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Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tomkarho on Friday February 13, 2026 @12:09PM (#47005033)
Those who come to this magnificent piece of Sci-Fi for the first time, a word of advice: Pay attention. There are things set in motion in season 1 that are resolved multiple seasons later and there's a lot of foreshadowing (pun very much intended) both subtle and overt.

Oh and, enjoy the ride. It's a good one.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tracker1 on Friday February 13, 2026 @02:20PM (#47006595)
I just found the acting in the first season really, "soap opera" like. I'm not sure how to describe it better. It's still one of my all time favorite shows.

I wish they'd do a corrected bluray release with even a bit more effort... when they did the upscaling for HD release on HBO Max, they messed up a couple episodes.

Maybe AI upscale to 4k, with training data for newer ship models, actor photos, etc then reducing back to 1080p for a final BluRay set. Probably enough people that would do this as a passion project if the studio would let them.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by RupertSalt on Friday February 13, 2026 @02:51PM (#47006929)
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by conception on Saturday February 14, 2026 @01:49AM (#47012266)
Season one it was a traditional adventure of the week style show that was popular at the time and before. because having a multi season story arc was unheard of and still more or less is today so the first season was traditional TV and only when mildly successful did it have the ability to spread its wings. and it did so so well that it forced other shows like DS9 to also have seasonal story arcs.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by fao_ on Saturday February 14, 2026 @01:54AM (#47012281)
> Season one it was a traditional adventure of the week style show that was popular at the time and before. because having a multi season story arc was unheard of and still more or less is today so the first season was traditional TV and only when mildly successful did it have the ability to spread its wings. and it did so so well that it forced other shows like DS9 to also have seasonal story arcs.

Unfortunately incorrect! JMS had the entire plot and "bible" written out start to finish before the show was produced, and the show was approved based on that bible. It had all the room it planned for and needed at the start. There were even built-in "escape hatches" planned for if actors had to drop out (which happened to Michael O'Hare, unfortunately)

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by MindSpunk on Saturday February 14, 2026 @03:06AM (#47012642)
The first season is definitely the most conventional (for the time) and I think that reflects in some of JMS's statements saying the show was still getting onto its feet through the first season. Having the serialized story was very unfamiliar territory for Hollywood television back then, they were learning on their feet.

If I recall correctly JMS wrote basically every episode after season 1, where as season 1 had a few guest writers. The guest written episodes did not do well, including episode 14 which is probably the worst episode in the entire series.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by yrro on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:46AM (#47013161)
The "TKO" 'A' plot is silly but it has one of the most moving and memorable 'B' plots of the series!
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by db48x on Sunday February 15, 2026 @08:35PM (#47029847)
Agreed! In fact it is kindof annoying. Every set of orderable elements has a worst element, therefore every show has some bad episodes. You want to tell new viewers to just skip those episodes if they want, but it’s practically impossible with B5. If you skip TKO because part of it is cliche then you also miss the essential key to understanding Ivanova.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @05:00AM (#47033110)
Both were pretty meh IMO.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by Uvix on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:06AM (#47014632)
Season 2 had a similar writer split to season 1. It's season 3 where he took the reins entirely.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by decafninja on Saturday February 14, 2026 @02:32PM (#47017532)
Tangent, but a cartoon I immensely enjoyed as a young kid popped up recently on my YouTube feed - Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors. That day I learned JMS wrote the story and it too featured an overarching story that backed the otherwise “episode of the week” format.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by wdkrnls on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:47AM (#47013164)
I heard the original story with O'Hare was for Babylon 5 to blow up after an alien attack and for the Babylon 4 to be sent forward from the past to replace it. We saw hints for that in two different premonitions in season 1. That's a pretty big departure from the story we actually got.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by db48x on Sunday February 15, 2026 @08:41PM (#47029901)
That’s entirely possible. The story was deliberately quite fluid so that it could be adapted on the fly to unforseen changes in the cast.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by Izkata on Saturday February 14, 2026 @08:12PM (#47020154)
> It had all the room it planned for and needed at the start.

Almost. Come S4 they got concerned the show would be canceled before finishing the story, so they dropped all the secondary plots from S4 and S5 and compressed the main plots from S4 and S5 into just S4. Then they got renewed and quickly wrote a new S4 finale using S5 budget, postponed the series finale a year to S5, and reworked all the dropped secondary plots into S5.

