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Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Friday August 23, 2024 @11:59AM (#41330098)
I'm really surprised this list doesn't contain any of the big names I'm using. In fact I've never heard of any of these sites.

I'm using many of the book sites and general torrent ones (I won't name them here), but none of these are on the list.

I also think the point is kinda moot because everyone doing torrents in Germany will already use VPN because it's only a matter of time before you get serious letters from lawyers there, demanding about 400 euro per move they've seen you download. ISPs always cooperate in giving subscriber info for each IP. Some lawyer firms actually specialise in this and go after downloaders on their own.

I wonder if they leave the big torrent sites out to provide income for these lawyers?

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by sudobash1 on Friday August 23, 2024 @12:19PM (#41330298)
Ot of curiosity, how does this work? If a site is over https, then the only information I would think the ISP would have is the subscriber downloaded from randompiratesite.xyz what seems to be a single X GiB file. They could see that the size roughly corresponds to FooBar.mp4 on that site (plus some HTTP headers). But this seems pretty unreliable. (Like what if someone was using a download manager to get multiple large files at once, using multiple download streams per file?)

I'm sure that you can get in plenty of trouble for downloading a ton of data from randompiratesite.xyz or whatever, but how the ISP determine the number of movies they've seen you download?

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by loeg on Friday August 23, 2024 @12:50PM (#41330596)
> If a site is over https, then the only information I would think the ISP would have is the subscriber downloaded from randompiratesite.xyz what seems to be a single X GiB file

That isn't how torrent sites work. You visit site.xyz and download a .torrent file in the realm of 10s-100s (typically) of kB and that contains some metadata that a dedicated torrent client consumes. The torrent client connects to (1) some tracker via http (or https, but usually http) which may or may not be associated with the site the .torrent came from, to register as part of the swarm, and (2) any number of peer torrent clients. The actual data (X GiB) transfer comes from those peers; not the original site.xyz nor the tracker.

ISPs can observe DNS lookups / connections to site.xyz; tracker "announces" (that's (1) above), especially if they are http. And even the peer-to-peer traffic has a distinct protocol which is recognizable with packet inspection. But the main avenue for finding offenders, I believe, is just downloading the same .torrents for some specific copyrighted content and using the torrents' associated tracker(s) to enumerate swarm peer IP addresses.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Hypnosis6173 on Friday August 23, 2024 @01:09PM (#41330793)
Thats not how piracy in germany works. Torrenting for german content is quite uncommon. Normally the pages either point to sites hosting a streamabale version of the video content or point to a external file hoster (e.g. Rapidgator).
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by loeg on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:09PM (#41332647)
This thread[1] is talking about torrents in particular.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41330098

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by bonoboTP on Friday August 23, 2024 @03:41PM (#41332369)
> Torrenting for german content is quite uncommon.

Obviously, because, as the chain of comments above your shows, torrent users are easily caught and get fined to hundreds of euros per downloaded movie. Then they stop using torrent and tell all their friends about the experience. This has been going on for more than a decade, maybe two. So by now, German culture has adapted and people don't use torrents.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by yokaze on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:15PM (#41333935)
You don't get fined for downloading, you get cease-and-desist with a fine (?) from a lawyer representing the copyright owner for uploading.

Downloading copyrighted is not illegal, offering is.

You could try to argue technicalities in court, but that'll probably exceed the hundreds of Euro the copyright owner demands.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Ray20 on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:28PM (#41334018)
Downloading via torrents by default implies distribution (from technical point of view).
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by threecheese on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:40PM (#41334104)
My understanding is that one can download without seeding/uploading; is this inaccurate?
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by yardstick on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:59PM (#41334239)
You are correct.

Years ago I did exactly this by modifying my client to never seed/share, and also to fake my reported sharing stats so the private trackers wouldn’t boot me for failing to share.

Those were the days.

Now, I no longer fear the ISP or copyright holder chasing me (seems ISPS and laws moved on where I am) and don’t bother with modifications any more.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by treyd on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:51AM (#41344483)
> also to fake my reported sharing stats so the private trackers wouldn’t boot me for failing to share.

