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Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by hungryhobbit on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:24PM (#50280363)
TLDR; Alphabet hit negative free cash flow for the first time ever since going public.

Translation: even Google ... a company that basically has a license to print money (aka Google Search) ... is losing a ton of money on AI.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by olejorgenb on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:26PM (#50280393)
Negative free cash flow is not the same as losing money
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by JKCalhoun on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:26PM (#50280399)
Like others, desperate to make sure they're the next Google.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by nbevans on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:32PM (#50280486)
posting about negative free cash flow seems to be the new tell for those pretending to know what happens next in the AI era. this post included.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by cs702 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:30PM (#50280448)
Impressive growth, and even more, ahem, impressive capital spending :-O

According to page 6, year to date in 2026, operations generated $127B in cash, and capital spending on property and equipment was $132B, so year to date, the business consumed $5B.

According to page 8, in the last quarter, operations generated $42B and capital spending was $51B, so over the past three months, the business consumed $9B.

Those figures don't include any capital spending made through off-balance sheet arrangements. No idea what those might be, or for how much Alphabet could be on the hook.

I'm curious to see if all that money invested in infrastructure will pay off. I hope it pays off, for everyone's sake, but hope is not certainty.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by mirekrusin on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:33PM (#50280499)
Why their shares tanked 10% then?
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by treis on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:39PM (#50280564)
It's a tale of two AIs for Google. Cloud doubled revenue and tripled profit, probably based off serving models. So good for Cloud.

Search increased revenue and profit which is good. Means that LLMs are not yet stealing revenue. But also bad because the massive spend on infrastructure doesn't look like it's going to come back as increased revenue.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by mirekrusin on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:54PM (#50280765)
Out of all companies, with their own TPUs and native large scale computing... "habitat" they exist in – they probably know how to spend it well.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by Anon1096 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:09PM (#50280928)
People on the internet really overrate google's TPU advantage. OAI and Anthropic and others have been using TPUs as well for a long time now too. And they've also hired lots and lots of talent from the rest of FAANG, hyperscale compute talent and knowledge is also well distributed through all the top AI companies at this point.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by ismailmaj on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:13PM (#50280972)
They control the supply chain though, so they can't be price-gouged by Nvidia
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by UncleOxidant on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:35PM (#50280518)
Pretty sure it's this part:

> generating $127B in cash, and capital spending on property and equipment was $132B, so the business consumed $5B.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by mirekrusin on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:56PM (#50280787)
well, they don't burn it like anthropic on rent, they spend it on their own TPUs, right?
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by mono442 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:05PM (#50280883)
There's no guarantee it'll generate big enough returns and it's probably at jacked up prices.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by utopcell on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:55PM (#50280771)
not sure why you're getting downvoted, this is pretty much the reason.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by anukin on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:17PM (#50281017)
They need to do layoffs and it will pop by 20%
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by rubiquity on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:08PM (#50280913)
First signs that Search revenue might be peaking.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paulpauper on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:23PM (#50281093)
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by hiddencost on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:41PM (#50280596)
It's about expectations. They missed expectations on earnings, meaning they're less valuable than people thought.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by vessenes on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:53PM (#50280756)
I mean, it will pay off for society one way or the other — we’ll have the datacenters and (hopefully) the weights at the end of this.

That’s an amazing amount of revenue and spend, though. Wild.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paulpauper on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:04PM (#50280873)
The buildout is out of control lol
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by maerF0x0 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:06PM (#50280897)
sell shovels
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by HDThoreaun on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:36PM (#50281248)
Google is selling shovels. They spent $131 billion to produce shovels so far this year
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by syrgian on Thursday October 29, 2026 @09:27AM (#50288704)
I would say Google is buying shovels and selling shoveling services.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by maerF0x0 on Thursday October 29, 2026 @11:39AM (#50290809)
the analogy is falling apart.

