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Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by superkuh on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @01:33PM (#39769690)
That's nice and all, but google scholar recently removed all the 'cited by' 'related articles' and other links from the HTML pages of google scholar. It was like this for about two months before they restored the functionality. It likely they will remove it again soon. Google scholar is getting worse, not better. The google devs have no idea what a typical academic's computer is like around the world. They dev for their lived experience and it's just not applicable. A javascript (slow, computationally expensive) pdf reader is just another aspect of this ignorance.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by xnacly on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @01:40PM (#39769766)
I couldn’t agree more, I dont want you displaying the pdf, let me download the file and view it with zathura
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by adr1an on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @01:42PM (#39769801)
Or Sioyek (vim keybindings!), Okular, Xournalpp, Zotero, ...
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by newzisforsukas on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:58PM (#39771315)
What are the base hardware requirements for a JavaScript PDF reader where it isn't "slow"?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by adolph on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:32PM (#39770342)
A js pdf reader they control has monetization possibilities. Slip in an interstitial page for Naturally Fun Arkansas with an article from Nature. You don't want scholar going the way of reader do you?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by lukeinator42 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:31PM (#39772243)
Alongside this, I have found that Google Scholar's search has become noticeably worse in the last year or so. I can search for an author's name and a few keywords from a paper title and it won't show up, even if the paper has like 5000 citations.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by malshe on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @10:29PM (#39774351)
Wow so I am not going mad! I had the same experience and it almost feels like Google is trying to recommend me papers based on my past searches. I hope they revert to their earlier algorithm
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by google234123 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:32PM (#39772256)
Are you sure this actually happened? I never noticed this. can anyone else collaborate? Maybe you installed some extension that messed with the html
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by superkuh on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:12PM (#39772615)
Yes, I confirmed it with 3 other people on IRC a couple months ago. I didn't know google scholar had restored it until I checked right before I wrote the above post. I thought the links were still gone. They had been the last time I'd used google scholar about 3 weeks ago. Back then I also confirmed it myself first using 3 different computers, 4 browsers (with JS disabled), coming from 3 different IP addresses, both logged in to google and logged out. I probably wouldn't have started writing the post at all if I didn't think they were still gone.

I figure in addition to the feedback they received from me (and presumably others) at the time they saw a drop in usage and restored the functional version. But they'll try again.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by google234123 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:42PM (#39772900)
I think you are wrong - I don't recall seeing this. Screenshots of scholar on twitter from feb, jan, dec all show those links
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by superkuh on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:00PM (#39774530)
Check at 2024 Feb 08 09:54:00 (am) CST. I definitely didn't confabulate the memory because the initial conversation about it (with others) is in my IRC logs. Sorry I don't have any screenshots of my own. Perhaps it was A/B testing or something.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by smeeth on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @08:12PM (#39773581)
Check out https://openalex.org

I'm pretty optimistic that by the time google scholar really goes to shit they'll be good enough to pick up the slack.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by sorenjan on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:04PM (#39770052)
Does anyone have any recommendations for good local PDF readers for Windows? I've been reading a lot of various papers recently, and clicking on a citation in Acrobat reader is very frustrating. The document scrolls to show the citation in view, but doesn't clearly show it in the long list that most papers have, and then I have to scroll up to where I was since it doesn't seem to have a working back feature.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by mikepo on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:24PM (#39770250)
I've been using Sumatra PDF on Windows to read papers (and as my default PDF reader) for more than a decade. Clicking on a citation takes you to the bibliography page and lands the cited paper at the top of the screen. Then Alt-leftarrow brings you back.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by airstrike on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:01PM (#39770635)
SumatraPDF if you want speed above all else

DrawboardPDF if you want something more full featured and like to annotate, highlight, bookmark and whatnot, particularly if there's any chance you'll also use a stylus

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by drmaximus on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:12PM (#39770131)
Sioyek is a PDF viewer designed exactly for reading research papers and textbooks: https://github.com/ahrm/sioyek.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by random3 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:00PM (#39770629)
Sioyek seems awesome, especially vim inspired features. Too bad u (undo) doesn't work and there doesn't seem to be a way to undo. Am I missing something or is it laking it?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by severine on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:24PM (#39770922)
I found this related issue: https://github.com/ahrm/sioyek/issues/633
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by random3 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:51AM (#39774960)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jacktang on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:32AM (#39775708)
looks cool
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Tomte on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:29PM (#39770986)
Okular. You don’t need the rest of KDE. It has a Windows installer and I think it‘s also in the Windows Store.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by abhayhegde on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:29PM (#39770303)
Irrespective of the OS, I recommend Zotero (https://www.zotero.org/).
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Depurator on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:43PM (#39770449)
Zotero's V7 reader is great, built on pdfjs (Mozillas pdf reader) and adds neat things like notations and dark mode.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by elektor on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:02PM (#39771350)
Where are you accessing Zotero V7? My understanding is that it is currently V6.[1]

[1] https://www.zotero.org/download/

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by zuminator on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:35PM (#39771716)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by elektor on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @09:45PM (#39774149)
Thanks! I'll try it out
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by specproc on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:32PM (#39771031)
I love zotero. The combination of annotation, highlights, document management and a healthy plug-in ecosystem are just killer for me.