This would very quickly be identified by private trackers these days because the stats don't line up with your peers and earn you a permaban.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by bonoboTP on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:45PM (#41334142)
Since the whole system relies on people seeding, even if this may be possible technically, clients don't tend to support it as a feature.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by yardstick on Friday August 23, 2024 @08:01PM (#41334252)
There are some services where you send a torrent file/magnet link and it’ll download the file for you, so you can download over HTTPS. I believe those particular services intentionally don’t reseed.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by loeg on Friday August 23, 2024 @08:58PM (#41334602)
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by mediumsmart on Saturday August 24, 2024 @12:51AM (#41335748)
The cease and desist fine (about 900 euros these days) is what the lawyer wants. Max return on investment for a single letter. You don’t have to react to this letter which will bring about the second letter with the generous offer to pay less, this repeats until around 340 Euro are reached.

Then you may get a court order that states what the lawyer accuses you of and this you have to react to. The court just states this and gives you 2 checkboxes. If you check the one saying “I reject the accusation completely” the lawyer needs to decide. He invested some 40 euros into the court order but going to court is a different ballgame and not his main business model so they have to weigh the chances.

The owner of the router that the file went through is responsible for access to the router. Since the owner has so far not said anything to his Defence there is a possibility that multiple people including family members had access to the router and the lawyer might, in court, be presented with a list of people and their addresses which satisfies the defendants task to erschütter the accusation for the court and leave the lawyer with the option to figure out whodunnit or rather who in the list is going to fold and pay.

This is really not his business model. That said they do go to court and people get sentenced to pay the fine.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by rrr_oh_man on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:12PM (#41340651)
That's a very technical nitpick — GP's general point ('Obviously, because, as the chain of comments above your shows, torrent users are easily caught and get fined to hundreds of euros per downloaded movie.') stands.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by looperhacks on Friday August 23, 2024 @03:51PM (#41332480)
You are downvoted, but from my experience, you are pretty correct. Most people I know will use a streaming site, then sharehosters (good old boerse comes to mind - Megaupload, Rapidshare and Uploaded were the big hosters I remember)

I even know of more people using Usenet then torrents! The amount of work to use torrents safely just isn't worth it for most people.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by tourmalinetaco on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:10PM (#41332660)
They are downvoted because it was an obvious and low-quality statement, as another comment outlined. Torrents publicly expose IPs and thus can be seen by copyright Nazis, but streaming/direct downloading has so far been safe.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:17PM (#41340695)
True but it is possible for them to capture one of these sites and go through the logs to check for IPs. So it would be best to use these with a VPN also.

I'm not aware of this having happened for movie downloading but it has happened to data breach forums, the police in Holland have contacted some downloaders there after they took down a platform (raidforums): https://tweakers.net/nieuws/208638/politie-mailt-duizenden-n... (in Dutch, sorry)

So it's not unprecedented and certainly within the legal realm of possibility even though this is a different country.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:16PM (#41340679)
> The amount of work to use torrents safely just isn't worth it for most people.

Using a VPN isn't a lot of work really? And that's more than sufficient. It does cost a bit of money but so does a good Usenet server.