I meant Datacenter real estate, construction companies, building materials. :)

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paxy on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:31PM (#50280466)
It's wild how quickly the tide turned from big tech companies having hundreds of billions in cash reserves and not knowing what to do with it to now taking on hundreds of billions in debt for questionable infrastructure buildouts.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by gradus_ad on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:52PM (#50280746)
Ironically their massive cash reserves created an environment where the cost of AI infrastructure could be bid up so much to consume those very cash reserves.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by bethekidyouwant on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @06:17PM (#50281714)
It’s never irony
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by eitally on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @11:11PM (#50284145)
At least in the case of Google, the pace of their buildout is very nearly being matched by the growth of Cloud consumption (and related contracts with companies like Anthropic & OAI). Cloud had >100% y/y growth this quarter to >$30b rev. That's insane, and it's quite profitable. But consumption revenue is always a lagging indicator of capital investment, and it just so happens that this business cycle is demanding a scale of capex heretofore unimaginable. Institutional investors seem to have been happier with business as usual (big annual stock buy-backs, predictable cloud/ads/youtube growth in the high-20% range, EPS in the $5-9/share/qtr range, and an enormous pile of cash). This is the first time since 2004 where buying GOOG really feels like placing a bet rather than buying a blue-chip. To that point, this is also why GOOG has been treated like an AI company for the past 18mo or so, rather than a media & infrastructure company, and what justified the dramatic increase in it's P/E.

Taking a longer view, I have confidence things will work out well and this dip is a great buying opportunity, but I can also understand why the market several reasons to be skittish.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by MattCruikshank on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:33PM (#50280500)
...and the stock falls 8% in after-hours trading.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paulpauper on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:06PM (#50280895)
this happens a 3-4 times a year and it bounces back within a few months
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by aix1 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @11:43PM (#50284324)
Depending on how the next trading day goes, this could be a bit more than "this happens about once quarter". From to the FT:

> Its shares fell more than 10 per cent in after-hours trading[...] The share price drop, if sustained, would wipe more than $400bn from the group’s market value, the largest single-day loss in the company’s history.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by gigatexal on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:36PM (#50280537)
Meh I bought the dip. Google has such giant moats. I’m still hugely long tech.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paxy on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:41PM (#50280592)
I'm sure Google will end up being one of the winners no matter what but man the market hates the stock. It was trading at 16 p/e before earnings and is now at like 14. Less than half of Microsoft, Apple, Nvidia.
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Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by malfist on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:03PM (#50280867)
You can't think of any reasons not to like AI?
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by febusravenga on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:02PM (#50280849)
Personally, because it forced me to abandon my craft as programmer and become meat proxy ...soon to be replaced.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by chilipepperhott on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:45PM (#50280637)
I've found people on HN to be far more AI-tolerant than any other group of people I've encountered yet.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by qlte on Thursday October 29, 2026 @02:59PM (#50294150)
Yes, at any given time like 75% of the front page is about Yet Another AI Model/Tool/Demo/etc.

Sure, the comment threads have varying opinions with a decent share of AI skeptics/critics but also plenty of die hard AI boosters.

It's hard to imagine what an even more pro-AI version of HN would look like whenever I see the meme that "HN hates AI". Unless the hope is for a 100% pro-AI echo chamber (which would be completely detached from the broader controversy about AI among the general public).

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by pixl97 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:03PM (#50280862)
Because there are a lot of people on HN and the general population is very split on AI.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by lovich on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:02PM (#50280845)
Well it’s currently negatively affecting my life in every aspect other than being an upgrade to searches.

I don’t discount its capabilities since around April of this year, it passed my bar for being able to do amazing things. But it has also made any interaction I’ve had with companies a living nightmare and appears to have permanently deleted my career and knocked me down 1-2 economic classes.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by newsclues on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:51PM (#50280724)
Personally because it’s made pc parts unaffordable or unobtainable.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paulpauper on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:25PM (#50281122)
being pro-Ai is a minority or outsider position even though AI critics frame themselves as outsiders.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by asb-qwer on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:45PM (#50280630)
Ad sales fall because the AI mania has made it clear that Big Tech does not care about humans, so humans go elsewhere.