Personally I think this worked really well, made S4 much more fast-paced and S5 feels more like a "the world keeps turning" extended epilogue.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @05:07AM (#47033185)
Can't say I agree - to me S4 felt quite rushed and seemed to be missing a lot more than just secondary plot developments. They go from "unstoppable enemy with the Vorlons being the only real hope" to "telepaths go brrr, also Vorlons are dicks now" in basically no time and then also jam in the battle for earth in the same season which felt really jarring. Then S5 feels like it's setting up the next big plot (the remaining shadow allies and specifically their hold over the centauri) only for that to end on a cliff hanger where nothing gets resolved even in the finale set in the far future.

It's really unfortunate that so many bad things happened to this show since it being still great overall despite them suggests it could have been one of a kind if things had gone better.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by wdkrnls on Saturday February 14, 2026 @05:03AM (#47013250)
From what I've read, DS9 was heavily based on the Babylon 5 Bible which was pitched by JMS to Paramount years before. You might charitably say DS9 was the Guix to the Nix of Babylon 5: Same core ideas mapped onto different story universes. The earlier B5 Bible apparently even had a changeling security officer which evolved into the "changeling net" plot shown in the pilot episode.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @04:59AM (#47033097)
Which is unfortunate as the writers can't seem to resist constantly making even bigger threats/drama with these longer story arcs messing up whole character arcs to just so they can shock the audience with big things happening. Limitations breed creativity and the limitation of having everything mostly go back to normal at the end of the episode is really underappreciated here.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by thisislife2 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:02AM (#47012925)
There are some AI upscaled versions of Babylon 5, Star Trek Voyager etc. on torrent. Pretty decent.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by TiredOfLife on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:14AM (#47012981)
> when they did the upscaling for HD release on HBO Max, they messed up a couple episodes.

Those were not upscales.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tracker1 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @10:02AM (#47015026)
They definitely aren't 1/4 SD (DVD) though... The original series was SD, shot in SD for the early seasons with 1/4 res CGI.

The HBO Max release was 1080p with some wife screen usage... The extra pixels came from somewhere.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by TiredOfLife on Saturday February 14, 2026 @03:08PM (#47017891)
Series were shot on film. The HD versions are a mix of rescanned film and upscaled vfx shots
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tracker1 on Sunday February 15, 2026 @01:30AM (#47021522)
I thought you said it wasn't upscaled at all.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by db48x on Sunday February 15, 2026 @08:46PM (#47029939)
Rescanning the film is quite different from upscaling. Film is a lot of tiny silver grains embedded in a transparent plastic medium. Each tiny grain is photosensitive. Once you get through the whole process of exposure, developing, fixing, etc, etc then each grain of silver becomes a tiny dot of light on a projection screen. Not a rectangle or a square, but an irregular blob of colored light amongst a sea of irregular blobs of colored light. When we scan the film to make a digital video we sample those blobs and turn them into rectangular pixels, losing some of the information that was present in the film. Upscaling the video doesn’t recreate the lost information, but rescanning the film at a higher resolution can absolutely capture more of the information from the film.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @05:23AM (#47033301)
Everything with CGI or other visual effects is upscaled from SD.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by moomin on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:58AM (#47013234)
It’s partly that JMS favoured stage actors. Partly that he grabbed a number of his favourite actors from “Murder She Wrote”. Honestly brilliant, taking a couple of murderers of the week and giving them lead roles in a show.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by Telemakhos on Saturday February 14, 2026 @08:49AM (#47014516)
There's more to this line of thought. The pilot movie isn't space opera so much as it is a murder mystery in space, and it's not the only episode like that. The security chief, Garibaldi, is a hard-bitten alcoholic detective from film noir (and there are plenty of film-noir-like visual elements: fans, shadows, run-down industrial sectors unimaginable in Star Trek), and he plays a much larger role solving crimes than do his counterparts in other science fiction shows. The writing style, a long arc that drops clues up front to pay off in revelations down the line, also leans heavily on mystery writing.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by bjackman on Saturday February 14, 2026 @05:22AM (#47013361)
I think weird acting styles can be part of the joy of watching older media. Seems like films mostly switched over to "modern" acting in the 70s (?) and TV had a lot more variety in style (and quality lol) way up into the "modern era".

I'm not gonna say "it's not worse it's just different", coz TBH... It's worse lol. If modern acting was a rare minority style of practice I would seek it out voraciously. But, for the variety I do think it's fun to watch old stuff too!

