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Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by AMDAnon on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:35PM (#50369679)
AMD is doing 5 day RTO for almost everyone with 3 months of notice in an obvious attempt to get people to quit before vesting their 5x stock grants.

The rule includes >90% of "remote" workers who have discovered they were classified as hybrid (a classification now eliminated) and their manager didn't make it official. Now, remote approvals are SVP level.

The issue is, AMD still pays significantly less than any company with an RTO mandate, even with the stock appreciation. And the stock has gone down 25% in the past few weeks so it's even less competitive. The typical engineer was not given an equity-weighted package, even L9 only 30% of your TC is in stock.

It's a recruiting bonanza right now and everyone's getting calls offering 50% pay bumps from 5-day office semi corps like Broadcom or Qualcomm. The better people are getting offers at Google or Apple for 3-day RTO for even greater TC bumps.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by mickeyp on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:39PM (#50369732)
I'm not surprised.

The board should've sacked the entire leadership team of Intel and AMD years and years ago.

The fact that you can sit through both a mining boom and now a generational AI boom and have little to show for it and still keep your job is a Yahoo!-level fumble.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by sofixa on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:49PM (#50369859)
Intel have gone through 3 leadership teams in 10ish years
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by mickeyp on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:04PM (#50370061)
Gosh, you're right. I thought it was just one.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by georgeburdell on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:29PM (#50371065)
They brought back some questionable former managers like the guy responsible for 14nm, Sanjay Natarajan, which was the first process to get stuck with a protracted period of low yields.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by chorsestudios on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:12PM (#50370160)
Ryzen series chips might not have been released if AMD's entire leadership team was sacked many years ago.

The heavy investments into HMB between SK Hynix & AMD might also not have happened. They went down this road before HMB demand popped off and it was a risky bet.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by throwaway85825 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:37PM (#50373450)
Rory Read doesn't get enough credit for saving AMD from bankrupty.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by AMDAnon on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @02:57PM (#50370684)
They can't find new leaders! Sharon Zhou, VP who handles all our engagements with the frontier labs quit today to be an MTS at Anthropic. https://lnkd.in/p/g53S3-fG

Sharon was the AI Chief of Staff brought in through an acquihire, managed all the high-visibility external/internal AI engagements, reported directly into Lisa Su, and was being groomed to be Lisa's successor. Even with all that, she couldn't make it 2 years at AMD.

Our internally developed execs/directors/VPs have no credibility with the frontier labs or hyperscalers because they're non-technical types. They don't understand software management so they couldn't fix any of the problems with ROCm by making systemic changes in how we develop software e.g. Alan Lee who got pushed out ages ago after spending years promising ROCm would get better while nothing happened.

The only software-oriented technical VP with credibility now is Anush Elangovan. He was also brought in through an acquihire, forced us to upstream, forced us to have CI, and adopt basic software practices common at every other company. If we lose him, we're going to start plummeting fast.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by mickeyp on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:18PM (#50370914)
How sad.

I remember buying an AMD K6-2 back in the day as it was cheaper and better. I've dropped in and out of the AMD sphere depending on who was winning at the given moment.

Now they're both losing.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by NooneAtAll5 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:24PM (#50370990)
> our internal directors/VPs are mostly non-technical

why not start with trying to fix that?

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by bravetraveler on Thursday November 05, 2026 @10:34AM (#50380413)
The technical people are being rented out to customers, unfortunately; economics, to put it short.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by z3ratul163071 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:33PM (#50384111)
well, that explains everything.

unfortunately most us industry fell victim to this mba-ization of companies.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by georgeburdell on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:26PM (#50371019)
100% Lisa Su is a control freak and thought Zhou was a threat. Cult of personality CEOs do not generally end well for the company
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by josh_frome on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @05:06PM (#50372196)
Jobs being the exception that proves the rule
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by justsomehnguy on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:16PM (#50373289)
Jobs failed hard and was outed in the first place. And he didn't 'come back' he was quite literally bought in with NeXTSTEP. Don't forget $150M from Microsoft and the Office for Mac deal.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by LeFantome on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:13PM (#50386925)
NeXT software on lower end Apple hardware was a winning combination.

And the software ecosystem was already in place (even though everything had to be rewritten).

