter was down by tonystubblebine on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:54PM (#20415143)
To take the history of direct queries at Twitter even further back, I built a web interface at Odeo for the CEO to run direct queries against the database (and save them so he could re-run them). There were some basic security precautions, but this was totally cowboy.

That Odeo team was filled with best practices aficionados and the management (including me) was a bit cowardly about being clear that "WE ARE FAILING HARD AND FAST." Damn the practices.

So of course the engineering team freaked out, especially since the CEO managed to find lots of queries that did take the site down.

But I honestly credit that as one of the biggest things that I contributed to Twitter. Having easy SQL access let the CEO dig into the data for hours, ask any question he wanted, double check it, etc. He was able to really explore the bigger question, "Is Odeo working?"

The answer was no. And that's how he decided to fully staff Twitter (twttr then) as a side project, buy back the assets, and set Twitter up as it's own thing.

I think that it really was very close--if we'd moved any slower we would have run out of money before anyone was ready to commit to Twitter. Same story about Rails--without being able to do rapid prototyping we never would have convinced ourselves that Twitter was a thing.

Re:Twitter was down by nthj on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:02PM (#20415221)
Just a quick note not directed at OP but for any other engineers that may be unaware, these days AWS makes provisioning a read replica painless, and you can point the CEO to up-to-the-minute data while essentially firewalling the queries from customer operations.
Re:Twitter was down by mlevental on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:43PM (#20416570)
how?
Re:Twitter was down by teraflop on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:02PM (#20417012)
First Google result for "aws read replicas": https://aws.amazon.com/rds/details/read-replicas/

> Using the AWS Management Console, you can easily add read replicas to existing DB Instances. Use the "Create Read Replica" option corresponding to your DB Instance in the AWS Management Console.

Re:Twitter was down by NKCSS on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:12PM (#20415322)
Why not have it run against a replicated copy? I did that in the past, works amazingly, they can f* up all they want without any implications.
Re:Twitter was down by tonystubblebine on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:29PM (#20415489)
This was 2005. We had dedicated servers in our own cage. I can't remember if we already had replicas. It seems plausible. But actually spinning up a new one would have required more work and convincing than I wanted to do.
Re:Twitter was down by AgentME on Thursday July 11, 2019 @09:13PM (#20417318)
It's probably easy to do if you know it's an issue to begin with. I've run into this scenario before (running sql queries to read data that turned out to lock everything) and it caught me by surprise. Why would a read query cause the database to lock anything? I thought databases did stuff like multiversion concurrency control to make locks like that unnecessary.
Re:Twitter was down by joevandyk on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:20PM (#20417836)
Doing large queries on a Postgres standby had the potential to mess up the master, depending on configuration settings.
Re:Twitter was down by ziftface on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:22PM (#20417096)
Thanks for sharing. Out of curiosity, why was the answer no? Was the issue the downtime or something more subtle?
Re:Twitter was down by tonystubblebine on Thursday July 11, 2019 @08:38PM (#20417165)
I think in the end he lost faith over retention. We got a lot of traffic and new users but didn't keep any of it. He was already suspicious that iTunes was going to kill us and so the stats were the nail in that coffin. He was right. We were ten years too early to podcasting.
Re:Twitter was down by sbmthakur on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:46PM (#20415063)
This reminded me of something too!

I used to work(on backend) on a popular app(in my country) which had a good number of users. One day I was asked to work with some infra/sysadmin folks who wanted to fix some issues with the servers in our inventory. We happily updated kernels and even rebooted servers a few time. I came back to my team and saw them deeply engrossed into production logs. Turns out few of the servers that were "fixed" were actually production servers. I almost shouted the F word when I listed all IPs. This confusion happened because the server guys used data IPs and we used management IPs. This exposed serious miscommunication among our teams. But fun times indeed!

Re:Twitter was down by oneeyedpigeon on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:32PM (#20414848)
> It took a while to return, so he used the time to explain how, in an ordinary setup ...