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by throwaway2046 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @12:24PM (#47016327)
> Seems like films mostly switched over to "modern" acting in the 70s

Can you elaborate on this point? I think I agree with you, I just don't know why.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by bjackman on Saturday February 14, 2026 @01:26PM (#47016953)
I was hesitant to make any concrete claims in my comment since I don't know much about it but I _think_ this is basically about The Method i.e. Method Acting.

From what I understand, although people still talk about it as if it's a specialised or niche thing, it's actually basically just how acting is done nowadays (at least for films and in the west).

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by st_goliath on Saturday February 14, 2026 @07:08AM (#47013931)
> I just found the acting in the first season really, "soap opera" like. I'm not sure how to describe it better.

When I first started watching, season 1 with its gratuitous 90s CGI, the dramatic musical cues, and Michael O'Hares rather stiff, wooden demeanor reminded me a lot of those live action cut scenes that some early CD-ROM games had. I remember thinking at first, that this is probably the kind of thing the local basement theater troupe would pull off if they were suddenly told to make a TV show.

> It's still one of my all time favorite shows.

Fully agree. If you haven't seen it yet, I'd highly recommend as well.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by prmoustache on Saturday February 14, 2026 @08:26AM (#47014358)
Do we really need to upscale everything?

I don't think image quality really is an important thing to enjoy old movies / series as long as the story is good.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by driscoll42 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @08:28AM (#47014381)
While I agree, there's plenty of people who refuse to watch anything that's not sharp. I think there's room for both to exist, just clearly labeled as "original" and "AI Upscaled to 4K"
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by wartywhoa23 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @08:48AM (#47014512)
Just wait, they'll soon demand that their favorite soap operas be AI-restarted to generate slop streams indefinitely, and will throw their hard-sat-on-a-sofa UBI credits at that.

- Hey, have you watched that Game of Thrones S1723E1122?

- Nope, I'm not paying until they upscale it to 64K!

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by crtasm on Saturday February 14, 2026 @11:54AM (#47016048)
Give me new Nothing, Forever in 480p and I'll be a happy man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Forever

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by Silhouette on Saturday February 14, 2026 @12:34PM (#47016416)
If you watch the popular streaming services on a Linux PC then you'll be lucky to get more than 720p and some only seem to provide SD anyway - even for content from the HD era. This despite obviously having access to more detailed versions that they'll serve you for the same money if you watch on one of their preferred platforms.

IME this becomes quite jarring if you're watching on a modern high-res screen - even something like a quarter-sized browser window or PIP on a 4K monitor - with other much sharper content visible nearby. If you're watching either full-screen or in a smaller window but without other more detailed visuals around it then personally I find it less jarring and I can still become immersed if the material itself is good. It's still noticeable if you're used to watching HD or 4K content on other devices but I'd rather watch something good in SD than not watch it. The same goes for old shows that were only made in SD originally.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by prmoustache on Sunday February 15, 2026 @08:32PM (#47029835)
I am using a projector. Definitely not as sharp as a 4K and higher TV but it makes for a huge screen since I am covering almost all the wall. I find the result smooth and enjoyable regardless of the input resolution.

In other words, immersion seems to be more important than precision/resolution.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @05:20AM (#47033279)
If you are watching in in a window / PIP then clearly you don't actually care that much about the looks since you are not even devoting your full attention to them.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tracker1 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:54AM (#47014966)
Honestly if it were some with live models even at SD it wouldn't be so bad... I just find it's from a time that's kind of painful to watch... Much like Transformers: Beast Wars.

I enjoy the story, but the FX are IMO literally worse than pre-60s serial Sci-fi content. The blurry, low res CGI just detracts from the show today. I'm not asking for a reboot or change of the material marathon... Just the special effects and CGI to what it should have been at the time.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by duxup on Friday February 13, 2026 @08:38PM (#47010506)
It's great how many of those little important things there are and foreshadowing ... and yet a great deal of surprises, sub plots, a characters go in some surprising directions.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by chasil on Saturday February 14, 2026 @03:51AM (#47012864)
The primary thing to know is that the actor who played Sinclair in season one, Michael O'Hare, suffered from mental illness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Hare

His treatments were only partially successful. He reappeared in a cameo appearance early in season two ("The Coming of Shadows") and returned in season three for a two-part episode ("War Without End") which closed his character's story arc. At that time, Straczynski promised O'Hare to keep his condition secret "to my grave". O'Hare told him to instead "keep the secret to my grave", arguing that fans deserved to eventually learn the real reason for his departure, and that his experience could raise awareness and understanding for people with mental illness. He made no further appearances on Babylon 5 but continued to support the show and appeared at conventions and signing events until his retirement from public appearances in 2000.