It feels a bit dated sometimes, but I'm yet to find anything that comes close.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by kristjansson on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:54PM (#39773006)
It looks a lot nicer after the recent design update!
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by wolverine876 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:40PM (#39771119)
IIRC, pdfjs is used by Google also, and was based on Foxit? ? Does anyone know?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Tijdreiziger on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:25PM (#39772196)
PDF.js came out of Mozilla, not Foxit.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by wolverine876 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:57PM (#39772476)
Yes, but I think Mozilla may have started with code from Foxit.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by thristian on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @07:23PM (#39773224)
The PDFium plugin that was part of Chrome was based on C++ code from Foxit.

PDFjs was written in JS from day one, and (as far as I know) was not based on any previous PDF reader.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by wolverine876 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @08:19PM (#39773626)
Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Thanks.

BTW, I didn't mean they necessarily used the actual Foxit code, but it was a starting point maybe reimplemented in JS.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cxr on Thursday March 21, 2024 @04:52AM (#39776168)
In no sense is PDF.js related to Foxit except that they are both PDF readers.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by random3 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:52PM (#39770550)
is it possible to point Zotero to a local dir with papers, or am I forced to import documents into it?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by garyiskidding on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:27PM (#39774654)
I use Zotero and really like it, especially when working with others. This was the first thing that came into my mind on this thread.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Nicksil on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:43PM (#39770448)
Mozilla Firefox has put a lot of time into their PDF reader.

https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/browsers/

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by aragonite on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:46PM (#39771181)
Jumping back works in SumatraPDF (backspace).

STDU Viewer might also be worth looking into. Default shortcut for jumping back is ctrl+z.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by somethingsome on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:28PM (#39770299)
Just so you know: normally it scroll down so that the reference is on top of the page.

But most importantly.. ALT+'left arrow' allows you to go back before you clicked on the citation! It doesn't work all the time, but usually it does after some left arrows ;)

Also, in Android: you can click on the 'scrolling sign' on the right of the pdf and specify the page, or see the link to 'jump back' to before you clicked on a link!

I hope that will help

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by user- on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:26PM (#39770275)
ive always used SumatraPDF because its super fast and free
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by eitally on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:28PM (#39770298)
What you might consider if finding an ebook reader app and using that. I had a similar issue but on Android (for ebooks not in kindle format). I ended up with Librera but there are several. Turns out it's also equally great at academic or work PDFs.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by SkyMarshal on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:50PM (#39770522)
Same question but for MacOS. There don't seem to be many good ones for it.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by SkyMarshal on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:35PM (#39771709)
Just found this one I hadn't seen before, free version may suffice: https://highlightsapp.net/
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by airstrike on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:01PM (#39770646)
Unfortunately, Preview has been the best reader in my experience. I say "unfortunately" not because it is inherently bad, but because it is a sad state of affairs when nobody can build something better than the barebones native tool
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by moritz on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:03PM (#39770668)
Try Skim
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by wslh on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:19PM (#39770202)
I am interested in knowing why and how Google Chrome is not enough?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by somethingsome on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:32PM (#39770339)
Mostly too slow for a lot of content, not every content is supported, not easy to keep it open at the right page, no comments, not easy to find the right tab, etc.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Configure0251 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @09:37PM (#39774100)
Zotero!
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by ttul on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:24PM (#39770247)
Now all they need is a way to grab documents from SciHub..
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by abhayhegde on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @02:28PM (#39770289)
This looks great! Since they link it all to one's Gmail account, I wonder if they implement saving annotations to these PDFs and have them live on your Drive or elsewhere.

Edit: Also, Chrome now defaults to this extension for rendering any PDFs you load.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by meekaaku on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:30PM (#39771011)
Does anyone know of a library (or reading material) that can render a pdf (mostly architectural drawings) on to webgl canvas as actual vectors not image?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by me_jumper on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:09PM (#39772075)
Not sure if that's what you are looking for but mupdf can render to SVG.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gcr on Thursday March 21, 2024 @06:43AM (#39776917)
WebGL is inherently a vector-to-raster technology, it’s always backed by a pixel buffer. One might argue that even PDFjs works this way with its calls to the canvas API.

What are you trying to do? Why is webgl the key here?

