I subscribe to YouTube Premium but to consider it a replacement to a proper podcasting app seems naive to me.
I love how hard people will advocate for their YouTube subscriptions like it’s the best thing ever.
YouTube’s recent changes are so Hollywood entertainment exec-esque lately (hey you got to make earnings at all costs!), as they gradually enshitify the Internet’s most popular and important content type, and they can do pretty much whatever they want because, really, they are an effective monopoly for UGC video delivery.
People LOVE espousing their “ad free subscriptions” and rail about the cost of video infrastructure, because they probably don’t remember when copyright broke down and there was a glimmer of the lack of false scarcity digital delivery actually could have created. You can’t download a car.
Google and Comcast literally were the ones who killed off peer-to-peer and decentralized solutions and made sure no competitor emerged. Bram Cohen had it right, but freedom scared big tech and video killed the radio star.
But please tell me how awesome YouTube “ad free” accounts are. In the meantime, enjoy shorts!
I miss the free Internet and actual disruptive innovation so much.
I err on the side of people have been so sick of YT's badgering that Premium truly feels like a great solution - despite that only being the case because of Google creating the problem in the first place.
“Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken.”
But, also, I feel like they've sort of got me as a captive audience right now because YouTube's the only video platform that has a sizable international creator base.
You can subscribe to any podcast (RSS/Atom) feed via the YouTube Music app.
I think it comes down to how often you use the platform. YouTube has been my primary media source for the last twelve years and ads are what paid for that. Now that I can pay $14 (USD) per month to give the people I watch a bit more, have no ads, downloads, and a few other nice little features, it was a no brainer for me. I have always gotten _way_ more mileage out of YouTube than HBO or Netflix.
But if you don't, then it's probably not worth it and having an advertisement will pay for it instead.
YouTube Premium is $19/mo
in the US, going through the official website, it shows $14 a month or $11.66 a month if paying for the upcoming year at once. Premium and Music are part of the same product here and I'm not sure if you can unbundle.
For comparison, Spotify Premium here looks to be $11/mo.
It's much cheaper in developing countries
At the same time I can't shake the feeling that Google just enshitified the experience so much, that now "it's logical" to take a sub to make it decent again.
Plus, they still track & profile & model your behaviour with ai
When you love something, the payment is patronization. You want the thing to continue to exist.
Sign up for a Patreon then. Paying Google to support a creator is like paying the brothel madam because you love the courtesan.
This is why people should never be given anything for free, ungratefulness and entitlement is the only reward. I'll greatly enjoy when everything is behind a cheap paywall, giving creators their fair share and leaving penny pinchers in the dust.
It’s a ridiculous amount of money to spend to financially support Google’s exploitation of content creators and abusive “copyright” system, just so you can watch content they (a) already stream for free and (b) is already full of product placements, stealth marketing, sponsored segments, etc.
No way in hell I’m paying a huge premium for that.
Like a sibling comment, I now also buy CDs and LPs of albums realeased in the pre-streaming era, depending on which format the album was made for. But I always immediately rip the CDs into FLAC because I'd forgotten how brittle they can be in terms of a slight scratch ruining one or more tracks.
And for more recent stuff that I really like, even if I hear it on Spotify, I try to buy it on Bandcamp or similar, so there's some cash going directly to the artist.
What all that doesn't solve for me is discovery, which I find is significantly better on Spotify than the Apple Music service. (Or the worse audio quality of Spotify compared to Tidal - my test album is always Selected Ambient Works 85-92 by Aphex Twin. There's no hiding when it comes to the synth hi-hats at the beginning of Xtal.)
Seriously considering just getting a record player so I can get rid of these middle men though. It's too much.
Do it! I started buying CDs again, and it's great. I get the best quality sound — we can argue about that another time ;) — all the music is _mine_, and after I convert it to FLAC for my walkman or iPhone (play via VLC) it's as convenient.
At this point, we need a bill in Congress to establish that "ads are ads" and that "ad-free must be ad-free".
I mean Spotify already kind of does it with JRE. It doesn't feel right that he's got his own ads despite the very lucrative deal he got, and I'm still forced to listen to him drone on about yet another generic vpn service even though I'm paying for a subscription.
Once they dial in the optimal combo of ad rate and cost to skip, personalized to each user, oh boy the money will flow.
On mobile they’re not auto-skippable.
Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.