On September 28, 2012, Straczynski posted that O'Hare had had a heart attack in New York City five days earlier and had remained in a coma until his death that day.[48] Eight months later, Straczynski revealed the circumstances of O'Hare's departure from Babylon 5 at a presentation about the series at the Phoenix Comicon.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by chasil on Saturday February 14, 2026 @03:54AM (#47012883)
Claudia Christian, who played Susan Ivanova, is also well known for her documentary on alcohol addiction.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=crYU4xT1aRI

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by TiredOfLife on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:04AM (#47012932)
It would be easier to list b5 actors without drug or alcohol issues.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by chasil on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:18AM (#47013000)
Look at what she has to say.

It is of profound significance.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by normie3000 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @05:16AM (#47013333)
You've linked to a 50+ minute video. Is it recommending naltrexone for alcoholism?
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by chasil on Saturday February 14, 2026 @05:28AM (#47013386)
It is, after the well-known book by Roy Eskapa.

https://www.amazon.com/Cure-Alcoholism-Willpower-Abstinence-...

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by jostylr on Saturday February 14, 2026 @12:51PM (#47016605)
There is also Katie Herzog's recent memoir/guidebook on it: https://www.amazon.com/Drink-Your-Way-Sober-Science-Based/dp...
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by danaris on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:44AM (#47013147)
And sadly, so many of the main cast are no longer with us—far more than one would expect from their ages.

I know that some of them, indeed, died due to substance abuse issues; I don't know the circumstances of all of them. They will all be greatly missed.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by RobotToaster on Saturday February 14, 2026 @07:56AM (#47014192)
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by danaris on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:51AM (#47014943)
Indeed—and Mira Furlan died just a few years ago, at 65.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by chasil on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:57AM (#47013233)
In the lingo of the show, they have "gone beyond the rim" (of our galaxy).
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by danaris on Saturday February 14, 2026 @06:21AM (#47013626)
And we will see them again in the place where no shadows fall.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by Findecanor on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:02AM (#47014606)
Being a B5 fan, I found it heart-breaking to see Jeff Conaway on the reality show Celebrity Rehab a decade later. (the fact that there even existed a TV show called "Celebrity Rehab" ...)

Too many others of the main cast had died relatively young, of "natural causes" though. Richard Biggs, Mira Furlan and Stephen Furst stand out.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by sandworm101 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @10:07AM (#47015059)
They are actors, young people paid to display exaggerated emotion while living in a world that values youth and appearance over everything. Then we ask them to constantly adopt new characters and shower them with on-again off-again false praise based on whether or not they are working on a given day. Frankly, i am impressed that any of them manage to walk away without profound mental health issues.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by thaumasiotes on Saturday February 14, 2026 @10:15AM (#47015120)
> Frankly, i am impressed that any of them manage to walk away without profound mental health issues.

My impression is that there's not much causation from being an actor to mental fragility. It's the other way around; the pool of people who make good actors is already prone to mental fragility before they become actors.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by TiredOfLife on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:05AM (#47012938)
Could you list more spoilers!?
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by chasil on Saturday February 14, 2026 @04:36AM (#47013108)
If you want to know something about the series, then ask.

I will upvote you now.

Edit: Vir waves.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by largbae on Saturday February 14, 2026 @01:03PM (#47016718)
The Vorlons are really a_____!
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by nobody9999 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @10:10PM (#47020691)
>The Vorlons are really a_____!

If you believe the actors on the DVD alternate commentary tracks, a Wurlitzer!

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @04:51AM (#47033045)
A bunch of cunts, yes.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by YinglingHeavy on Saturday February 14, 2026 @06:04AM (#47013541)
* 02/22/1993 Jeffrey Epstein obtains Zorro Ranch from King

* 02/22/1993 Jeffrey SINclair: Babylon 5 debut

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"Something as big as Epstein’s operation starting up will usually have comms sent marking it.

This show explains a likely “intent” of why Epstein was allowed to meet and interact in suspect ways with so many important political and business people.

It clarifies the affiliation of Epstein. Note his (O'Hare) date of birth being as the world signed agreement to cooperate at CERN.

So let’s go through the show and we may just gleam a heck of a lot about intent. Note the pilot being about clearing Jeffrey Sinclairs name of suspicion of murder.