This one was visible from such a great distance, it's a wonder neither of you spotted it as it happened! I love your post — reminds me of BOFH :)

Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:35PM (#20414888)
The guy had an amazing beard, with streaks of white in it! He looked like a great wizard to me. I remember even as we noticed people were frantic, saying to one another "oh man, another outage, thank goodness it's not us!"
Re:Twitter was down by emerongi on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:45PM (#20415049)
And now it's a full-blown sitcom scene
Re:Twitter was down by baud147258 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:55PM (#20415165)
A true BOFH would have either disposed of any witness or made them the culprit.
Re:Twitter was down by SllX on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:49PM (#20416202)
A true BOFH works with what he’s got, and when what he’s got is a fool willing to do all his work for him, then it’s time to implement Plan A: sit back and enjoy the fireworks.
Re:Twitter was down by ryandrake on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:43PM (#20415014)
> The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer

Never understood this mentality but have seen it at many companies. Rewarding someone or some team for heroically fixing something after a catastrophic failure. Talk about misaligned incentives! Reminds me of the Cobra Effect [1]. When you reward “fixing a bad thing” you will get more of the bad thing to be fixed.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

Re:Twitter was down by skybrian on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:53PM (#20415135)
Seems like maybe you want to reward fire fighters and also reward fire prevention?
Re:Twitter was down by micahgoulart on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:03PM (#20415238)
boy, do i have a podcast episode for you: https://casefilepodcast.com/case-98-the-pillow-pyro/
Re:Twitter was down by mzno on Friday July 12, 2019 @06:08PM (#20424957)
from a complete rando: thanks for posting this — will listen to it later today.
Re:Twitter was down by azhenley on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:39PM (#20414963)
This gives me hope that one day I will be able to run a startup. The big tech companies aren't too different than the rest of us after all...
Re:Twitter was down by kgraves on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:28PM (#20415477)
Agreed, the only thing that a showstopper for me is the money and talent, It is still a struggle to find talented people who want to work for a startup.
Re:Twitter was down by goobynight on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:29PM (#20416045)
Even harder to find ones that wish to remain working for a startup!
Re:Twitter was down by fzort on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:32PM (#20414851)
This is hilarious, thanks for sharing. I used to work at companies like this, except they weren't worth billions of dollars.
Re:Twitter was down by isostatic on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:43PM (#20415012)
Neither was twitter in 2008, it didn't reach $1b until the end of 2009
Re:Twitter was down by kreetx on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:56PM (#20415169)
The story is most probably not true. Love the taco tunnel though :)

Edit: apparently the stories actually are true.

Re:Twitter was down by busterarm on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:49PM (#20415091)
This is the same group of folks who wrote the infamous ranty blog shitting all over Rails back in...'11(?) when it was pretty clear that their workload wasn't suited to an RBDMS and ActiveRecord. They wrote their own message queue twice despite suggestions to use known tools before eventually giving up.
Re:Twitter was down by applecrazy on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:28PM (#20414790)
That’s hilarious. Reminds me of a clip from the show Silicon Valley.
Re:Twitter was down by ParadisoShlee on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:40PM (#20414972)
Is that beer story satire?
Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:42PM (#20415001)
No, it is true.
Re:Twitter was down by kreetx on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:51PM (#20415706)
Is it actually really true? The second part, too? I thought this can't be true and must be a (good) story just to amuse the readers - I guess I was wrong.
Re:Twitter was down by rco8786 on Friday July 12, 2019 @12:03PM (#20421687)
I worked there for a bit. Sometime around 2014 I dropped a production DB table (via a fat finger, shouldn’t have even been possible in hindsight). It wasn’t consumer facing but the internal effect made it look like all of Twitter was simultaneously down. Mass hysteria there for 20 min or so.
Re:Twitter was down by colpabar on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:39PM (#20414957)
Can someone explain the joke (about the beer) because I genuinely don't understand

