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Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by smitherfield on Saturday May 21, 2016 @03:03AM (#11743555)
I suspect this is more of a response to demand—the genius bar at my local mall is typically booked days in advance.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by DasIch on Saturday May 21, 2016 @10:55AM (#11744856)
I don't see how any redesign could help with that. There is only a single Apple Store in Berlin and it's probably similar elsewhere in Europe.

The only way to get an appointment is to get one immediately once they make new ones available at midnight.

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by jbverschoor on Saturday May 21, 2016 @03:52AM (#11743695)
Same here And even if you have an appointment, you have to wait.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday May 21, 2016 @10:58AM (#11744864)
> even if you have an appointment, you have to wait

Am I the only one who finds this vain and disrespectful? I'm on time to my meetings. I'm on time to dinner after boozy brunch. Yet Apple can't help but overcommit when I take the time to schedule with them?

Go ahead and charge me a $20 cancellation fee for a "premium appointment". But don't present your brand with all the poise and discipline of a teen Hollywood wannabe.

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by pkaye on Saturday May 21, 2016 @03:35PM (#11745859)
Do you think they can estimate ahead of time how long each appointment will take?
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by ryanlol on Sunday May 22, 2016 @08:04AM (#11748260)
Accurately enough, yes. As long as they go over the actual time it takes, everything is fine.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by lostlogin on Sunday May 22, 2016 @03:46AM (#11747705)
"Your call is important to us, you are seventh in the queue and the call will be answered in 41 minutes to 1 hour." Yeah, no it won't.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by jackgavigan on Saturday May 21, 2016 @10:21AM (#11744756)
The flagship Apple store in London is getting a similar makeover: http://idoxpa.westminster.gov.uk/online-applications/applica...

They're taking away the mezzanine floor at the front of the store to turn the main section just inside the entrance into a big, open two-storey high square space (which sounds similar to the glass-roofed space at the existing Covent Garden store).

Adding more space to sit sounds like the approach taken by luxury boutiques, which often have chairs and sofas for customers (or, more likely, their spouses) to sit and relax.

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by cmdrfred on Saturday May 21, 2016 @02:39AM (#11743489)
I wonder if this move is to suit a new class of products. "... 42-foot-tall glass doors that slide open to expose the interior to the street" A car dealership perhaps?
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by jon-wood on Saturday May 21, 2016 @02:50AM (#11743521)
It's for the iPad Pro 2.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by williadc on Saturday May 21, 2016 @03:23AM (#11743626)
42' tall is quite excessive for a car.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by Razengan on Saturday May 21, 2016 @05:13AM (#11743915)
An iMech?
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by nickpsecurity on Saturday May 21, 2016 @09:07PM (#11746994)
I'll buy from Apple if it's an iMech. You know it will look stylish and unlike almost every other robot movie around. Because that's what they do best.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by theoh on Saturday May 21, 2016 @08:42PM (#11746918)
Maybe it's 42 1-foot tall doors.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by auggierose on Saturday May 21, 2016 @08:33AM (#11744467)
The next generation just wants to flow.

What does that mean?

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by smsm42 on Saturday May 21, 2016 @11:53AM (#11745082)
Nothing really, except expressing the desire of whoever invented that phrase to be perceived as possessing some deep insight into the thoughts of "next generation".
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by pekk on Saturday May 21, 2016 @02:37PM (#11745661)
Which is like saying "for humans" meaning that you want to be perceived as possessing some deep insight into what all people want products to be like.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by cr3ative on Sunday May 22, 2016 @01:12PM (#11749352)
Wander in, get service, wander out. Scheduling is an interruption.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by tmacro on Saturday May 21, 2016 @10:31AM (#11744793)
With the "wooden cubes and real leather medicine balls" it's sounds like they're taking a page from the fast food restaurant design manual, and completely misunderstanding it. Uncomfortable places to sit don't say, linger a while, they say, get your stuff and get out.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by ibash on Saturday May 21, 2016 @09:05PM (#11746987)
This article is nonsense -- but if you're in SF visit the store, the space feels good to walk through.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by CM30 on Saturday May 21, 2016 @05:25PM (#11746264)
So I guess they're aiming these stores at the (fairly large) group of visitors that use the Apple Stores to mess around with the technology and use it in their social gatherings rather than for buying any products from.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by ghostDancer on Saturday May 21, 2016 @06:07AM (#11744084)
The can call them iTemples.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by digi_owl on Saturday May 21, 2016 @08:55AM (#11744505)
Where one go to get ones iD stroked?
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by owly on Saturday May 21, 2016 @10:08AM (#11744707)
Real leather? Sounds like some Burberry BS.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by alexnewman on Saturday May 21, 2016 @02:37AM (#11743487)
Doom!
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by onion2k on Saturday May 21, 2016 @03:28AM (#11743632)
If they put in a bar to serve drinks then they can go full circle.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by skbohra123 on Saturday May 21, 2016 @08:27AM (#11744454)
Surprised to see an Apple related thread with so few comments!
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by WayneBro on Saturday May 21, 2016 @09:53AM (#11744660)
Apple is probably the most pretentious company that I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about.

I'll never meet anybody "at Apple". I may meet them at an Apple store but if anyone says the words "at Apple" then the meeting is off because I never want to speak to you again.

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by function_seven on Saturday May 21, 2016 @10:36AM (#11744803)
So you'll meet someone at a Best Buy store, but snub them if they say "at Best Buy"? Or a Starbucks coffee shop is OK, but "at Starbucks" is not? I'm not understanding here.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by noonespecial on Saturday May 21, 2016 @02:57PM (#11745726)
He went overboard with the "never want to speak to you again" bit but he's not wrong.

We say "at McDonalds" or "at Starbucks" because these places have a sort of casual ubiquity that's inserted them into our daily lives. We say "at the Apple store" because that's what feels right based its place in our daily experience.

A marketing guy trying to goad us into giving the Apple store that same casual ubiquity without "earning" it just by dropping some leather couches and potted plants into a store is pretentious. It feels wrong and we know it in an uncanny valley sort of way.

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by pbreit on Saturday May 21, 2016 @03:41PM (#11745880)
I don't think you should be down voted but I think you're wrong. The comment is clearly aspirational and reasonable. To get all uppity (the op) about it is kinda ridiculous.
Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by WayneBro on Wednesday June 01, 2016 @10:53AM (#11814771)
Uppity, like Apple?

I don't think I can reach those heights. (Remember those Mac vs PC commercials? You can't get much more uppity than that.)

Re:Apple Shifts from Genius Bars to Genius Groves, Hoping Pa... by ghshephard on Saturday May 21, 2016 @11:20AM (#11744945)
In Vancouver we would always say, "Let's meet at Eatons", or, "VPL", or, "The Bay", or heck, even, "Let's meet at Mickey Dee's" (Mcdonalds).

Do a good enough job creating an inviting public space, that people frequent, then yes, I think it's a reasonable goal to say, "Let's meet at Apple" - you've got to aspire to something, and that seems like a pretty worthwhile goal.