Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by tomp on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:06PM
(#41724525)
Why would this make any sense?
const myDiv = div(
{id: 'container', className: 'my-class'},
h1('Hello World'),
p('This is a dynamically generated paragraph.')
);
document.body.appendChild(myDiv);
That's completely unnecessary these days with template strings. It's gonna be much faster as well to use browser's native parsing.
const div = document.createElement('div');
let text = 'This is a dynamically generated paragraph';
div.innerHTML = `
<div id="container" class="my-class">
<h1>Hello world</h1>
<p>${text}</p>
</div>
`;
document.body.append(...div.children);
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by franciscop on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:11PM
(#41724562)
One big difference and why I've been experimenting with JSX[1] is that in that example, if the `text` comes from an untrusted source it can lead to XSS, which TinyJS prevents (I checked)!
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by Nickersf on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:35PM
(#41724739)
This is exactly what I was thinking. I'm always trying to have fewer third-party dependencies in my codebase no matter how tiny, especially if it's solving problems that already have platform/system native solutions.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by TimTheTinker on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:51PM
(#41724867)
Generally, I would recommend avoiding directly setting the innerHTML property, since it's vulnerable to XSS and other injection attacks. If you do, make sure you HTML-escape each variable you interpolate.
Here's a way to do that with a tagged template function (named it `htmlFragment` to make it super clear what it's for):
// a couple of functions to help
const sanitizeHTML = (unsafeStr) => {
const div = document.createElement('div');
div.textContent = unsafeStr;
return div.innerHTML;
};
const htmlFragment = (fragments, ...variables) => {
const result = variables.map((variable, i) => fragments[i] + sanitizeHTML(variable));
result.push(fragments[fragments.length-1]);
return result.join('');
};
// updated your code here
const div = document.createElement('div');
let text = 'This is a dynamically generated paragraph';
div.innerHTML = htmlFragment`
<div id="container" class="my-class">
<h1>Hello world</h1>
<p>${text}</p>
</div>
`;
document.body.append(...div.children);
Unfortunately, to my knowledge there isn't yet a close-to-the-metal solution for templating and data binding in HTML/JS, although several proposals are currently being discussed.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by mendyberger on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:15PM
(#41724589)
Code is actually tiny. Impressive!
You could make it even smaller by removing all the element names, and just have it be passed in as an argument.
Would also reduce the amount of functions you need to declare, though function count is likely not a problem for modern JS engines.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by 123yawaworht456 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @03:36PM
(#41724291)
may I ask what's the point of `const tagNames =`? removing it would make no difference, as far as I can tell - just make sure the previous line ends with a semicolon (or add it at the same line as the opening square bracket)
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by henriquez on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @04:04PM
(#41724511)
You didn’t need a library to do this. Just alias document.querySelector and document.querySelectorAll to something shorter. Polluting the global namespace with functions to document.createElement on every possible html tag is not a good idea.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by CSSer on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @03:45PM
(#41724363)
Calling those $ and $$ selector helper functions new is a bit disingenuous. They’ve been present as Chrome dev tools shortcuts for years. Let alone JQuery, I’ve also spent years seeing little articles about this neat trick on everything from medium to dev.to.
I recommend the author remove that or note inspiration from the README to avoid detracting from the rest of the work. I realize there’s more here than the traditional document.querySelector.bind(document) assignment.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by alexjplant on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @03:44PM
(#41724356)
jQuery II: The Quickening!
I recently built a toy Golang SSR project using Zepto, a jQuery-like library, and felt like I was 17 again (*EDIT it's unmaintained - don't use it). Also of note is that "Highlander II" takes place in the year 2024 [1]. It's a sign! Everything old is new again! `$` is immortal!
When using TypeScript the types for querySelectorAll are a bit hairy to map but by defining the consts like above the types "just work".
for (const tag of $$<HTMLParagraphElement>("p")) ...
I don't use Array.from in the result of $$ because sometimes creating an Array is not necessary. The NodeList returned can be iterated directly or converted to an array later if really needed:
[...$$("p")].map(p => ...)
Since I use TypeScript I lean on TSX for building HTML. I use preact's render-to-string package to convert it to a string [1].
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by akira2501 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @05:18PM
(#41725060)
I've been using this for years:
const $id = new Proxy({}, {
// get element from cache, or from DOM
get: (tgt, k, r) => (tgt[k] || ((r = document.getElementById(k)) && (tgt[k] = r))),
// prevent programming errors
set: () => $throw(`Attempt to overwrite id cache key!`)
});
It's nice to be able to refer to elements by property name, so:
<div id="thing"></div>
Is reachable with:
$id.thing
And, since the underlying structure is just an object, you can still enumerate it with Object.keys, which can sometimes be a useful debugging aid and general catalog of accessed elements.
Anyways.. Proxy is a wildly underappreciated and used class in JavaScript.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by sli on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @07:11PM
(#41725767)
I built a Proxy-based microlib for making fluent REST calls just on a lark a couple years ago. It was never anything production-ready, but it was so handy that I used it in all of my JS projects until I moved away from webdev. The API was basically:
const api = new Proxy({route: baseRoute}, handler); // handler is the microlib's export
const result = await api.get.some.route.invoke(); // GET {baseRoute}/some/route
invoke() is just how it finally fires the call. I didn't feel like spending too much time making it automatic, the benefits just weren't large enough to justify compared to just calling invoke().
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by akira2501 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @06:39PM
(#41725590)
It used to more in the past.
The native call does usually include a cache and will use it optimistically; however, the strategies around invalidating this cache are varied and some surprisingly basic DOM actions can trigger it. Then browsers usually fallback to the full DOM query case.