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by meekaaku on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:17PM (#39783129)
Basically I am looking to render pdf of architectural drawings onto webgl (because 2d context is too slow), and maintain the vector information in the drawings (ie lines, arcs). I know webgl is eventually raster, but I want to pan/zoom while retaining the crispness of vector lines.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by alecco on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @03:37PM (#39771096)
Most important papers can be read with highlighting at https://www.semanticscholar.org/ (PDF Semantic Reader, skimming assist)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by lxgr on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:04PM (#39771380)
Looks great, but can you imagine Google pulling the rug under an academic's document/citation database?

I don't even want to imagine having to migrate all annotations and citations to something else when they inevitably pull the plug on it some years down the road.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by resolutebat on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:21PM (#39771577)
Huh? This tool just parses PDFs, it doesn't require academics to actually do anything.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by lxgr on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:26PM (#39771620)
Hm, I got the impression they store notes and annotations to your Google account, but maybe I'm mistaken.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by glial on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:08PM (#39772068)
The Chrome Web Store page doesn't say anything about annotations.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by SamBam on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @04:53PM (#39771882)
Has anyone tried installing this? It says "PDFs on all sites will have a new look in Chrome."

This makes me nervous. I'm often looking at PDFs that are embedded in a page (either grad school software for commenting on PDFs, or publishers' sites). Is it going to play nicely with those? Is this only for navigating directly to a PDF?

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gnicholas on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:56PM (#39773028)
My guess (as someone whose company makes a PDF extension for Chrome) is that it may intercept embedded PDFs as well. Sometimes sites use iframes or the like, and those get intercepted. But if the PDF is displayed through some sort of third party tool then it would be unaffected. Just my 2¢!
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cygnion on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:08PM (#39772065)
Capturing and visualizing research knowledge is personally an exciting space. I feel that deep reading and absorbing content continues to be challenging, due to the ever-increasing amount of published research, rudimentary reading apps (Google PDF reader finally addressing issue with easily looking up references), and due to somewhat disconnected tools for reading and note-taking. Similar to the readers piggy-backing on the PDFjs library, I've developed an app that helps me capture and organize personal research knowledge [1]. Additionally, visualizations and customizable contexts for notes help to recall and link information.

[1] https://www.knowledgegarden.io/

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by chipdart on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:42AM (#39775487)
Zotero does a good job at it, doesn't it?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by KingMob on Thursday March 21, 2024 @09:32AM (#39778315)
As a daily Zotero user, not really. The nicest thing I can say about it is, it has plugins and is FOSS. Maybe the new 7.0 release will blow me away, but I've been waiting for it to get out of beta forever.

More fundamentally, we need to stop disseminating scholarly work as PDFs, a format primarily designed for print. Plain HTML would be an improvement. Even better than HTML would be an extended variant with scholarly-specific semantic markup and universal, animated, explorable figures. Embedded notebooks would be cool, too, but disseminating data would still be a major challenge. (And I don't just mean storage/transfer; a lot of researchers are reluctant to share source data to the world.)

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by chipdart on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:28PM (#39780747)
> As a daily Zotero user, not really. The nicest thing I can say about it is, it has plugins and is FOSS. Maybe the new 7.0 release will blow me away, but I've been waiting for it to get out of beta forever.

Can you elaborate where you think Zotero drops the ball?

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by drhelix on Friday March 22, 2024 @04:34AM (#39788534)
one major issue with zotero is the lack of android support. they are working on an android version or app or something since forever.

then is the way you store the pfds. if you want to sync between multiple computers you have to either know how to work with webdav or know how to point zotero at the location where you have your pdfs or (what they most certainly love) pay a lot of money for not so much storage space on their system. that last thing is what i don't like because i just don't trust anyone these days. you get invested in a system, build your routine around it only for them to shut it down, sell it watever and then puff you have to start over.

people keep calling zotero foss but if they were truly foss they would have a much more transparent way for people to roll their own selfhosted zotero server. instead, what they have is a dump of an old version, with next to zero documentation and a bunch of stubborn people that have managed to get something working but not quite.

I get that they are trying to make money but I am sure they could do that and be more transparent.

The other thing is the reliance on so many plugins. While zotero itself may last a while, who can say anything about the many devs of the many plugins that you end up relying on in order to make zotero bow to your routine? I like zotfile and a few others, but how long are they going to last? Also, reinstalling my system is a huge pain to get back to my routine because I have to remember all the settings for each and every plugin I install. They should come up with a way to save all these settings and restore them, and no don't do it through another plugin!

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by omnster on Friday March 22, 2024 @07:31AM (#39789603)
Here's a guide I found useful to set up zotero storage. In brief, it relies on zotfile to flatten the storage (keep all pdfs in one directory) and better bibtex.

