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Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by chippiewill on Monday March 25, 2024 @07:50AM (#39815119)
The threshold is nowhere near close.

You forget that these companies already operate in China which is a massive pain in the backside for all involved.

The only reason why a company might threaten to pull out is if they wanted to stop other countries getting similar ideas.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by aurareturn on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:19AM (#39815372)
China isn’t threatening Apple’s entire App Store model though.
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by Rinzler89 on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:23AM (#39815415)
The point of the EU is to protect consumers and small businesses, not the business of multi trillion dollar market leaders who engage in anti-competitive practices.

Maybe Apple should focus back on making money through innovation instead of coasting on rent seeking.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by aurareturn on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:17AM (#39815906)
If EU is so good at promoting innovation and competition, why couldn’t they compete at all in hardware, software, and AI?

If they’re so good at dissuading gate keepers, then why is LVMH everywhere and so dominant in luxury goods? Why is it that every single glasses shop in every mall is owned by Luxottica no matter the brand.

The truth is that EU is not good at promoting competition. They’re good at preventing innovation. They’re good at protectionist policies.

How many more cookie prompts do people have to click because of idiotic EU laws?

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by vages on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:25AM (#39815990)
I recommend the article “Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for good management”: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39602417
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by Isn0gud on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:28AM (#39816022)
Cookie prompts is the best example of bad faith compliance. Please inform yourself and don't spread this narritive further.
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by shagie on Monday March 25, 2024 @12:47PM (#39818511)
https://gdpr.eu is an interesting site to visit on the matter, surely they have the best and most compliant implementation.

https://i.imgur.com/Ftuv74P.png

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by doublepg23 on Monday March 25, 2024 @10:11AM (#39816560)
I am once again posting the EU official site using cookie pop-ups https://european-union.europa.eu/index_en
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by maxcoder4 on Monday March 25, 2024 @12:13PM (#39818134)
>The 3 types of first-party cookie we use are to: >(...) >gather analytics data (about user behaviour).

Well they do collect user data using third party services. A bit disappointing, but banners seem to be necessary in this case.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by doublepg23 on Monday March 25, 2024 @02:49PM (#39819940)
Quoting OP

> Cookie prompts is the best example of bad faith compliance

If cookie prompts are used by both by the official EU and GDPR sites then that was clearly the intent of the law.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by aurareturn on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:35PM (#39823419)
You can’t argue with cookie prompt lovers. They love clicking on those useless buttons.
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by YetAnotherNick on Monday March 25, 2024 @10:07AM (#39816506)
IMO if anything it's the opposite. EU could have made law to respect DNT header if they wanted privacy but they won't because it would hurt "their" companies. Instead they tried to be super vague and preferentially sue companies who they have qualms with and the companies which they could get money from.

My previous company hired a lawyer from EU for sorting out GDPR, and even according to him the law didn't prevented all things which hurts privacy like a normal person will assume.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by viraptor on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:26AM (#39816001)
> why couldn’t they compete at all in hardware,

Like Arm? Or raspberry pi? (Both existed pre-exit)

> software,

Too many companies to list.

> and AI?

Like Mistral?

> How many more cookie prompts do people have to click because of idiotic EU laws?

It's up to the companies. Every time you see a banner it means the company values selling your information more than pissing you off. We could have no banners right now.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by amadeuspagel on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:22AM (#39815960)
They kind of do with WeChat.
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by aurareturn on Monday March 25, 2024 @12:36PM (#39818391)
Example?

Anyone can make an app like WeChat with mini programs inside. No one has exceeded because people in the west simply don’t want that ui.

Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by resolutebat on Monday March 25, 2024 @08:32AM (#39815501)
Virtually all Meta and Google services are blocked in China. Only Apple has significant consumer presence (and manufacturing) there.
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by DanielHB on Monday March 25, 2024 @09:11AM (#39815842)
Not for a lack of trying (at least on the google side). Took google getting hacked and IP stolen to fully move out of china
Re:EU Launches Probes into Apple, Meta, Google Under New Dig... by akaij on Monday March 25, 2024 @02:36PM (#39819776)
Google didn't 'fully' move out of China; it still has offices there, doing some business as usual.