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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by akprasad on Thursday November 16, 2023 @12:39PM (#38292708)
I just donated $10 to Signal. Here's how to do so on iPhone in less than a minute:

1. Open Signal and click on your user icon in the upper left.

2. Go to "Settings" --> "Donate to Signal".

3. Click "Donate", select your donation options, and pay with Apple Pay.

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by olejorgenb on Thursday November 16, 2023 @12:52PM (#38292902)
Does this entail a 30% cut to Apple/Google?
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by bilal4hmed on Thursday November 16, 2023 @12:53PM (#38292924)
https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360031949872-Do...

Easy google , but no it doesn't

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by aendruk on Thursday November 16, 2023 @01:51PM (#38293683) 

  #cut
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by aendruk on Friday November 17, 2023 @01:51AM (#38300378)
It’s the missing URL fragment.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by smolyeet on Thursday November 16, 2023 @05:14PM (#38296358)
Does it matter. 70% of something is better than 100% of nothing.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by squeaky-clean on Thursday November 16, 2023 @06:04PM (#38296924)
Because this isn't the only one way to donate, and if it were subject to the 30% cut, most people would want to know they could spend a couple extra hours steps for 30% additional impact on their donation.

Very few people are going "No apple pay? No donation."

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by thaumasiotes on Thursday November 16, 2023 @09:32PM (#38298623)
> if it were subject to the 30% cut, most people would want to know they could spend a couple extra hours steps for 30% additional impact on their donation.

43% additional impact.

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by yreg on Thursday November 16, 2023 @06:09PM (#38296974)
Of course it does, if there would be both 70% and 100% options to donate.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by byhemechi on Friday November 17, 2023 @01:34AM (#38300267)
Not on apple, at least

https://developer.apple.com/apple-pay/nonprofits/

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by mplanchard on Thursday November 16, 2023 @12:53PM (#38292923)
I’ve got a recurring donation of $5/mo I set up ages ago
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by Melting_Harps on Thursday November 16, 2023 @02:08PM (#38293894)
> I’ve got a recurring donation of $5/mo I set up ages ago

Thanks for that, I did a one off 300 euro donation back in '21 during the bubble market; Meredith has been doing the rounds [0] and she hits on lots of good points, and even went to the UK over their now failed bill during the Summer.

0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykfABSBeAVo

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by niuzeta on Thursday November 16, 2023 @03:31PM (#38295027)
Me too! Set it up once and forget. I love their work and Unlike any other charity/nonprofit that I've donated to, they never bother me any further.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by seoulbran on Thursday November 16, 2023 @07:00PM (#38297415)
Me too
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by godelski on Thursday November 16, 2023 @01:57PM (#38293756)
Also a reminder, your work might have a donation matching system. All the major tech companies do, so you can really boost your effect.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by nurple on Thursday November 16, 2023 @02:34PM (#38294266)
I guess maybe I'm missing the purported point of signal, attaching your phone number to use it notwithstanding, but attaching payment identity to it as well? Like, what's the point of going through the pain required to use it?
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by Krasnol on Thursday November 16, 2023 @02:49PM (#38294488)
Signal is not for anonymity.

It's for security.

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by c0pium on Friday November 17, 2023 @12:37AM (#38299989)
For some anonymity is security. Better to say it’s for message confidentiality.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by hutzlibu on Thursday November 16, 2023 @02:51PM (#38294512)
It is not meant as a anonymous messager, but an encrypted one, you can trust to not sell you out.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by amelius on Friday November 17, 2023 @05:41AM (#38301762)
What is the basis of that trust?
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by hutzlibu on Friday November 17, 2023 @10:56AM (#38305300)
Open source client AND open source server. And a quite transparent non profit running it.

But personally I actually would prefer a federated alternative like matrix.

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by chimeracoder on Thursday November 16, 2023 @02:56PM (#38294596)
> I guess maybe I'm missing the purported point of signal, attaching your phone number to use it notwithstanding, but attaching payment identity to it as well? Like, what's the point of going through the pain required to use it?

Your payment info is not connected to your account.

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360031949872-Do...

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by thaumasiotes on Thursday November 16, 2023 @09:34PM (#38298639)
The suggestion here is to use your iPhone to pay through Apple Pay.

Does Apple have any records connecting your recurring Apple Pay payment to your iPhone's phone number?

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by Vinnl on Friday November 17, 2023 @08:19AM (#38303086)
If you want to avoid that you can also donate through https://signal.org/donate/.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by nerdbert on Thursday November 16, 2023 @05:34PM (#38296594)
Most people using Signal - and particularly most people likely to donate - are not using it to hide their identities, but to decrease the chance of unknown parties reading their conversations. My Signal account has my full name on it, and checking my top contacts, most of them do too (some only have their first name).
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by hgomersall on Thursday November 16, 2023 @03:30PM (#38295015)
There doesn't seem to be a way to pay annually, which I'd prefer to a monthly payment. £5/month is just a little high, but I'd merrily pay half that or £30/year.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by spiznnx on Thursday November 16, 2023 @07:20PM (#38297592)
If you really need a lower tier, you can switch currencies to JPY, there's a monthly option for 500JPY which is about 2.67GBP.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by Vinnl on Friday November 17, 2023 @08:18AM (#38303081)
There are two forms at https://signal.org/donate/, the second one lets you set a yearly donation at a custom amount (and both forms a monthly donation at a custom amount).
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by qwerpy on Thursday November 16, 2023 @03:33PM (#38295050)
I had an old Apple Store & iTunes gift card laying around so I redeemed it and attempted to use it to donate via Apple Pay, but get "Apple Account - Not enabled for in app payments". Google isn't very helpful about exactly why. Am I missing some KYC somewhere or are payments of this type prohibited from "Apple Account" balances?
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by denysvitali on Thursday November 16, 2023 @03:35PM (#38295074)
So you donated to Apple too in the process?
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by Vicinity9635 on Thursday November 16, 2023 @03:39PM (#38295123)
Thanks, I just setup a $5 a month donation.

Love what signal's doing for the world.

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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by marssaxman on Thursday November 16, 2023 @04:15PM (#38295644)
Thanks for the suggestion; I just signed up for the $5/month plan. I have been using Signal for years, but never considered donating anything before.
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Re:Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive by Pr0ject217 on Thursday November 16, 2023 @06:38PM (#38297227)
:thumbs_up
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