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He was removed after the first season due to mental health issues. Meaning he went off the rails for at least some of the people who agreed to back him. Therefore we cannot assume anything Jeffrey Epstein did after 1994 with children was approved by all sides. On the contrary, this disagreement suggests at least some of the parties initially on board had strongly changed their mind about him once they saw what he was doing.

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The way MK ops work is hidden, like a submarine that surfaces only when it’s time to attack. If one person dies there isn’t necessarily clearly understood of who pulled the string, and even when it is the way it works is specifically designed to be unpunishable. This seems to be the point of what Epstein was greenlit to do.

Finding who is tied to past murders. Create Leverage to prevent more murders of those participating in truce."

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday February 14, 2026 @06:41AM (#47013745)
This is the first loony conspiracy theory I’ve seen posted on HN
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by YinglingHeavy on Saturday February 14, 2026 @07:07AM (#47013923)
You never forget your first.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tiberious726 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @05:14PM (#47018941)
Still trying to figure out how it's related to B5
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by gspetr on Saturday February 14, 2026 @10:44AM (#47015360)
You should delete the spoilers. O'Hare's personal history is important, but the part of the comment about his chronological appearances in the show is not.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by jghn on Saturday February 14, 2026 @01:18PM (#47016885)
Talking about a show that aired 30 years ago isn't "spoilers". Anyone who wanted to not be spoiled has had plenty of time to go rectify that situation by now.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by pavel_lishin on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:12PM (#47020435)
> Anyone who wanted to not be spoiled has had plenty of time to go rectify that situation by now.

Unless they're a young person hearing about this show for the first time, here.

It's wildly unkind to suggest that just because you know the big plot twists, everyone else should as well.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by jghn on Saturday February 14, 2026 @10:58PM (#47020917)
At some point there needs to be a statute of limitations on this stuff. In general I find spoiler fanatics kind of silly anyways: if I don't want something spoiled I don't read online discourse about that thing. It's my responsibility. But whatever.

But let's suppose I *did* care about spoilers. I shouldn't be expecting everyone to walk on eggshells when they're discussing Gunsmoke or Happy Days.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @04:49AM (#47033030)
Eh, being mentally prepared for his sudden departure in Season 2 is not the worst thing. This isn't something he writers intended as a plot twist after all.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by ndsipa_pomu on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:38AM (#47014859)
I believe B5 was the first sci-fi show to do this kind of multi-season story arc. For all the poor acting and filler episodes, it is still hugely influential.
Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by tomkarho on Sunday February 15, 2026 @04:23AM (#47022305)
Kind of. What is an interesting topic of debate is that B5 aired at the same time with Deep Space 9 (pilots were released a month apart). DS9 switched out the "adventure of the week" formula from Star Trek for a long form storytelling and it is fought over to this day if one copied from another.

B5 is known for the fact JMS had a full five year arch planned from the start (due to O'Hare's unfortunate state of mind he was forced to pivot with Boxleitner as well as season 4-5 got gutted for other reasons) but I can't recall if DS9 had similar aspirations from the get go or if they eased into it as the story progressed. For comparison: was the Dominion War in the cards all the way from episode 1 or did it come into play later?

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by ndsipa_pomu on Sunday February 15, 2026 @05:26AM (#47022639)
For some reason, I didn't watch DS9 at the time, though I've watched all the other Treks and am a big fan - must have been shown at the wrong time for me or something. However, DS9 only had the dominion arc in the last three seasons, so I'm definitely in the B5 was first camp.

What I find fascinating is that JMS wrote in all kinds of escape hatches for if major characters left and of course, there's the time travelling shenanigans that are shown in season 1, but not resolved to much later which show just how planned out it was. Of course his 5 season arc was tied up in 4 seasons when the studios threatened to cancel the 5th season, and then when they changed their mind, it led to a somewhat tacked on season 5 as the main story had been resolved.

It seems like a common factor of having a static space stations that lends itself well to story arcs. The other Treks were based on exploration, so they make sense to reset each episode as they travel to a new region.

Re:Babylon 5 Is Now Free to Watch on YouTube by account42 on Monday February 16, 2026 @05:29AM (#47033359)
> It seems like a common factor of having a static space stations that lends itself well to story arcs. The other Treks were based on exploration, so they make sense to reset each episode as they travel to a new region.

I think it's more a industry trends thing - Voyager also had longer story arcs as did many other sci-fi series released after B5.