The problem with Usenet is the DMCA takedowns so you have to be really quick these days, after a day the content is gone.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Friday August 23, 2024 @12:23PM (#41330329)
It's not the sites, it's torrenting. Without a VPN, they get your IP, and you are on the hook for "commercial distribution" (as clients also upload) unless you pay X00 euros.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by rurban on Friday August 23, 2024 @12:45PM (#41330547)
Private torrenting is certainly not commercial distribution.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Friday August 23, 2024 @12:48PM (#41330572)
Tell that to our courts ;)
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by gruez on Friday August 23, 2024 @01:02PM (#41330709)
Commercial distribution isn't the only way you can violate copyrights
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Friday August 23, 2024 @01:08PM (#41330775)
Just violating copyright wouldn't really matter. Damages would be tiny, and so would be what the lawyers can blackmail you for. It's being on the hook for the damages of distribution that gets the high fees.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:54PM (#41333019)
Please tell me what's wrong about my comment instead of blindly downvoting, thank you.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by throwaway48540 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @02:33AM (#41336119)
It's simply not true, from my personal experience. Who cares it's tiny when it's still more than I want or can pay.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:24AM (#41336304)
You have personal experience with being sued for downloading without distribution in Germany?
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by throwaway48540 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @11:44AM (#41339042)
I wasn't sued at the end of it, but nearly. Had to pay few hundred euro. Still sucked.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Saturday August 24, 2024 @11:52PM (#41344235)
Huh, that is super interesting, are you 100% certain it wasn’t torrents and thus including distribution? Hundreds of euros is crazy, that’s what people pay for distribution.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by throwaway48540 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @03:25AM (#41345198)
Violating copyright means distribution - giving out copies without the right to do so.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by rurban on Sunday August 25, 2024 @09:55AM (#41347335)
Sure, but private distribution is something completely different than commercial distribution. And private distribution under friends up to 15 is even legal.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by throwaway48540 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @10:08AM (#41347408)
Yes, sharing privately using for example a flash drive, sending file via messaging app, or a private download link that's not shared publicly is not distribution. But I was replying to your comment that said "violation of copyright", which implies distribution - torrents in my case. Fortunately I didn't distribute much, I had the torrent client set to a low speed, so I was able to settle it out of court.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Monday August 26, 2024 @12:19AM (#41353984)
So it was distribution. As I originally said.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by throwaway48540 on Monday August 26, 2024 @09:26AM (#41356906)
I replied to a comment about violation of copyright, which implies distribution.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Semaphor on Monday August 26, 2024 @10:44AM (#41357655)
There have been courts that decided downloading is copying, is infringement. But even if I used incorrect wording, I specifically mentioned distribution being the issue in my original comment.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by throwaway48540 on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @01:49AM (#41364867)
No, there is a specific ruling says that says downloading for personal use is not infringement or violation of copyright. The person who uploaded it is the one infringing by giving out copies, not the person downloading. That's why downloading gets a pass. Any violation of copyright in Europe necessarily includes uploading.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by rrr_oh_man on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:15PM (#41340669)
You should move to Germany and argue this exact point in front of a bored 54-year old regional judge (who does not own a smartphone) on a Wednesday afternoon.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by leafmeal on Friday August 23, 2024 @12:24PM (#41330350)
If they're also downloading or seeding the torrent, the learn the IPs of their peers, so they know you were downloading that particular file.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Friday August 23, 2024 @01:02PM (#41330710)
Yeah you can use peerblock/peerguardian, but in general there's no point. It's much less risky to simply use a VPN because there's always a risk that new IPs are not on the blocklist.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Krasnol on Friday August 23, 2024 @02:34PM (#41331705)
They've been blocked because they became too popular.

I've heard from kinox from people I would have never suspected to be even capable of finding such a site.

Guess those people have been the marker.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Sakos on Friday August 23, 2024 @06:24PM (#41333602)
Probably been told about it by friends. Whenever I find a decent site, I pass it on to anybody I know who needs it. kinox used to be one of those sites.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Green-Man on Friday August 23, 2024 @03:05PM (#41332044)
700€ per movie is a current rate, plus a couple of hundreds as legal fees.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Friday August 23, 2024 @11:38PM (#41335376)
Yeah ridiculous. Only in Germany...
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by ThatMedicIsASpy on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:42PM (#41332914)
nsw2u is something I've used when I wanted to look at the current state of switch emulation
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by imhoguy on Friday August 23, 2024 @04:44PM (#41332928)
Sci-Hub domains are listed, that is big.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by rightbyte on Friday August 23, 2024 @06:51PM (#41333767)
It wouldn't surprise me if not having access to Sci-hub is about as bad for research and academiaishnesshood as ... dunno... like really bad.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by amelius on Friday August 23, 2024 @05:15PM (#41333169)
And libgen?
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Friday August 23, 2024 @05:09PM (#41333122)
What is that? I've never heard of it.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by __MatrixMan__ on Friday August 23, 2024 @05:10PM (#41333137)
It's where we go to get peer reviewed scientific journal articles.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by manmal on Friday August 23, 2024 @05:22PM (#41333223)
An alternative that often works being annas-archive.org.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by mazdayasna on Friday August 23, 2024 @06:50PM (#41333757)
It's also run by a Putin and Stalin worshipping crazy lady
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by orlp on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:33PM (#41334045)
What are you basing that on?
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by CamperBob2 on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:51PM (#41334191)
Her own words: https://www.sci-hub.ru/alexandra