edit: pretty please

Re:Twitter was down by baud147258 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:00PM (#20415207)
Each time the ops team brought Twitter back up, they receive good beer. So it would also mean that each time Twitter goes down, they could expect to receive the beer. Without idleword's actions, they would have an incentive (good beer) for having Twitter keep going down and not doing work to improve the stability.
Re:Twitter was down by arkades on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:14PM (#20415348)
Under the guise of preventing the ops team from being incentivized to create outages, he was selflessly stealing all the nice beer for himself.
Re:Twitter was down by ficklepickle on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:12PM (#20415309)
He took the beer because he wanted it. "Perverse incentives" are an excuse, because nobody is going to kill their production servers and all the panic that entails for like $10 worth of beer.
Re:Twitter was down by Zebfross on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:42PM (#20415006)
Sounds like the guy was bragging about his SQL skills to avoid locking the database but ended up locking the database anyway (thus, people running around)
Re:Twitter was down by treis on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:55PM (#20415159)
If the ops team got beer every time the servers went down (as a reward for fixing them) then they'd have an incentive for the servers to go down.
Re:Twitter was down by Jach on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:10PM (#20415296)
We all understand the perverse incentives joke, I think what's confusing people here is whether there's some other hidden joke they're missing that suggests not to take OP at his word that yes, he did make off with someone else's gift, which is generally considered a dick move.
Re:Twitter was down by slackfan on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:57PM (#20415189)
What the hell are all of you smoking, some moderately expensive alcohol is nowhere near enough reward to take down a service.
Re:Twitter was down by colpabar on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:02PM (#20415226)
If it was a sure thing that the ops engineers were doing that, then sure, it'd be kinda funny. Otherwise it just seems like a dick move.
Re:Twitter was down by wtallis on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:43PM (#20416569)
The alcohol was an incentive to bring the service back up quickly, but not an incentive to prevent it going down in the first place. Twitter was going down often enough on its own that nobody needed to be motivated to help it crash (except that bringing it back up sooner gives it another opportunity to crash again sooner).
Re:Twitter was down by eitland on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:17PM (#20415370)
Operant conditioning is a thing and it works.

While I and you would not do this I’m afraid that it would somehow find a way to work in this case too.

Re:Twitter was down by slackfan on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:37PM (#20415580)
Ops engineers don't get paid enough to fix dev fuck ups enough as it is. No amount of beer is going to fix that.
Re:Twitter was down by vokep on Thursday July 11, 2019 @07:51PM (#20416955)
He's taking home the special expensive beer and not telling them about it because he cares about the health and well being of his team so much, and yet they wouldn't even consider him a hero for this, how ungrateful they are!
Re:Twitter was down by wedn3sday on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:56PM (#20415181)
If everytime the site was brought back up (because it had gone down), and the ops guys got free fancy beer, then the message pretty quickly turns into, "if the site goes down, I get rewarded."
Re:Twitter was down by southerndrift on Saturday July 13, 2019 @07:14AM (#20427509)
In other words, that beer gave you the motive to bring twitter down, which you inevitably did by asking that question.
Re:Twitter was down by el_benhameen on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:34PM (#20415549)
The second story had me in tears. Especially given that I'm building a similarly scary query right now (thankfully not against live).
Re:Twitter was down by jfountain2015 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:21PM (#20415967)
Re:Twitter was down by dmix on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:26PM (#20414766)
Woo startups.
Re:Twitter was down by jayflux on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:40PM (#20414974)
> We got so engrossed in the details of this topic that half an hour passed before we noticed that everyone had stopped working and was running around in a frenzy. Someone finally ran over and asked him if he was doing a query, he hit Control-C, and Twitter came back up.

This would not be out of place as a scene in Silicon Valley

Re:Twitter was down by georgehotelling on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:51PM (#20415113)
idlewords, the user you're replying to, was listed as a consultant on the show
Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:58PM (#20415195)
For a later season. This was one of my favorite scenes on the show.
Re:Twitter was down by kevinlou on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:48PM (#20415675)
Completely unrelated, but I find myself reading your post about Argentinian steaks at least once a year. It's perfect. https://idlewords.com/2006/04/argentina_on_two_steaks_a_day....
Re:Twitter was down by klausa on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:52PM (#20416223)
No joke, this post was largely the reason I wanted to travel to Argentina.

The food lived up to the mental image I had after reading the post.

