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Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:32AM (#50463767)

  But I wholeheartedly disagree with ousting Jensen. And given the timing of all these releases, I wouldn't be surprised someone inside the government wants to bring him down.
I think there are a lot of people who want to bring him down. His competition - AMD, Broadcom, Google. OpenAI and Anthropic also have advocated for banning chip exports to China because of Chinese lab LLM competition. Then there are both Republican and Democrats who likely support the views of OpenAI/Anthropic.

Finally, because he's of Han Chinese origin, I bet they thought they could get the media to coordinate a narrative around him that will force him out. Of course, he sort of made it easy to pin something on him.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by atmosx on Thursday November 12, 2026 @01:50AM (#50463879)
Oh look! We have a list of suspects :-)

That’s what I think it’s going on… the “allegations” are ridiculous at best. He is the most “normal” of the bunch by a long short.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by sharpshadow on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:08AM (#50464795)
He’s is the CEO of NVIDIA since 33 years, he cofounded the company. This allegations are really minuscule.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by FranzFerdiNaN on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:20AM (#50464889)
He seems to have broken the law. That should have consequences. That he cofounded the company should not matter. Neither should it matter that many rich people get away with breaking the law in other cases.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:22AM (#50464906)
What law did he break?
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by desterothx on Thursday November 12, 2026 @05:00AM (#50465171)
IF Alice was a spy, and IF he was blackmailed into selling gpus to an ally of the CCP, thus breaking sanctions, he did break law. But both of those are a stretch atp
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by hlynurd on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:05AM (#50465574)
Foreign laymen here: if these are true, would they be considered treasonous?
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by PopePompus on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:25AM (#50466185)
Not in the US. The US has a very specific definition of treason in its constitution, and this case would not fit it.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court."

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by FrustratedMonky on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:55AM (#50466442)
Trump knew about the spy. For a Year. So any selling of GPU's might have had some under the table agreement. The US allowed it. Maybe this is why China helped with the oil crisis.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by selectodude on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:50AM (#50466394)
He coordinated with an agent of a foreign state to bypass sanctions.

Like, internal Nvidia KYC policy changed per Huang to facilitate GPU sales to Megaspeed.

Whether or not he realized it, cared, or was aware and doing it on purpose, he was acting as an enormously powerful lobbyist and influencer on the US as an agent of China.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by atmosx on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:25AM (#50464928)
lol, what laws? The article goes: "Someone thinks his mistress is a spy and he did not take that into account. Or he might have but we don't know if he broke-up immediately or a bit later, it's unclear. Either way lets sack him". It's complete BS: your either have facts or you don't and they don't, they just want to oust him out most likely because of his position on open-weight models.

If only the economist was equally "concerned" about other CEO misconducts...

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by sharpshadow on Thursday November 12, 2026 @05:50AM (#50465478)
It’s not about that, it’s about the cloud compute loophole of export restricted chips. NVIDIA sold billions worth of chips to Megaspeed, a Chinese company spin out in Singapore founded right after the export ban. Neocloud Megaspeed rented most of their compute to Chinese companies like Alibaba circumventing the sanctions. The investigations didn’t find any wrongdoing per se even if it’s very obvious that the whole Megaspeed operation is Chinese state orchestration. Labelling Alice as a spy put an immediate hold to all of this.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by Betelbuddy on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:05AM (#50465973)
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by svara on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:30AM (#50464114)
The thing is that at this point, even if this was all a plot to take him down, it worked! Can't go back to the information not being public.

He's operating in a highly charged political environment in which his credibility is a key asset. He can't effectively advocate for NVIDIA's interests if his credibility is damaged.

And this goes directly to his credibility on the most politically charged issue of all: The geopolitical rivalry between the US and China, and NVIDIA's role in it.

I agree it's a tragedy for NVIDIA, he seems to have been exceptional as a CEO, it's just too late now.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @02:37AM (#50464161)
It definitely worked. It shows just how powerful the media is at creating narratives.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by InsideOutSanta on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:51AM (#50465108)
> It shows just how powerful the media is at creating narratives

As far as I can tell, most of the reports were just recounting factual information. The narrative was already there. The media didn't create it.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @05:02AM (#50465183)
We can't be so gullible that we think this wasn't deliberate right?

This X post makes a lot of sense: https://x.com/antfeedapp/status/2120454507448651933

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by InsideOutSanta on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:01AM (#50465539)
> We can't be so gullible that we think this wasn't deliberate right?

What do you mean by "this"? One thing I agree with is that we knew about this story for months. I've read about Jensen's affair with Alice Huang and her ties to the Chinese government at least five months ago.

The thing that triggered the current reporting was the new sourcing about U.S. intelligence findings that came out in late October. So mainstream news started reporting on it once they had sources they found trustworthy.

The confusing thing, though, is not that the story suddenly became big, but why it didn't become big much earlier.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by singleshot_ on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:03AM (#50467262)
> U.S. intelligence

Did they ever find the uranium in Iraq? Good luck with those guys.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by InsideOutSanta on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:10AM (#50467415)
Are you saying Jensen didn't have the affair he admitted to having?
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by patrickk on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:28AM (#50466782)
Of course it’s deliberate. The timing is especially interesting and noted in your link.