I realized that it helped me to get rid of exactly the pain with fresh installs that you mention. I realized that the two plugins give me most of the functionality that I want.

https://habr.com/ru/articles/443798/

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Unlisted6446 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:14AM (#39778752)
So I'm a researcher that almost always uses pdfs... Does HTML have the reproducibility that PDF promises? My feeling is that if I store a PDF, it'll look the same in a decade. But is HTML the same way? It seems like it relies on the web browser and many other things... How would one manage things like images and gifs? Is there a way to keep everything into one HTML file that's easily shareable and feels secure?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by telegtron on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:11PM (#39780507)
The potential to freeze an HTML page in time with minimal changes at render time is already there. [0] Such an ability can even be baked directly into the rendered HTML page so the viewer would be able to download a copy of the page as it is seen at a given time. Other archiving facilities, such as archive.org, take static snapshots of accessible pages if allowed by the publisher of the page and requested by anyone who wants to make that snapshot.

My point is that it is possible to achieve in principle and in practice, albeit that might be practiced as often as one would like to see.

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[0] See SingleFile by gildas at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/single-file/: “Save an entire web page—including images and styling—as a single HTML file.”

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by hju22_-3 on Friday March 22, 2024 @06:43AM (#39789302)
I like SingleFile, but it's not perfect. It usually works just fine, but will occasionally drop the ball depending on the type of JavaScript on the page.

For example, I once backed up a page using it, and while it got all the content, it did not grab the JavaScript necessary for the images to display correctly.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cygnion on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:50PM (#39781105)
I explored tools to export/interchange PDF to HTML in the KnowledgeGarden app, but the results were not optimal, suffering from non-standard layout and poor typesetting of equations. Publishers of scholarly articles generate web pages of papers, but they're not replicas of PDF files.

Re. self-contained HTML (and slightly off-topic), look at TiddlyWiki, which contains data/code/layout all in one interactive, local or hosted HTML. Extensibility, plugins, and community of contributors are some key highlights, among others.

[1] https://www.tiddlywiki.com

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by nickpsecurity on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:22PM (#39781581)
Machines and humans can both easily use HTML/XML. Extracting information from PDF’s is so much harder that there’s deep learning products dedicated to doing it. They still make mistakes, too.

I’d much rather have something akin to the CHM files where everything I need is in one file, easy to analyze, and has good readers.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by theGnuMe on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:44PM (#39781895)
I'd like to see PDFs move to Computational Notebooks. One can dream.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gerroo on Thursday March 21, 2024 @06:19PM (#39785124)
That'd be so nice. Imagine executing the code for an ai paper and seeing the beautiful visualizations as you read it.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cxr on Friday March 22, 2024 @03:11AM (#39788089)
> Does HTML have the reproducibility that PDF promises? My feeling is that if I store a PDF, it'll look the same in a decade.

Feelings and promises are each one thing. Reality is another. PDF doesn't even look "the same" today. I have serious questions about how often folks who think that PDF is reliably consistent from system to system step outside their bubble and just how diverse their setups are that they're testing on.

> is HTML the same way?

Well the status-quo for copy-and-paste in HTML isn't dogshit, it's comparatively trivial to find and use tools that can thoroughly and exhaustively search your collection (or even write your own), and HTML is a dead simple plain-text format that if worst comes to worst you can read with your eyes (unlike needing to run a bunch of inscrutable code from a PostScript subset through an interpreter before you can do anything with it). So, no, I wouldn't call them the same.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by antimora on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:31PM (#39772244)
Can someone recommend an app for ipad that can read PDFs? I want to be able to bookmark using my browser but read it on my ipad. Sort of like "Save to pocket" extension.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by walterbell on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @08:31PM (#39773692)
> bookmark using my browser but read it on my ipad

MacOS and iPad: DevonThink paid app with sync via P2P, WebDAV or cloud services.

Optional local mirror/sync of web pages and PDFs, with full text search.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by dunham on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @07:08PM (#39773121)
Primarily I've been using Zotero and Notability. They each have "save to" on mobile. Zotero has a chrome plugin that requires the desktop app to be running. They both optionally support a dark mode for reading in the dark.

I like the experience of reading in Muse.app on the iPad. It's a nested whiteboarding thing, but also can act as a PDF reader. (It'll let you pull out chunks of the PDF and put it on your canvas with a link back into your document, if that fits your flow.) I often read on my phone, so this is not an option for me.

Apple Notes and Muse slow down with a lot of ink. For taking a page full of notes I'm using Notability.

I've heard good things about GoodReader, but haven't played with it in years.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by hedora on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @07:15PM (#39773161)
Square icon with up arrow sticking out of it -> Save to books.

It seems to work in MacOS and iOS; an iCloud account is probably required.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Tortoise on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:35PM (#39772834)
I really like PDF Expert for this. It's free. They have a subscription for some editing/advanced features, which I haven't tried.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pdf-expert-editor-reader/id743...

