You forget that these companies already operate in China which is a massive pain in the backside for all involved.
The only reason why a company might threaten to pull out is if they wanted to stop other countries getting similar ideas.
Maybe Apple should focus back on making money through innovation instead of coasting on rent seeking.
If they’re so good at dissuading gate keepers, then why is LVMH everywhere and so dominant in luxury goods? Why is it that every single glasses shop in every mall is owned by Luxottica no matter the brand.
The truth is that EU is not good at promoting competition. They’re good at preventing innovation. They’re good at protectionist policies.
How many more cookie prompts do people have to click because of idiotic EU laws?
Well they do collect user data using third party services. A bit disappointing, but banners seem to be necessary in this case.
> Cookie prompts is the best example of bad faith compliance
If cookie prompts are used by both by the official EU and GDPR sites then that was clearly the intent of the law.
My previous company hired a lawyer from EU for sorting out GDPR, and even according to him the law didn't prevented all things which hurts privacy like a normal person will assume.
Like Arm? Or raspberry pi? (Both existed pre-exit)
> software,
Too many companies to list.
> and AI?
Like Mistral?
> How many more cookie prompts do people have to click because of idiotic EU laws?
It's up to the companies. Every time you see a banner it means the company values selling your information more than pissing you off. We could have no banners right now.
Anyone can make an app like WeChat with mini programs inside. No one has exceeded because people in the west simply don’t want that ui.
There’s already mechanisms to side load, and install IPAs..
Why would it be more complicated?
Firefox also had a set of China-owned servers to sync data from Chinese users to.
(“Had” because I think they officially stopped the relationship with Mozilla China)
And even if they do at one point, they will be quickly put into their place, the US is not just going to stand there and take it.
What are they gonna do about it? The EU's DMA is child's play compared to what big tech had to bend over for to access the Chines market, and the US didn't do shit to China.
And somehow big-tech bitches way more about the EU regulations that the Chinese ones. Hypocrisy much?
https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-42631386
Are you 5 years old or just a delusional Apple fanboy? That's how it works everywhere: businesses need to comply with local regulations or fuck off.
When VW and Toyota came to the US they also had to design their cars as they were told by the US legislation. It's why the Cybertruck can't be sold in Europe and why the Porsche 959 couldn't be sold in the US: they weren't compliant to legislation abroad.
Similarly, nobody's forcing Apple to sell it's products and services in Europe, if they want to do that, it must adapt them to EU legislation. Simple. Why are you having difficulties with this?
>China isn’t.
lol OK.
Read the post I was responding.
The DMA changes only come to EU iPhone users. Same how Chinese regulation affect iPhone users in China. US iPhone users will continue to happily live under Apple's umbrella.
This is low quality flame-bait.
The EU has several large antitrust fines against US companies: https://www.statista.com/chart/14752/eu-antitrust-fines-agai...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/639928/market-share-mobi...
Apple would be crazy for leaving the EU. Even the suggestion would probably lead to a shareholder revolt and the removal of some executives.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/639928/market-share-mobi...
However, more importantly, iPhone users have more disposable income [1][2]. So, if Apple would pull from the EU, all those iPhone users with a lot of disposable income would be in the market for Android phones and apps, creating a lot of opportunities in the Android market.
[1] There are various studies, e.g.: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/iphone-users-spend-...
[2] If you look at the most popular Android phones, they are often dominated by cheaper models, e.g. Samsung's A lineup. See e.g. current Android usage in France: https://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-android-phones-tablets-by...
California has adopted GDPR, there are ongoing probes in the US just last week, etc.
Time is up for regulation-free business in IT. We had 50 years of freedom (compared to let us say: drugs, medical devices, cars, airplanes, ...). It is normal cycle for a market
This is an odd reading of the history, tbh. The US regulators were generally more active on competition in the industry in the 90s than today; see the Microsoft and Intel investigations, for instance.
More “Wild West gold rush” than “freedom”
Think what does same investors will do to the company that leaves a 300mil people market over a legal spat.
Then you are also thinking of Apple as some kind of US entity. It's a faceless shareholder owned business. The shareholders would somehow need to agree to leave a still very profitable region. They would only agree to that if they think the company can force other regions or the EU to not legislate Apple. It's a risky strategy that could work but I don't think you can get the majority of shareholders to try it. Even then it could fail and just bankrupt the company.
Apple has a vested interest in being able to offer their services worldwide. If one part of the world is not included, companies in that part will have a much easier time to develop and grow their own alternatives. If these alternatives gain enough traction in that part they might then be able to threaten Apples services globally.
Therefore I'd assume that even if they will only break even (or operate at a manageable loss) they would still stay in the EU.