Re:Twitter was down by trystero on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:50PM (#20415697)
I just found and read that article yesterday. The writing is on another level.
Re:Twitter was down by GFischer on Thursday July 11, 2019 @05:44PM (#20416166)
As an Uruguayan, I loved it and found it entirely accurate :)
Re:Twitter was down by mrep on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:47PM (#20415081)
Not the best quality, but there is a scene just like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz7Niw29WlY
Re:Twitter was down by dubcanada on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:28PM (#20414788)
"I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?"

Wait so you stole rewards for a team that was spending time (I assume extra or stressful) on something you didn't do or have any part in. And you want a cookie?

I mean I get it, the company was probably not great in it's infancy. But what?

Re:Twitter was down by pgrote on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:30PM (#20414829)
I think OP is saying the rewards were confiscated so the team wouldn't begin breaking things on purpose to get a reward when they fixed it.
Re:Twitter was down by UncleMeat on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:34PM (#20414886)
Yeah but does anybody believe that the engineers would deliberately break things so they could have to work in a stressful environment bringing things back up just to get some free beer?
Re:Twitter was down by alexanderdmitri on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:52PM (#20415127)
If your incentives are aligned w/firefighting as opposed to fire prevention b/c management is not motivating and rewarding the extra work that goes into avoiding these scenarios in the first place, you're encouraging fire.
Re:Twitter was down by Jach on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:14PM (#20415340)
Indeed, the usual motivation to try and be called a hero for putting out the fire you started is much more valuable than free booze: a title promotion with a pay bump.
Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:29PM (#20414808)
I don't want a cookie; I want more $24/bottle Belgian beer.
Re:Twitter was down by JorgeGT on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:36PM (#20414908)
You should submit a request to the Pinboard CEO...
Re:Twitter was down by yyyk on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:42PM (#20414999)
Wouldn't that have made you the one with a "perverse incentive"?
Re:Twitter was down by C14L on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:04PM (#20415239)
That explains why he walked over to the DB guy and asked him to run an expensive query on the life system ;)
Re:Twitter was down by gnulinux on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:41PM (#20414988)
That's usually called stealing, or something a little softer than that. It's interesting that you shared that experience expected for us to laugh at it. The rest of the comment was hilarious and I'm happy you shared it, but that bit is very odd. I also see where you're coming from. But your act was ethically questionable.
Re:Twitter was down by sizzle on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:44PM (#20415028)
Just wanted to say that I enjoy reading your blog.
Re:Twitter was down by vorpalhex on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:32PM (#20414855)
It's a joke. Laugh, it's funny.
Re:Twitter was down by Dylan16807 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:46PM (#20416590)
It's one of those jokes where if the story isn't true then the entire basis for it being funny disappears. (And if it is true then the joke isn't good enough to make up for the actions.)
Re:Twitter was down by slackfan on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:52PM (#20415124)
Having worked on a lot of ops teams in unstable environments, it's just really dickish.
Re:Twitter was down by q3k on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:13PM (#20415335)
I also have. idlewords' post is one of the funniest things I've read this week.
Re:Twitter was down by nomadlogic on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:30PM (#20414827)
yea as an ops engineer that's probably the worst violation of trust i've ever heard of.
Re:Twitter was down by reaperducer on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:39PM (#20414952)
Wait so you stole rewards for a team that was spending time (I assume extra or stressful) on something you didn't do or have any part in.

The HR department in my company does this, and then redistributes the gifts to everyone in a random drawing at the Christmas party.

One year some department got a bunch of PlayStations, and a couple of them ended up in my department. The only thing my department contributed to the kitty was candy. I bet some people in that other department were disappointed.

Re:Twitter was down by CiPHPerCoder on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:30PM (#20414823)
Finally we get the long awaited sequel to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...

One flew over the dubcanada's head.