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by buildbot on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:36PM (#39772289)
In theory the built in files app will work for this. However, I like goodnotes, which has good highlighting snd library support. I’ve used it since grad school for reading papers.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by kristjansson on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:53PM (#39773003)
Zotero w/ their first-party storage is the best I've found.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by mtone on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:39PM (#39774704)
I use Readdle Documents to sync PDF folders with my server PC via FTP. Free version supports PDF highlighting & simple annotations, basic file management, and automatically syncs back everything.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by kennydude on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @05:59PM (#39772500)
I just wish Google Scholar would be a bit more open in terms of debugging why a site isn't picked up by the platform
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by mixedmath on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:43PM (#39772915)
I would also be interested to know how they decide to pick up a site. I was very surprised to learn that a technical note posted only to my website was picked up somehow. (I am a mathematician and so there are other things on my site, but it’s some custom static site generator thing and I’m still astounded).
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jinay on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:32PM (#39772809)
Does anyone have a research paper reading tool they're happy with? Zotero is what meets most of my needs but I wish I could organize the papers faster and I wish the annotation tools were better. AI-assisted reading is a plus too.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gillesjacobs on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @08:10PM (#39773562)
Mendeley beat Zotero for me with automatic pdf renaming, organising and its highlight and note taking tools in the reader.

The Elsevier account integration is disgusting though, and I hate the idea of using all Elsevier product.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by felipefar on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @09:07PM (#39773904)
What do you like about organization in Mendeley?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gillesjacobs on Friday March 22, 2024 @01:42PM (#39793013)
Ever since the big UX app overhaul there is not much to like regarding functionality. They removed the pdf renaming and some other major automated file mgmt features from mendeley.

Other than that the commenting and note reader UI was pretty good. And overall UI/UX felt more modern than Zotero, also free (as in beer) cloud backup.

Today I had to do some literature review, and I reinstalled Zotero 7beta because I am not happy with the removed functionality from Mendeley.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by malshe on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @10:21PM (#39774313)
I use zotfile extension to automatically rename files in Zotero
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by mixedmath on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @06:41PM (#39772891)
What does AI assisted reading mean to you?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jinay on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:38PM (#39774697)
Those "chat with a PDF" apps get me halfway there, but I'm more imagining something that can explain certain terms in the context of the paper, or automatically dive into the citations and pull explanations from them too.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jdeaton on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @08:42PM (#39773759)
Paperpile is fantastic and you can make a shared folder with your lab/team.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by felipefar on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @09:04PM (#39773883)
I was also unhappy with how reference managers handle annotations. So I rolled my own app (https://getcahier.com), with highlight management integrated in the application. This enables me to extract highlights according to topics, organize them in notes using document elements (like collapsible notes and outlines) and use them to plan more complex arguments. This makes it much easier to read actively.

On the paper organization side, I would also like to find out a better way of doing it. What helps me a lot, from a more methodological perspective, is to categorize books according to time period, school of thoughts, or perspective.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by ukuina on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:53AM (#39775222)
Cahier looks great! Any plans to add backup/sync?

Also, is the data store encrypted at rest even when the app is actively being used?

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by felipefar on Thursday March 21, 2024 @07:23AM (#39777186)
Thanks! I'm considering that. We might first implement P2P or external services (dropbox, iCloud) sync, but we'll see.

The data is all local, so there's no need for encryption yet. But when we implement sync it'll be end to end encrypted.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by oldandtired on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:13AM (#39775338)
Doesn't support Linux though or any of the unixes. Looks good though.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by felipefar on Thursday March 21, 2024 @07:25AM (#39777202)
Thank you for your interest! I've received that request more than I thought I would. It's high on the priority list now, and will arrive soon.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by pks016 on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:57PM (#39774779)
I use Zotero with a bunch of useful Addons. Currently, scite is best available tool for research papers (at least in my field).
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jinay on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:44PM (#39786242)
Scite seems to apply to all fields, any reason why it's particularly good in yours?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Helmut10001 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:45AM (#39774942)
I use a combination of Zotero, Locally Linked PDFs/Folder Structure, and SumatraPDFs (Comments etc.):