Still.... you go, girl.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by cristoperb on Friday August 23, 2024 @10:26PM (#41335046)
I don't see anything about Putin on that page
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by filoleg on Saturday August 24, 2024 @01:13AM (#41335818)
Read the expanded version in russian[0]. Page 71, 3rd paragraph, explicitly saying “I was a patriot and supported Putin.”

And here is the source claiming she was attempting to join the Comminist Party of Russia[1] (though she ended up not being able to, because she wasn’t a russian citizen, which is a requirement)

0. https://www.sci-hub.ru/misc/alexandra/bio.pdf

1. http://bilimveaydinlanma.org/a-robin-hood-in-the-world-of-sc...

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by ngcc_hk on Tuesday August 27, 2024 @12:34AM (#41364589)
Want to be a communist is not new. Even some French philosophers were or at least if trying to be. But joining Soviet Union then or Russia now … is that even communist ? Btw, based on that article it seems openness is ok in Russia or is it just another rip-off like communism-on-market. The experiment of coummunism by itself always failed. But mix it then you have to ask yourselves is it communism or market is an essential part to it, not just use it as a step.

In brief where those science paper coming from, Russia?

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by desumeku on Friday August 23, 2024 @07:13PM (#41333917)
At least she respects scientific freedom.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by EnigmaFlare on Friday August 23, 2024 @08:59PM (#41334615)
It's not a surprise at all that people doing extraordinary things aren't quite the same as regular people. The average same-belief-having person isn't going to do anything like make sci-hub because fitting in is their priority.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by beaglesss on Friday August 23, 2024 @09:44PM (#41334849)
More like it requires protection from one of the few blocks of nations resistant to extradition to the US.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by matrix87 on Friday August 23, 2024 @09:14PM (#41334703)
Idrc who she worships, she thinks information should be free. The parasitic corporations in the west don't. Rich people are more of a threat to the well-being of society than foreigners who see the world differently
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Friday August 23, 2024 @11:56PM (#41335473)
It's not an either or choice.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by lenkite on Saturday August 24, 2024 @12:25AM (#41335627)
She technically identifies as a communist. Besides, she needs some protector to prevent being extradited to the Land of The Free & Home of The Brave. You saw what happened to Kim Dotcom.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by skissane on Saturday August 24, 2024 @01:41AM (#41335915)
Her argument that Stalin is the Christian God is rather, intriguing – https://www.sci-hub.ru/why-stalin-is-god

Not convinced myself, but to each their own.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by defrost on Saturday August 24, 2024 @02:00AM (#41335993)
It's an argument ... it may also be an inside joke and more than a bit of a leg pull <shrug>.

Soviet and post Soviet literature tends to be layered and full of oblique messages, many of these suffer in translation.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by 082349872349872 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @08:15AM (#41337628)
Starting a panegyric to JV Stalin with words from IE Aleshkovsky is an editorial choice which shows AA Elbakyan takes CE Shannon seriously; I for one am looking forward to a future essay equating pirate site shutdowns with the 7 June (415 BC) early morning mutilation of the herms.

