The other version in the West is he moves to rural Montana and sends bombs through the mail.
There might be a middle ground between the two?
I think that if you tried you could imagine a world where Ramanujans are both supported and respected with nice lives, while also contributing to the future of the species rather than helping dig our own grave.
> The other version in the West is he moves to rural Montana and sends bombs through the mail.
Why in the world would those be the only two options?? What a profoundly strange thing to say.
That brilliant geniuses have chosen corporate America and to not go into academia is yours and mine and the world's loss, but a defining feature of the Western world is that they get to make that choice for themselves.
... As if people outside the West have no self-determination? Pretty questionable, on multiple levels. And another indication of absurdly binary thinking/rhetoric. Good luck with that.
Einstein made a few extremely valuable insights in theoretical physics, but I'd say the sheer breadth of comparable work that Von Neumann did across multiple fields makes him more outstanding.
I for one would ask him what we could do to make it easier for him to listen to the voice of god(s) rather than say "well akshually..."
I'm not sure there's much you can do to help someone at this level, other than perhaps take away outside distractions.
It's not remotely clear how Ramanujan's mind worked, or whether he really knew himself. He seems to have been a lot more highly functioning than an idiot savant, but still operating at a level that is hard to comprehend. Was this an expression of humility or devotion by Ramanujan, or was he just expressing his own lack of understanding of how his mind worked?
Feynmann, like von Neumann, also seems more approachable/understandable in that he wasn't just operating at genius level, but was also a regular fun loving guy (strip clubs, bongo drums, safe hacking and all). Von Neumann and some of his Hungarian peers were famously referred to as "The Martians", but it's really Ramanujan who seems like the alien.
It was intended to apply to oneself, but seems just as true when appreciating the genius of others. No need to diminish von Neumann, etc., AND doing so just diminishes your own credibility.
“I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.” ~ Stephen Jay Gould
This is a late missionary-colonial myth that has been "secularized" by the South-Asia studies dept. in their eternal pursuit of destroying Indian civilization. The British, thankfully, judiciously collected records to prove that this is a big fat lie.
In fact, their records not only show that most village schools were majorly filled with 'Shudras', but also that the equivalent of 'grad-schools' had 'Shudra' teachers.
Hardly surprising since Aryabhata, perhaps a greater Mathematician, and the progenitor of Calculus itself, was one of the said 'Shudras' (atleast certainly not a "evil dirty hook-nosed" Brahmin).
Fascinating though how the cunning Jew meme lives on in so many ways... The Nazi-esque DMK that runs Tamil Nadu was very fond of this as well, and wanted to massacre his tribe too like the Nazis (except ofc. when so-called 'paapans' are great well-known folks like Ramanujan, or say the CEO/CTOs of Google). Unsuprisingly, avowed Nazis like this (there are enough records of the founder being a great admirer of Hitler and of his 'final-solution' - after WW2 ended), like in Ukraine are great friends of the Western establishment.
Also, a cursory search on internet doesn't brings anything conclusive about Aryabhata being a Shudra.
Who are you referring to, specifically?
Basically a propaganda piece, designed to push your buttons. And not surprisingly, published originally in RT.
That is funny how russians claim everyone of their enemy is a Nazi.
While real white supremacists with swastika tattoos are fighting in the Russian side, just to have an opportunity to make money while doing atrocities.
This is similar to another popular narrative that no girl received an education until some sympathetic Englishman in partnership with a local woman allowed girls to go to school. What a load of BS.
But people in the upper classes don't like that, so they're telling working class people that people even worse off are after their jobs.
Tall claim.
[1] https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674987883 [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India
If you mix populations with different mean IQ together, you get an average. And then you get fewer people with exceptionally high IQ like Ramanujan, because IQ is approximately normally distributed. Even a small difference in means makes a large difference at the tails.
> People from a higher caste tend to have higher IQ,
>> People from a higher caste tend to have better access to resources,
also a >Mankind Quarterly, a known fringe Far-right Racist publication.
for fellow readers see [1]
Access to resources does not screen off the correlation between IQ and various measures of performance.
> also a >Mankind Quarterly, a known fringe Far-right Racist publication.
Far-left journalists and Wikipedia authors call it that because, according to them, diagnosing any difference in IQ between populations is automatically "far-right racist". But that's circular reasoning. It's like saying: "You can't trust those sources saying there are population differences in IQ because those sources are racist and they are racist because they are saying there are population differences in IQ."
i'll also assume that you wouldn't perform very well in the intelligence metric you're so fond of.
If you had any reading comprehension yourself, you'd notice they don't cite any evidence from non-left leaning sources. It's like reading an article about climate change on conservapedia.
> i'll also assume that you wouldn't perform very well in the intelligence metric you're so fond of
ad hominem
I know more than 3 people in the US, who talk about caste all the time (as in that's their job now) but grew up in very privileged families.
Not True.
The book [1] documents evidences from the revenue records of the early British Administration in India on the state of education in the late 1700s through the 1800s up until the early 1900s. These records show that India had a well established grassroots education system at the village level, with access to children from all walks of the society including female students. The subjects taught included - Grammar, Lexicology, Poetry, Drama & Religious History, Rhetoric, Mathematics, Astronomy and Astrology, Logic, Law, Medical texts etc., As per the records and communication from the administrators, almost all villages had access to such schools.
[1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17931651-the-beautiful-t...
Ramanujan succeeded in spite of it, not because of the favors of the British. Imagine how many Ramanujans were ignored due to 200 years of British colonial rule in India, wherein caste system developed and thrived*
The following books have a good overview of education&caste in india.
A. L. Basham, The Wonder That Was India
Gail Omvedt, Understanding Caste
These are not surveys. These are actual full data from the erstwhile British Administration’s revenue records with the data collected by each Provincial head and the District administration revenue collectors and officials at that time. The modus operandi of the data collection is also detailed in the book.
Ramanujan short life itself is a loss to the world, Imagine how many Ramanujan's were ignored where there is no G.H. Hardy and what about Ramanujans in the other 95%?