    folders:
        - for every literature search, create a folder with date and name
            - e.g. 2024-03-21_Quantum_Entanglement
            - use CTRL-SHIFT-DRAG to drop files into Zotero as Links, see [#77](https://github.com/zotero/zotero/issues/77)
            - You _can_ organize in Zotero, but you don't have to. Files can be linked
            to multiple Zotero folders (simply copy library entries in Zotero)
            - sync literature folder and zotero database with nextcloud to somewhere, for backup
    zotero:
        - disable sync
        - set “Base directory” (Preferences > Advanced > Files and Folders) to local literature folder
        - set PDF View to “System default” (Preferences > General > “Open PDFs using..”)
        - Enable recursive quick search in folders: go to Preferences > Advanced > Config Editor, search for `recursiveCollections`, double click (set to True)
        - use CTRL-Shift-C to copy bibliography to clipboard
        - Dark Theme:
            - https://github.com/Rosmaninho/Zotero-Dark-Theme
            - Go to `%AppData%\Zotero\Zotero\Profiles\` (`XXXXXXXX.default`)
            - Create `chrome` folder
            - Place the `userChrome.css`
            - Start Zotero
        - Add-Ons:
            - zotero-pdfkit
                - https://github.com/sharpevo/zotero-pdfkit/
                - allows to modify/select a “default” PDF attachment to be opened
            - ZoteroDuplicatesMerger
                - https://github.com/frangoud/ZoteroDuplicatesMerger
                - easier merging of duplicates
            - zotero-folder-import
                - https://github.com/retorquere/zotero-folder-import
                - bulk import PDFs from a folder
            - zotero-tag
                - https://github.com/windingwind/zotero-tag
                - allows to add stars to items (Num Key `1`, `2`, `3` etc.)
    - PDF Tools:
        - qpdf
            - removing passwords, unlocking PDFs, conversion
            - install in WSL with `apt-get install qpdf`
            - remove password with `qpdf --decrypt --password="" input.pdf output.pdf`
        - `SumatraPDF`
            - _Really_ fast Viewing of PDFs and adding annotations (highlight, comment etc.)
            - Highlight Text: `A`, Save to file: `CTRL+SHIFT+S`
            - it is much faster than Adobe Acrobat
        - [pdfplumber](https://github.com/jsvine/pdfplumber)
            - Awesome python package to extract tables from PDFs into data pipelines. Use with Jupyter Lab.
        - [PDF X-Change viewer](https://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor), `choco install pdfxchangeviewer`
            - for manual OCR of pages/PDFs
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gerroo on Thursday March 21, 2024 @06:18PM (#39785105)
Do you know if there's a way to write latex comments in Zotero / Mendeley? It's something I've been looking for.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Helmut10001 on Friday March 22, 2024 @01:02AM (#39787610)
Did you check the `zotero-better-notes`? [1]

> LaTex math in Zotero note is no longer a dream. The `zotero-better-notes` addon now supports this feature!

[1]: https://github.com/windingwind/zotero-better-notes

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gerroo on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:52PM (#39877002)
Thanks for that :)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by hahajk on Thursday March 21, 2024 @05:36AM (#39776476)
Readwise Reader has a nice pdf reader with highlighting, notes, and an AI reader tool. I organize sources using tags. It's very new and in active development. Academic research is not it's main focus, though, so it probably won't add mindblowing academic tools. (like citation support/ backlinks. although it does have internet backlinks that tell you want articles link to the one you're reading)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by 1123581321 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:26AM (#39778875)
Readwise Reader is a poor PDF reader, unfortunately. Where it shines is making readable text documents out of PDFs, so it depends on the type that you’re reading.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by magical_spell on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:33AM (#39778948)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Labo333 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @07:10PM (#39785547)
Nothing quite beats a simple google docs file where I can take notes and put links to sci-hub. Very often, legal download links expire after some time or they force the browser to download the pdf.

I have a google docs for each research project and thus I can share them with my collaborators. Each person has their own section within the doc so we can also easily share information with each other!

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cevi on Sunday March 24, 2024 @02:46PM (#39809245)
evince recently added some features that I now find it hard to live without. The biggest is that if I mouseover an internal link in a pdf, it shows a little preview of where that link would take me - so if I'm reading a long document and the author says "by Theorem 3.3 it holds..." and if the pdf is recent enough for "Theorem 3.3" to be an internal link, then I can mouseover to remind myself of the statement of Theorem 3.3!
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jinay on Sunday March 24, 2024 @04:11PM (#39810053)
That seems really useful, thank you!
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gnicholas on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @07:10PM (#39773131)
I've never seen so many light/dark modes before. There's Device Mode, Light Mode, Dark Mode, and Night Mode. AFAICT Device Mode follows the browser/device's current setting, Dark Mode makes the sidebar dark but doesn't change the PDF, and Night Mode darkens both the sidebar and the PDF. I wonder how they decided to have so many modes?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gcr on Thursday March 21, 2024 @06:37AM (#39776867)
I’ve seen other apps that have Systen, Light, Dark, and “Very Datk” for OLED devices, so it isn’t out of the question
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by chankstein38 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:46PM (#39781029)
Did you put "Very Datk" in quotes because it was spelled like that where you saw it? Or is it just "Very Dark" and it's quotes because it doesn't fully imply what you get?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by gcr on Friday March 22, 2024 @10:59PM (#39797059)
i put it in quotes because it's a funny

i've variously seen apps call this "Extra Dark," "Midnight mode," "OLED dark," "Pure Black", ...