The cache eliminates this variability, which prior to flexbox, could be very useful in highly nested site designs particularly in mobile contexts.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by akira2501 on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @06:27PM
(#41725522)
My fault, I tend to "rapid fire" sometimes. Yours was next to another reply on the identical subject and that caused me to mistake the meaning of the comma in your sentence.
Reading it more slowly, I see it now, and, thank you!
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by akira2501 on Thursday October 03, 2024 @04:28AM
(#41728499)
A call to `$id.toString` actually yields the native unbound function whether or not there is such an element on the page. So get is not invoked in this case.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by benabus on Wednesday October 02, 2024 @08:56PM
(#41726335)
I remember when we would throw this into our utilities.js scripts back in like 2007. We didn't have querySelector yet, though. We'd also walk to school with no shoes, in the snow, uphill, both ways.
Re:TinyJS – Shorten JavaScript QuerySelect with $ and $$
by 1GZ0 on Thursday October 03, 2024 @06:22AM
(#41729201)
I wrote my first jQuery lite selector clone a bit ago, any feedback would be appreciated, especially since I don't see the need to separate out querySelector & querySelectorAll
[1] https://x.com/FPresencia/status/1838176000267452704
[1]: https://lit.dev/docs/v1/lit-html/introduction/
Here's a way to do that with a tagged template function (named it `htmlFragment` to make it super clear what it's for):
Unfortunately, to my knowledge there isn't yet a close-to-the-metal solution for templating and data binding in HTML/JS, although several proposals are currently being discussed.I'm hoping for this one:
https://github.com/WICG/webcomponents/issues/1069
From the MDN page:
> When inserting HTML into a page by using insertAdjacentHTML(), be careful not to use user input that hasn't been escaped.
``` const myButton = button({ onclick: e => console.log(e), textContent: "Click me" }) ```
You could make it even smaller by removing all the element names, and just have it be passed in as an argument. Would also reduce the amount of functions you need to declare, though function count is likely not a problem for modern JS engines.
Anyway, great job you did there!
Using "$" to shorten JavaScript? That seems a lot like jQuery.
> This README was generated by ChatGPT
You don't need AI to explain this one.
` window.$ = document.querySelector.bind(document) window.$$ = document.querySelectorAll.bind(document) `
edit: how about this so you can use array functions too when you need?
window.$ = document.querySelector.bind(document);
window.$$ = document.querySelectorAll.bind(document);
window.$$$ = (selector) => Array.from(document.querySelectorAll(selector));
That's a reason to never use this imo.
There are plenty of other jquery-lite helper libraries out there. 95 percent the utility with hardly any cost in terms of script size.
Converting querySelectorAll to an array is honestly most of the benefit of these libraries.
Now that NodeList is iterable, I don't even know that converting to an array is that useful anymore.
[...document.querySelector('div')] is pretty easy.
Iterator.from(document.querySelector('div')) too (doesn't work yet in Safari).
Damn good README. Also, good library.
A readme should be more reference / show and less drivel.
I recommend the author remove that or note inspiration from the README to avoid detracting from the rest of the work. I realize there’s more here than the traditional document.querySelector.bind(document) assignment.
[0] https://blog.jquery.com/2024/07/17/second-beta-of-jquery-4-0...
I recently built a toy Golang SSR project using Zepto, a jQuery-like library, and felt like I was 17 again (*EDIT it's unmaintained - don't use it). Also of note is that "Highlander II" takes place in the year 2024 [1]. It's a sign! Everything old is new again! `$` is immortal!
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlander_II:_The_Quickening
https://umbrellajs.com/
https://www.bennadel.com/blog/4184-replacing-jquery-110kb-wi...
jQuery proper is both maintained and has actively been working on a 4.0 release and still gets security and bug fixes
"There can be only one"
---
1: https://github.com/preactjs/preact-render-to-string
JS keeps amazing me. It reminds me of Perl somehow. If Perl and Lua had a child, with some browsers APIs sprinkled on top.
Anyways.. Proxy is a wildly underappreciated and used class in JavaScript.
You can use it like:
demo: https://codepen.io/anon/pen/RxGgNR`api.some.route.get()`
[1] https://elysiajs.com/eden/treaty/overview.html
The native call does usually include a cache and will use it optimistically; however, the strategies around invalidating this cache are varied and some surprisingly basic DOM actions can trigger it. Then browsers usually fallback to the full DOM query case.
The cache eliminates this variability, which prior to flexbox, could be very useful in highly nested site designs particularly in mobile contexts.
https://github.com/MrLeap/Statsi
Edit: My tone may have indicated that parent's solution was brittle. It's not!
The reason to have a separate system that correctly calls getElementById() is to avoid this issue.
So, it's actually a _less_ brittle mechanism that doesn't rely on legacy mechanisms and lacks the surprises that come with that.
But I do think the legacy browser behavior with the ID attribute as window properties is very brittle for the reasons you suggest
Reading it more slowly, I see it now, and, thank you!
> Porffor is a unique JS engine/compiler/runtime, compiling JS code to WebAssembly or native ahead-of-time.
Show HN: Tiny JS – A Tiny JavaScript Library for Easy DOM Creation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41462817 - Sept 2024 (4 comments)
Show HN: A better way of writing HTML via JavaScript? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41451559 - Sept 2024 (9 comments)
Kind of cool if this is what you need.
I think the discussion here seems to be about one or the other, not the thing as a whole.
Nowadays I tend to use Mithril instead, because immediate-mode UI is so much less hassle than retained-mode: https://mithril.js.org/
``` const $ = (param) => { if (typeof param === "string" || param instanceof String) { const elm = document.querySelectorAll(param); return elm.length > 1 ? elm : document.querySelector(param); } else { return [param].length === 1 ? [param][0] : [param]; } }; ```