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Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by AIorNot on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:23PM (#50477286)
So a few years ago Nadella was a God among CEOs capturing OpenAI at the right time etc..but yeah laying off thousands of tenured folks surely is great strategy, god I hate the tech industry.

Btw does everyone see how insanely crappy Windows 11 is compared to MacOS

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by jwilcoxson on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:31PM (#50477354)
Yup.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by fractal618 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:55PM (#50477535)
I made the switch to Linux Mint and it’s wonderful and almost triples my battery life. I’m also in the process of switching to a phone with graphene os which runs like butter and feels so much more secure, safe and private.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by tapland on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:13PM (#50477703)
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Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by cowlevel on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:03AM (#50480444)
and that's crazy because traditionally Linux would drain your battery faster because it was lacking all the power optimisations. It still is, but windows must've gotten so bloated it's worse now.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by elboru on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:32PM (#50477874)
It's been three months since I switched to Arch. I've had a couple of hiccups that I couldn't resolve with an agent, or that I simply didn't want to spend too much time troubleshooting. Other than that, performance has been absolutely amazing. My terminal and browser open in milliseconds, not seconds. Even the heavy system I work on builds and loads in seconds instead of minutes. If I don't like a particular configuration, I can simply ask my agent to change it. Linux is GREAT in the agent era.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by thirtygeo on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:53AM (#50478902)
Loving Mint as well! Just switched a second PC over from win 11
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by pndy on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:57AM (#50480375)
I tried few distros including Mint but in the end CachyOS was one that works for me best. But I still got this W11 virtual machine where I can see how the system "evolves", and it still baffles me that Microsoft has the audacity to throw message saying "Windows Update is committed to helping reduce carbon emissions" and having "Energy recommendations" that "Lower your carbon footprint" where background processes continue to drain machine resources at random intervals since W10
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by OhMeadhbh on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:20PM (#50478273)
Oh man. Do not look at the Darwin source code with remaining eye.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by somenameforme on Thursday November 12, 2026 @11:36PM (#50478394)
11? Everything has been downhill since Windows 7. 'Upgrades' since then have relied almost entirely on coercion through forced obsolescence, or by outright force as with Windows 10 when your options were to upgrade now or 'ask again in 5 minutes.' And then it installs it anyhow next time you reboot. They apparently can't backport hardware/API support into Win 7, but they certainly were capable of backporting the 'telemetry' to it.

The irony is that I can finally get out of the Microsoft ecosystem thanks to Microsoft. The only thing that was keeping me there before is Visual Studio (which runs reliably only on Windows). But with the advent of LLMs and Visual Studio Code (which is cross platform), I haven't touched Visual Studio in months, and doubt I ever will again. LLMs should also ease the transition into a Linux ecosystem. RTFM? Nah ATFLLM.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by fodkodrasz on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:55AM (#50478909)
Crappy as in doesn't need third party full access to all accessibility untrusted toold for stuff like mouse scrolling the currect direction, volume control on external hdmi monitors, being able to navigate the UI using a keyboard, having the computer staying running when connected to a power source, etc?

One has to spend more on third party tools for getting MacOS to feature parity with a windows than a Win Pro license...

Linux is fine on the other hand, but you compared to a joke of an operating system.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by Selector8801 on Friday November 13, 2026 @01:43AM (#50479287)
MacOS honestly feels like a toy OS for kids.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by edstarch on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:59AM (#50481001)
The nice part is that it’s just Unix with a decently stable (for a time lol) and professionally designed UI layer.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by pwthornton on Friday November 13, 2026 @10:22AM (#50484869)
People use it every day to create and build stuff. That's always been MacOS's legacy.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by gambiting on Friday November 13, 2026 @02:32AM (#50479655)
>>Btw does everyone see how insanely crappy Windows 11 is compared to MacOS

This is just an anecdote, but I have the exact opposite experience. I'm a C++ games developer working on Windows 11 every day and other than the micro frustrations with stupid UI, the system just works. I know I can rely on it day to day. But I was also given a MacBook last year for our iOS ports and I don't understand how anyone considers it a serious operating system for work - it's full of bugs to a point where I started using AI to work around some of them. I thought maybe MacOS 27 would fix some of them and sure it did - but then it introduced a whole bunch of new ones. As a developer it's probably the worst OS you could pick - if you hate windows for whatever reason go straight to Linux, at least you have actual control over your OS compared to MacOS where basic things like spotlight are broken and there's no way to fix them other than add to the thousands of complaints on apple forums.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by worik on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:10AM (#50480002)
The Rot has set in at Apple, too
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by disgruntledphd2 on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:32AM (#50480185)
> hate windows for whatever reason go straight to Linux,

Honestly, for personal machines the M series is wonderful hardware, and I have young kids so no time to tune Linux (I ran it at home for around a decade or so).