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Kwpolska on Thursday March 21, 2024 @07:28AM (#39777221)
Automatically applying dark mode to documents tends to have poor results, especially when images are involved, but some people are masochists and/or can't be bothered to turn on the light, so they made a separate setting for them. Although I think a toggle would be better instead of dark mode/night mode.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by ur-whale on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @10:02PM (#39774226)
> Scholar PDF Reader is available as a Chrome browser extension

So it's a closed ecosystem for now ... pass.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by smburdick on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @10:14PM (#39774268)
For me, reading papers requires deep focus. I have to have it physically printed out if I'm going to really read the whole thing.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by ildon on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:09AM (#39775309)
I suggest you try new devices to read papers. Often the perception that paper is a better support is due to a lack of more convenient devices. Paper is better than a 15'' screen for sure, for many reasons including size and posture while reading. But have you tried larger screens (> 27''), large tablets (>= A4) or as large as possible E-Ink readers? Depending on your preferences, you might find that some of these work actually better than paper also for you :-)
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by benrapscallion on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:17AM (#39775623)
Remarkable 2 tablet is very good for reading papers.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by ykonstant on Thursday March 21, 2024 @05:35AM (#39776468)
There is no way I can perceive reading on an expensive device as more comfortable than paper. Paper is fairly cheap, lightweight and resilient; I can carry it around, fold it, toss it aside, sit on it by accident while thinking, annotate it with scribbles, and pour coffee on it with aplomb and finesse. I can flip it, half-tear it in anger, drool on it when I reach my brain capacity. I can take it hiking with me without fear of breaking or losing it. In other words, paper is a tool that gets out of my way.

I did try all the devices you listed above, even had my department pay serious money, and ended up barely using them for all those reasons. I am a mathematician, I am clumsy and I want to focus on my problem-solving; I want to think, and babysitting devices and tools is not what I want to spend my brainspace on.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by serial_dev on Thursday March 21, 2024 @06:17AM (#39776756)
"But did you think about the environment? Why don't you by a new device every 2 years with Lithium battery and full of non recyclable plastic in it"

... is what I get told all the time.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by AlotOfReading on Thursday March 21, 2024 @09:58AM (#39778571)
With the typical reading volume of an academic and the amount of plastic in my toner cartridges, I'm not sure paper comes out ahead in that comparison.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by Eisenstein on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:47PM (#39781939)
A high yield toner cartridge can print between 3000 and 8000 pages of text [1]. Average number of pages in a scientific manuscript is 10 [2]. This means that it would take 300 to 800 printed scientific papers to deplete one cartridge. I would have to assume that a single toner cart is not the same amount of waste as a reading device just due to the recyclability of toner carts, but it is up to you how to count them. If I was going to pull a number out of my ass, I would say 10 carts would be equal to one reading device with battery. Let's go low-end and pick 300 papers, which means you would need to print 3000 full scientific manuscripts to equal the waste of one reading device. How many do you read in two years?

[1] https://www.brother-usa.com/supplies/ink-and-toner#sort=rele...

[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3987331/

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by temporarara on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:06PM (#39782183)
In my experience those people don't even talk about ink, it's all about paper. They must think that you get just a few sheets of paper for a single tree or something like that, when in reality you get like 10 000 sheets of paper for one averagish tree. And those trees are not rare or anything like that, and the process of making paper is nowhere near as bad as electronics industry. Using paper is as ecological as it gets.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by smburdick on Thursday March 21, 2024 @07:14PM (#39785579)
I’m typing this comment on an iPad ;-) Which I love using for marking up papers and other documents for quick feedback. But doing research is another story.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cttet on Saturday March 23, 2024 @04:30AM (#39798365)
Paper enables non-vision based(scroll bar) random access to content, when you keep going back an forth between two pages, it is very annoying on all current devices except paper. Vision pro/VR/AR or a particular multi-screen set-up can achieve that, but so far all alternatives are not as good.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by pyromaker on Wednesday March 20, 2024 @11:00PM (#39774527)
I use a tool called Scholars

https://www.scholars.io

Let you import and read PDF directly, annotate, comment and share with people.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by eviks on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:37AM (#39775146)
> You can focus on absorbing the scholarship – the format is simple and clean.

Unless you need to scroll left and right on your phone instead of absorbing

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by nothrowaways on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:02AM (#39775280)
"..have long loved PDFs" not.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by modeless on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:33AM (#39775438)
Hmm, nice to have direct links to references. But the PDF rendering itself seems not as good as the native renderer.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by lordswork on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:41AM (#39777809)
Just tried it and didn't notice any significant differences in PDF rendering myself. Do you have any concrete examples?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by nprateem on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:48AM (#39775510)
Ha ha lol. Is that really the best they can think of in an age of AI? Instead of turning PDFs into web pages how about some actually useful tools:

* Summarisation

* Succinctly placing the research in context of the broader field

* Highlighting limitations or flaws in research methods, etc.

* An outline view to summarise each paragraph/section and then drill down into the ones you actually want to read in more detail

* Rephrasing into plain English. A lot of academics enjoy sounding clever and usling long words so it'd be nice to be able to switch off "ego mode" and just read stuff in plain English instead of having to wade through their word-soup.