Re:Twitter was down by dubcanada on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:31PM (#20414832)
Wait what did I miss something? lol
Re:Twitter was down by CiPHPerCoder on Friday July 12, 2019 @01:19PM (#20422393)
The joke.
Re:Twitter was down by 100100010001 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:31PM (#20414835)
Hero? You’re a villain who steps on teammates. The worst part is you thought it’d be okay to share that and think we’d be on your side. Have you no shame?
Re:Twitter was down by idlewords on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:33PM (#20414861)
My job was to make growth graphs for investor slide decks, so by definition I had no shame.
Re:Twitter was down by DanFeldman on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:38PM (#20414950)
Or, if you had any shame, its growth would be up and to the right!
Re:Twitter was down by sandworm101 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:42PM (#20415002)
>> he hit Control-C, and Twitter came back up.

Monolithic architecture. When I did security work I fought this every day. Moving away from it is a nightmare of technical debt and heated debate about who should control what. I'm reminded of a story from the early days of MSN. The legend goes that in the late 90s MSN ran out of one cabinet, a single server. The server had redundant power supplies, but only one physical plug.

Re:Twitter was down by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:45PM (#20415044)
> Monolithic architecture.

This particular problem had nothing to do with a monolithic architecture. Your app can be a monolith, but that still doesn't mean your BI team can't have a separate data warehouse or at least separate read replicas to run queries against.

Re:Twitter was down by Dylan16807 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @06:50PM (#20416615)
It's not "nothing to do with". You're correct that a monolithic architecture does not imply that a single read query will lock the entire database. But it is a prerequisite.
Re:Twitter was down by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @07:21PM (#20416792)
Not really. I've seen more than one microservice-architected (admittedly, poorly) systems where, instead of the whole DB freezing up, just the one DB would freeze, but then all of the other microservices that talked to the frozen microservice didn't correctly handle the error responses, so now you had corruption strewn over multiple databases and services.

So, while true the failure mode would be different, "one bad query fucking up your entire system" is just as possible with microservices.

Re:Twitter was down by sho on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:49PM (#20415098)
And of course this is standard practise. I've contracted on largish apps before (rails! Shock!) and of course we provided read-only replicas for BI query purposes. I wouldn't have provided production access even if asked.

Anything else is simple incompetence and the macro-organisation of the code and/or services is irrelevant.

Re:Twitter was down by sandworm101 on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:56PM (#20415178)
If your website crashes because a single person ran a query, your system is too monolithic. You can have thousands of little microservices running all over the place, but a single query causing a fault proves that a vital system is running without redundancy or load sharing and that other systems cannot handle the situation. You have too many aspects of your service all tied together within a single system. It is too monolithic.
Re:Twitter was down by zbentley on Thursday July 11, 2019 @09:50PM (#20417454)
I think "monolithic" and "fragile" are orthogonal concepts.
Re:Twitter was down by Raphmedia on Thursday July 11, 2019 @03:59PM (#20415203)
> I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?

Wait, I don't understand.

Why would anyone call you hero?

Are you suggesting that the team would deliberately crash the app to receive beers and that by stealing them you stopped this from happening?

Free drinks and free food is the standard here to reward teams when they spend extra unpaid time away from their families.

All of the posts asking the same question are being down voted. Am I missing something?

You said you were a contractor at the time. Unless you were on the management team I fail to see how this was your responsibility to choose what happened.

Re:Twitter was down by LeoPanthera on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:06PM (#20415263)
> Am I missing something?

That it is a joke.

Re:Twitter was down by Raphmedia on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:54PM (#20415739)
The humor must be lost in translation then, I don't see anything resembling a joke.
Re:Twitter was down by teddyh on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:05PM (#20415250)
> Are you suggesting that the team would deliberately crash the app to receive beers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

Re:Twitter was down by Raphmedia on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:16PM (#20415359)
Yes, the cobra effect exists. Should this mean that everyone needs to stop all forms of positive reinforcement? I don't believe so.

I doubt anyone would risk a comfortable job at Twitter against a few bottles of beers. Even if they are really fancy, that's what... $20-50?

If this had been worded as a "Haha, I stole the bad team's beer" I would have laughed.

However, worded as "where is my reward for being smart and stopping the cobra effect?" that's just an humble brag and plain unfunny.

Re:Twitter was down by danielparks on Thursday July 11, 2019 @04:06PM (#20415260)
He’s joking.