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by cowlevel on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:28PM (#50373873)
He backed it up with actual product-building merit and enough (but not a lot of) reality-testing. His products were successful largely because of him. Too many copycats forget about the merit part of the equation.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by pjmlp on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:12AM (#50376512)
Not all products, NeXT was a major failure, with a few books telling the story how it all went down, only due to Apple's acquisition there was a moment that with Apple's remaining cash, and what was left of OpenSTEP, they managed to survive both companies.

Had Apple gone with Be instead, most likely all three companies would have gone bankrupt before 2000, and Pixar would be Jobs last successful company instead.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by LeFantome on Thursday November 05, 2026 @08:11PM (#50386908)
I am no Steve Jobs fan but NeXT was amazing and much of the tech is still commercially important today. There is no way you can call it a technical failure.

Where NeXT went wrong is in being astronomically expensive, which drove its addressable market to nothing. This is the exact same mistake Jobs made with the Lisa. The significantly inferior Apple II platform was far more successful.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by amarcheschi on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:38PM (#50371167)
I can apply as a ceo if you accept master students. Having studied drama, I can definitely say I act better than pat gelsinger
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by specialist on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:19PM (#50372807)
Sure, but do you have any missionary / evangelism experience?
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by amarcheschi on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @07:41PM (#50373484)
Unfortunately no, but I can pray really hard maybe
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by skew-aberration on Thursday November 05, 2026 @12:09AM (#50375448)
You might be better qualified as a shareholder then
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by latchkey on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @06:44PM (#50373010)
Sharon was acqui-hired after Lamini failed to find product market fit, and she had to fire her co-founder Greg. Greg went to Tensorwave (another AMD play) and eventually quit there as well.

The way I look at it, AMD and others dumped $25m into a very early AI play that never was going to be successful. I don't fault them for trying.

There was no way she could even come close to successor of Lisa though. The grooming thing was a media play at best. Dr. Fei-Fei Li would be a heck of a lot more appropriate than Sharon.

Anush is excellent and turned around the software story. If he goes, the party is over.

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by pointyfence on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:49PM (#50419028)
The fact that Sharon was mentioned as a possible successor to Su made me LOL. OP totally clueless. She should never have been given a VP AI Engineering title given how little she's done in her career which says more about how ignorant / desperate AMD was at the time. They've made big strides since then. I'm not expecting her to make it 2 years in Anthropic either.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by z3ratul163071 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @03:32PM (#50384102)
"Even with all that, she couldn't make it 2 years at AMD." imagine how toxic and rotten the company must be from the inside
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by dingaling on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @05:19PM (#50372300)
"The fact that you can sit through both a mining boom and now a generational AI boom..."

It's not necessary for every company to attempt 'revenue maxxing' by jumping into every field.

AMD made $3.5 billion in profit last year after all expenses were paid. It might be galling to this generation of avarists, but maybe that's enough?

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:00PM (#50373650)
AMD is also a hardware company with significantly more overhead than a software house that is swimming in margin.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by kcb on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @05:53PM (#50372591)
What are we talking about in this thread. This post is literally about AMD revenue going wild during the AI boom.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by halJordan on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @10:04PM (#50374634)
Ok, I'm glad I'm not the crazy one. I wondered for a second lol
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by ckastner on Thursday November 05, 2026 @07:25AM (#50378277)
> This post is literally about AMD revenue going wild during the AI boom.

You mean going mild.

The $17bn that AMD is projecting to make mid-2026 is what NVIDIA was already making mid-2023.

Both companies were somewhat similar in revenue towards the end of 2022 (just before/around the ChatGPT launch).

That's what the GP meant by "sitting out a generational AI boom".

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by expedition32 on Thursday November 05, 2026 @11:48AM (#50381355)
And when the boom goes bust guess who will still be around chugging along?
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by BobbyTables2 on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @11:48PM (#50375323)
Even Yahoo has an AI and better search results than they did in the past…

I think Intel figured out way to be even worse…

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by dboreham on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @01:50PM (#50369880)
Interesting data point as a stock holder, thanks.
Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by BeetleB on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @03:24PM (#50371006)
> The issue is, AMD still pays significantly less than any company with an RTO mandate

I'm sure they pay more than Intel ;-)

Re:AMD expects to outsell Intel in Q4 for the first time in ... by tiffanyh on Wednesday November 04, 2026 @08:46PM (#50374035)
Intel stock is down 49% in just the last month alone.

A lot of said gains have been erased.