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu6oziDE5wc

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Friday August 23, 2024 @11:36PM (#41335363)
Ah for that I tend to go to Z-Library. But to be honest i don't have much need for that kinda stuff
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by defrost on Saturday August 24, 2024 @12:05AM (#41335524)
Sci-hub is an OG source of journal papers and the source that Z-lib | anna's archive copy from.

Love it | Hate it, either way the Alexandra Elbakyan story is worth a read: https://sci-hub.se/alexandra

As a general rule pirate sites tend to not go in for founder bio's.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by 082349872349872 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @06:57AM (#41337218)
> As a general rule pirate sites tend to not go in for founder bio's.

I'm no Data Scientist, but would be willing to bet a small round that were we to look, presence of founder bio's and their domicile's extradition policies are not uncorrelated.

[AFAICT there was a lot of paranoia on the Soviet side, and as a basis for that paranoia they pointed to all the Capitalist forces active in russia during the revolution, but in retrospect some part of all that foreign intervention had been due to a problem of their own making: they believed world revolution was only a few years off (and just maybe they didn't want to look inconsistent with their own ideology?), so instead of doing what any reasonable mafia would've done and kept on paying dividends on imperial paper (perhaps even after negotiating an acceptable haircut?) and maybe even paying lip service to IP rights, on both fronts they rather rudely essentially told all the now-former investors to "go to wood"]

Lagniappe: somewhere in Abai's қара сөздері, he says something similar to "you know, it wouldn't do us Kazakhs much harm if once in a while we were to think of something other than how to grift more cows"; with that in mind: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/life-3

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Sakos on Friday August 23, 2024 @06:22PM (#41333589)
You haven't heard of the biggest source of paywalled research papers on the planet? It's a fantastic resource for when you don't want to pay 40 Euros for a single paper and you don't happen to be part of a university that happens to be subscribed to the right journal.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by wkat4242 on Sunday August 25, 2024 @11:59AM (#41348289)
Yeah I'm not really an academic, although I did study at university decades ago. I'm much more practically aligned. So I don't ever read research papers :)
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by greensh on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:16PM (#41348465)
i live in germany, cannot access Sci-hub via ISP's DNS
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by Sakos on Friday August 23, 2024 @06:20PM (#41333582)
I use and have used a large number of these. Many of them are primarily German streaming sites. Ziperto is a file hosting site, which you'd only come into contact with through certain kinds of direct download piracy sites. I'm not surprised you haven't heard of any of them, even though they are actually quite popular in some circles.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by bowsamic on Saturday August 24, 2024 @01:41AM (#41335916)
Yeah I didn’t know about this when coming to Germany and downloaded something without a VPN. Thankfully I was spared. But now I always use one with a reasonable good kill switch setup and forcing the torrent client to use the vpns network device
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by slightwinder on Saturday August 24, 2024 @06:16AM (#41337044)
> I'm really surprised this list doesn't contain any of the big names I'm using.

This might be more a proof for this whole blocking-business actually working. kinox, serienjunkies and similar named domains were very famous and huge 5-10 years ago. Since then, they have been raided, sued, blocked, etc. So it seems they've been fallen in grace and awareness with their target-group.

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by gardenmud on Saturday August 24, 2024 @10:43AM (#41338684)
I actually kind of appreciate the laws there. It's sort of weird because it's one of those things where -- if you just use a VPN it totally negates the problem. Like somehow it's just "common knowledge" that you can do any of that with a VPN and you're risk free. It's this loophole that... you can't really close as a government without being completely authoritarian.

So it's not shocking that some might want to shut down VPNs or make using a VPN illegal (like, uh, North Korea, Belarus, Iraq, Oman, Turkmenistan... oof).

Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by rrr_oh_man on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:09PM (#41340625)
Side note: (Very intrusive) Deep Packet Inspection is active and alive in EU ally countries Kazakhstan and Turkey.
Re:17-Year-Old Student Exposes Germany's 'Secret' Pirate Sit... by brnt on Saturday August 24, 2024 @04:01PM (#41341038)
If you force encryption in your BT client, will you be safe?