Whenever I see these kinds of stories I think of this, written a century ago:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallizing_Public_Opinion

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by apercu on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:50AM (#50466395)
Further, some of this has been out in the open and questioned for a year or two and the media said little if anything.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by tarsinge on Thursday November 12, 2026 @05:42AM (#50465430)
To be fair this is the kind of thing the media and the public love to follow. Public powerful figure, sex, spying, political and business schemes, it has everything. Doesn't mean it wasn't coordinated at first to get it in the spotlight, but there is no need for that now I think.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by johnnyanmac on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:31AM (#50466832)
Yeah, this is pretty much peak eyeball soap opera drama kind of "tea", as they say. It has my parents talking about it, and they couldn't be less in tune wih tech and AI and GPUs. And apparently US intelligence was aware of this for over a year; they were simply told to not dig deeper.

Hanlon's razor seems to apply here, so I don't really think it's a psyop. Simply information many (top secret) parties were aware of for a while that other people who are incentivized to tell everyone eventually caught up on.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by program_whiz on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:04AM (#50467283)
Hanlon's razor: please don't attribute malice to us poor billionaires and the intelligence community (or hold us accountable), we're just so gosh-darn incompetent.

I'm tired of hearing hanlon's razor tossed around. How about the inverse: I attribute malice if doing so makes the system better and explains your behavior. Even if you are just a fool, your actions impact others and have the same consequences of malice. I hold you to account like a criminal if you act like one.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by johnnyanmac on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:17AM (#50468774)
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Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by eagleal on Thursday November 12, 2026 @10:38AM (#50469169)
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Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by pimeys on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:31AM (#50465733)
Again, repeating my comment from the Jensen thread a few days ago: this is like directly from the David Fincher movie "Gone Girl".

I recommend watching it if the power of media interests you.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by robertlagrant on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:32AM (#50466236)
The moment where Rosamund Pike looks at the camera in that way (being vague, but I think people who've watched it will remember) is just incredible.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by jfckenfishf on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:55AM (#50466447)
The question is why does the board care?

They could have easily just waited a month or two and let this all just go away.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:59AM (#50466495)
The board doesn't care. They probably knew about all of this and employees knew about the affair with his direct report as well for years.

It's the outside pressure.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by jfckenfishf on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:03AM (#50466528)
So the interesting question is who and how are they applying that pressure.

Does it just come down to virtue signaling pressure?

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by retwakm4 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:23AM (#50466729)
The outside pressure is probably the investigations, including the securities lawsuit, that have already started. The coordinated media campaign is the way to tell the board "hey by the way, this guy is going down", we don't know exactly where "down" is yet, but I doubt this whole thing just blows over with an apology email about an affair.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by anonreplier on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:33AM (#50466849)
lol you said virtue signaling
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by santoshalper on Thursday November 12, 2026 @09:38AM (#50468014)
What narrative did the media create?

- He is married and had multiple affairs

- He slept with a subordinate

- He slept with a business partner

- He was compromised by a Chinese spy

These are all just facts - the narrative writes itself.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by SvenL on Thursday November 12, 2026 @03:46AM (#50464626)
Wasn’t the CEO of AMD his cousin? I guess it would match the GoT comparison…
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by m4rtink on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:00AM (#50464739)
Also likely all gamers and home GPU users in general.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @04:14AM (#50464835)
He's a strong advocate for gaming. That's why he started Nvidia in the first place.

I think whoever is next will not always have the affinity for gaming. Any finance person who looks at the unit economics of gaming would conclude that they should allocate next to no chip supply to gaming GPUs.

An RTX 5090 is the same die size as a server GPU.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by Azantys on Thursday November 12, 2026 @05:14AM (#50465257)
They stopped manufacturing the 5090 even under Jensens control. And no the 5090 die is only 750mm squared big, a B200s die is 1628mm squared. That is more than twice the size of a 5090.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by electroglyph on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:35AM (#50465748)
the 6000 pro definitely counts as a server GPU. coreweave seems to think so, anyway
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by aurareturn on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:43AM (#50465801)
A B200 is two dies glued together. A single Blackwell GPU die is the same size as an RTX 5090 basically.

An RTX 5090 is a reticle sized chip.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by sznio on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:24AM (#50465691)
as nvidia goes into making purely big-business hardware, some other player will arrive to provide the chips to the masses. then, the researchers will use this mass-market hardware for research, supplanting nvidia itself.

nvidia got their strong position in AI now by providing CUDA to researchers who couldn't afford their own supercomputing cluster. and now the entirety of machine learning revolves around CUDA.

once you fixate on the business and lock out the masses, you instantly elect to become a fossil like IBM.

Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by robertlagrant on Thursday November 12, 2026 @07:32AM (#50466240)
Not instantly. It'll take a very long time to fall. As IBM stubbornly fails to completely do.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by numpad0 on Thursday November 12, 2026 @08:27AM (#50466776)
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Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by rolosa on Thursday November 12, 2026 @06:04AM (#50465557)
The mass population hate AI and billionaires and are perfectly happy with seeing an AI billionaire FAFO.
Re:Nvidia prepares to fire CEO Jensen Huang, WSJ reports by avidruntime on Thursday November 12, 2026 @12:30PM (#50470942)
https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/huangs-cozine...

> WSJ reports that details of the affair were known to top officials, including SoS Rubio and CIA Ratcliffe, “going back to last year,” and were brought to President Trump; the administration took no action to blacklist Megaspeed.

Does this this sound like people who want to bring him down or people who wanted to protect him?