Advertisers on the other hand are alerted to viewbotting with increasingly sophisticated AI "users".

It was clear already two years ago that the model of AI generated "content" that is watched by AI viewbots does not work. Of course Big Tech has to steam forward and find out the hard way.

Congrats, you have ruined the entire SV business model with your fantasies derived from cheap, horribly written SciFi novels.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by dktp on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:02PM (#50280857)
Ad sales grew
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by aser-asd on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:09PM (#50280922)
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by joquarky on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:51PM (#50281447)
So it grew, but it didn't grow fast enough?

This right here is the source of most of humanity's upcoming problems.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by _aavaa_ on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:49PM (#50280702)
As sales dropped probably because people ask their AI for answers and searches instead of Google…
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paulpauper on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:24PM (#50281103)
Ad sales fall because the AI mania has made it clear that Big Tech does not care about humans, so humans go elsewhere.

This isn't true. Meta ad sales and traffic are surging. This is mostly a problem with Google.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by HardCodedBias on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:49PM (#50280695)
1. Cloud killed it.

2. Youtube meh, like always (weird that it doesn't kill it)

3. Search -- this was the issue. QonQ 0.1% <-- the whole story

Everyone has expected Search to, sooner or later, crack. This looks like it may be it.

If Google had 30B in revenue from coding tools and a few billion from Gemini Enterprise then there would be a story that Google could get through this.

But GDM didn't execute. And that's that.

Who knows the bottom. More than 10-15% seems unlikely. But if search cracks again next quarter then we'll see a real revaluing of the business.

Google did not have the proper focus on AI. They should have owned the space. But there were clearly management issues.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by dada216 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @06:24PM (#50281792)
Although Argon hasn't delivered on coding yet I think that it's just the first checkpoint of the new model family since Hassabis, and I think it's promising, so if they can get a few good checkpoints in and then price gauge anthropic they can get that sweet sweet coding tools subscription revenue. Antigravity is not that bad, pair it with a good model with good limits, ideally slightly cheaper than the X5/x20 sub from Anthropic, and I, for one, would switch.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by alex1138 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @04:52PM (#50280741)
Youtube has sucked for many years. I just don't know how much Google is responsible for it. Back in 2006, they were dealing with copyright battles (despite the fact they won their lawsuit against Viacom) so Google bought them to help them out with their resources. The site itself has tons of censorship and bad targeting on the recommended videos and I think Neal Mohan has made it even worse the last few years with more and more ads and Shorts and everything
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by _ink_ on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:08PM (#50280915)
> Youtube meh, like always (weird that it doesn't kill it)

It's a huuuge training set, why would they kill that?

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by HardCodedBias on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:15PM (#50280994)
Kill it as in "awesome financial results"
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by paulpauper on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:05PM (#50280885)
Google makes a shitton of money with the same ol' click ads--same as in 2004. But with a bunch of other stuff added, like AI spending.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by spwa4 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @05:42PM (#50281329)
... and immediately crashed 10% down.
Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by motionlessveloc on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @07:40PM (#50282496)
One fun line from the results: Google assets are up in one year from $595,281M to $1,003,312M, in other words one trillion dollars. Not market cap, mind you, but assets that could in theory be sold today to raise a trillion dollars in cash.

Liabilities also increased from $180,016M to 325,763M, but in comparison that seems almost puny.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by aix1 on Wednesday October 28, 2026 @11:34PM (#50284265)
> could in theory be sold today to raise a trillion dollars in cash

Nothing worth a trillion bucks can be sold today. :)

Also, this does include things like property and equipment ($375bn), which I'm guessing are essential for running the business.

That aside, GOOG does hold $265bn in cash and near cash, which in my book is a lot of money.

Re:Alphabet Announces Third Quarter 2026 Results [pdf] by uejfiweun on Thursday October 29, 2026 @03:34AM (#50285582)
I don't get why they do these things like debt issuance and stock dilution if they could just spend some of that cash. Like, what else is it for?