With more effort maybe Google could create a PDF reader that is actually innovative.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by vasco on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:52AM (#39775523)
The friends I have in academia say that their PhD professors tell them to use "ego mode" or papers won't pass review and be accepted. I'm with you though. And it's not about specific jargon of a field, it's just wankery. Most lawyers do the same thing and you need to get extremely good ones to write good contracts in clear language.

"Sounding smarter through obscurity"

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by nprateem on Thursday March 21, 2024 @04:32AM (#39776049)
Yeah I'm sure that's true. It'd be nice to be able to opt out though while you're in the first pass research phase.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by benrapscallion on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:15AM (#39775618)
Can someone recommend lightweight alternatives to Paperpile or EndNote that have two essential features: 1. Rename a PDF file to a consistent (Author Year Journal) format. 2. Online sync (Mac, iOS and web access) - including via say iCloud or Dropbox.

Maybe this just needs a script? I just paid $100 for EndNote 21 yesterday and don’t think these needs justify that cost.

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by zoizoi on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:28AM (#39775677)
Maybe try Zotero[1]. There are many addons which can do what you need.

[1]https://www.zotero.org/

Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jwr on Thursday March 21, 2024 @04:40AM (#39776094)
Already counting the days until this inevitably gets killed. I've been burned too many times to rely on Google for anything, except tracking me and pushing ads, which they indeed do better every day.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by LightBug1 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @05:52AM (#39776592)
This was promising, but they announced the sunset of this yesterday. The news hasn't propagated yet.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by coeus77 on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:50AM (#39779187)
Where did you see the announcement they sunset it?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by ddalex on Thursday March 21, 2024 @11:05AM (#39779416)
In an effort to accelerate the development life-cycle, Google will now release sunset announcements before the product release.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by blagie on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:11PM (#39780497)
I saw that announcement, but I thought they changed their mind about a week before it was announced?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by halfmatthalfcat on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:57PM (#39781208)
They're sunsetting the sunset?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by occamrazor on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:07AM (#39778688)
Scholar is heavily used internally, it’s unlikely to be discontinued even if it has never brought any money to Google.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by kadoban on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:46AM (#39779130)
This is about a PDF reader though, not Google Scholar itself.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by biofox on Thursday March 21, 2024 @11:36AM (#39779885)
Google Reader and RSS feeds were also heavily used internally :(
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by tibbydudeza on Thursday March 21, 2024 @12:24PM (#39780699)
What replaced it - Google Wave ???.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by cityhall on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:48PM (#39781964)
I wonder if their real intent is to gather training data on which parts of papers are considered important by readers, and which topics are related to each other.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by bookofjoe on Thursday March 21, 2024 @03:39PM (#39783405)
Even so, isn't something better than nothing?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by fattybob on Thursday March 21, 2024 @04:48PM (#39784204)
Totally agree, seems all Google stuff has a life expectancy countdown
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by moritz64 on Friday March 22, 2024 @05:16AM (#39788777)
google has worked hard to earn this reputation. i don't want to rely on any part of the google ecosystem anymore.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by chombier on Thursday March 21, 2024 @05:54AM (#39776608)
So I guess this a way for Google to gather (more/fine-grain) data on paper skimming/research interest?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by woctordho on Thursday March 21, 2024 @06:09AM (#39776708)
When can we have a PDF reader where we can hover over a symbol and see its definition?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by lordswork on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:40AM (#39777800)
What kind of symbol?
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by RandomWorker on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:33AM (#39777721)
Alt+<- brings you back to where you were after clicking on a reference. You can skip around pretty easily to see the referenced object and this overlay does seem kinda interesting it’s not something crucial.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by notsahil on Thursday March 21, 2024 @08:36AM (#39777761)
Zotero is the one I use but found this one useful too: https://synthical.com/
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by jccalhoun on Thursday March 21, 2024 @10:22AM (#39778827)
It is really nice to see google scholar get some attention. It is essential for a lot of academics and it would be horrible if google "sunset"ed it.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by orsenthil on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:23PM (#39782414)
I use an extension called histre, https://histre.com/ for annotation and keeping up with _notes_ / _thoughts_ inline. I found that using tools like Fermat's Library, which provides side bar annotation, histre for inline highlight, annotation and multi-references, and ChatGPT to understand complex terms, all helped with understand recent papers. Even a medical journal paper, https://senthil.learntosolveit.com/posts/2023/10/21/medical-... for me, in one instance.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by orsenthil on Sunday March 24, 2024 @11:46AM (#39807935)
I tried Google Scholar after this comment. Google Scholar PDF is a valuable addition to the research community. There isn't any tool that can give direct hyperlink to the references in the research paper, and this does it, as inline hover, and it is incredibly useful to navigate and follow the references.
Re:Google Scholar PDF Reader by lenkite on Saturday March 23, 2024 @06:07AM (#39798731)
This will be in the Google Graveyard https://killedbygoogle.com/ by mid-2026.