But yeah, the interface has many, many bugs.

My "favourite" (new) bug is that sometimes you can't move a window from the laptop screen to another screen. It goes away if you full screen the app, but it's bizarre to me that it made it to production.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by pwthornton on Friday November 13, 2026 @10:15AM (#50484753)
I develop enterprise SaaS apps, and MacOS just works for me, so I guess your mileage may vary.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by eddythompson80 on Friday November 13, 2026 @02:34AM (#50479673)
Nadella's AI fumble is a true generational fuck up. They had OpenAI, they had complete access to GPT models before any one, they even had the first coding assistant concept.

Then due to typical clueless management and lack of taste and complete buffoonery, they just fucked it all up. I'm not complaining because I think everyone is better off, but it's just amazing to have witnessed that even when they luck out on a bet, they manage to fuck it up. Copilot started as a coding assistant, and before it could breath they destroyed the brand by shoving the name into literally everything without thinking or taste. Ignored the coding part, because that's lame, and instead focused on half assed Windows or Office apps and integrations that no one will ever use. Once claude code dominated the scene, they realized the major fuckup and tried to catch up, but it's too little too late.

Again, not complaining really.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by codethief on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:38AM (#50480234)
> instead focused on half assed Windows or Office apps and integrations that no one will ever use.

I actually know quite a few (non-tech) people that love to use Copilot in those apps. So I'm not sure it's as big of a fuck-up as you think it is (or as I certainly used to think it is).

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by eddythompson80 on Friday November 13, 2026 @03:40AM (#50480250)
There are people who bought Cybertrucks too you know.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by cowlevel on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:04AM (#50480453)
The Cybertruck was a success if it made a profit overall. So was Copilot. The point is to make money, not to make good products.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by j16sdiz on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:45AM (#50480841)
This mindset is what makes this society so depressing
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by cowlevel on Friday November 13, 2026 @06:21AM (#50481934)
We need to rewire ourselves to think about things that are profitable and useful. People prefer something that's expensive and useful over something that's just expensive. For some reason though it's only the people who are making useless things who are making anything at all. Nobody else tapped into the Cybertruck market segment at all.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by eddythompson80 on Friday November 13, 2026 @08:07AM (#50482979)
I'm not really sure I'm understand what you're trying to say tbh. Though tangentially what even is the Cybertruck market segment to begin with?

On profitable products though; sure as a general concept, but the rate of return, opportunity cost and market competition factor into the profitability equation too. You could go waste your time building a desktop app for a chatgpt clone and make some "profit" in the same time your competitor threw similar resources at making a claude code and that makes 100x your profit. That would mean you actually lost despite the profit. The opportunity cost isn't only in building the wrong thing, but also in the human resources you allocated to the task that deprived other areas. I see no world where the 6 dozen copilots we got from Microsoft have any good ROI beyond diluting a brand and making them more of a laughing stock.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by danaris on Friday November 13, 2026 @08:49AM (#50483462)
Hell no.

We need to rewire ourselves to think about things that are beneficial to society as a whole. Not "profitable." Profit just means more money going from the many to the few. That's what's gotten us into this awful situation.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by cowlevel on Friday November 13, 2026 @12:41PM (#50486955)
What good is thinking about the most beneficial things to society if you and your faction will never have the power to implement them or even to persuade those who do have that power?
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by danaris on Friday November 13, 2026 @01:31PM (#50487734)
Well, one of the things that I'm very, very certain is beneficial to society as a whole is getting the fascists and those who think that profit should be the first, last, and only concern out of power now and forever.

So fortunately, there's not really an incompatibility there.

Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by pwthornton on Friday November 13, 2026 @10:18AM (#50484797)
If the Cybertruck were making good money it wouldn't be getting canceled a few years into its run on the market. No car company does that to successful products.
Re:Outlook is down, and so is Microsoft's status page by pwthornton on Friday November 13, 2026 @10:10AM (#50484681)
I don't understand how basically everything has languished under Nadella. Apple doesn't sell MacOS, so it should be less incentivized to keep improving it, but it is way better than Windows and the gap keeps widening. If I didn't use MacOS, I would just use Linux.

Windows does always cater to backwards companility and making IT departments happy, so that explains some of the lagging technology and systems. I can't believe NTFS is still the default file systems. That's generations behind Apple's APFS.

The stock has popped, and that's what Wall Street cares about, but I could see a world where this chronic underinvestment and mismanagement basically implodes the entire company in the coming years.