[0] (de) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max-Planck-Gesellschaft

[1] (en) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Planck_Society

I've witnessed visiting Indian colleagues of mine being threatened on the street for having dark skin and racist demonstrations are a weekly occurrence. I eventually moved away (among other reasons) because I didn't want my kids to grow up in this environment.

It was quite difficult to hire international talent there for the same reasons.

The city itself and university are super nice though.

There are a lot of minorities in Germany, which (sadly have to) accept daily racism.

Thankfully, at this point violence against minorities (~800 right extremists violent crimes in 2022 in whole Germany) is not as high such that people consider moving away.

And if you get a job there and this is your ticket into immigration, probably a lot of people will accept this to get German citizenship. Finally, this will open you access to all the working places in Europe.

My hope (as a West German) is that investments like this, will increase East-Germany's economy such that they are finally equal in terms of economic wealth, which is a large factor for racism/extremism.

Same with opposing climate change laws.

Because he said Indians are attacked on the street in Dresden.

If that's the case why would you move and open a restaurant there if you're Indian?

Or was he exaggerating the issue?

Because some things do not show immediately and officially all is fine in Dresden. Also the racism that was hiding for some time now shows itself very openly.

(In 1989 the city’s Jewish population was 30.)

Is this a bad joke? Is it possible that you actually don't comprehend the ramifications of eternal human labor trafficking?

Probably not. I don't even know what it means/you mean.

Regardless, doesn't matter, since their entire point is based on a very flawed and naive idea of economic development.

What does this mean? Are there people being trafficked in eastern Germany?

My guess is that you are referring to the difference in wealth between India and Germany. I'm not sure that the pearl clutching was helpful. It would have been better to clarify your assumptions or If indeed you were talking about Germany internal issues then clarify how labor trafficking is a factor here. We'll all be better for it.

Money in the region would help but I don't see it happening since Poland is just a few km away and a more lucrative target for attracting investments from west Germany due to having less red tape, and lower taxes and regulations.

East Germany can't compete with that so it seems it be forever be this "desert" in between west Germany and Poland where nobody wants to live and invest.

I see this as a fault of the German gov for not making east Germany an attractive place for investors.

It's not. I've seen this play out before in my poor home town that become a hotspot for tech investments in the span of 10 years.

All those new jobs in the semi industry will require some skills and education, and people who have that kind of skills and education, are (usually) not racists to attack people on the streets based on their color and go to racist protests, but the contrary, tend to be well spoken and liberal.

It will simply increase the inequality between the uneducated racist locals and the well educated foreigners who come for those well paying jobs and raise rent prices and cost of living, throwing more fuel on the racist fire, and pointing the target on the foreigners for being to blame for making life more expensive for the locals.

This issue is solved through education and career re-orientation opportunities, not by bringing some high end jobs that are out of reach for those locals anyway.

Large scale outsourcing (and investments) to Poland, the Czech Republic and the rest of Eastern Europe had already happened during the 90s, after that it was China. Everything that can be outsourced in Germany has already been outsourced during the last 30 years, yet the sky hasn't fallen so far.

While all of what you say is true and problematic, there are people from all over the world living in Dresden and some parts (especially Neustadt) are politically rather left leaning.

Nu, nu. But do you talk with them about their experiences?

And sure, you will be fine with a dark skin in the Neustadt and Hechtviertel and co.

But move out of that bubble and you have to be prepared to face a different culture.

Police data for battery/assault 2019:

https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLageb...

Homicides 2020:

https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLageb...

Its not keyed up for race-based crimes, but less crime means also less space for race-based crimes.

Wherever this narrative came from, its dishonest. Its in every thread about Silicon Saxony.

1. Hate crimes are hugely different from battery/assault, so I'm not sure how your reference adds anything 2. Police data is not a trustworthy source, as police is biased too. Just check some news articles about police refusing to even take in a report about hate crime, where this is more likely to happen, and consider what this means for the stats you're quoting

2. You distrust police data and then tell me to refer to journalists instead. Same people who need to exaggerate their findings to generate income.

What am i doing here. You should be the one bringing up numbers on how Saxony is worse.

However, based on your cliché populist statement of distrusting any media because it's biased, I don't see a point in continuing.

I had to spend half a year in the ass cracks of Niederbayern... not something I'd like to repeat. People openly talking "something like that (i.e. LGBT) wouldn't have been a thing under Hitler" over their beers or someone shouting Sieg and the full pub responding Heil ("Sieg Heil" was the verbal Nazi salute) is common there.

And then, these very same people have the audacity to complain that "the gays" lure their children away to the cities... no you moron, you shouting Nazi salutes in a pub does.

god this place has gone down the shitter

And you backed them up with even more fearmongering. Why is a self-proclaimed antifascist using fascist methods? "Its justified when *I* do it" my ass. The AfD is problem enough, don't add to it. Bring your points across without fearmongering against groups of people.

What fearmongering?! FFS. Just look at the election results of the 2021 elections, it's not by chance that the AfD is stronger in the rural areas - they were 2nd in Straubing, which is the area where I lived.

[1] https://www.bundestagswahl2021.bayern.de/ergebnis_regierungs...

Be careful not to read more into my sayings than what i wrote. Its not an agreement, its an accusation.

lmfao

does this also go for an encounter with someone who judges people based on their point of view? On their politics? On their religion, or lack thereof? On their handedness? On their hair colour, length, foot size, athletic ability or any other similar attribute?

All you need is one in-your-face accusation of being a Nazi/racist/homophobe/transphobe/ableist/bible-thumper/southpaw/ginger/proudfoot (proudfeet!)/YT/... to ruin your decade? $Deity knows many of us will have been called something like that, in 99.999(*)% of the cases without justification yet most of us just shrug it off and go on with our lives, ignoring the labeller for the non-entity she tends to be. That is how it works, at least in my experience.

>The city itself and university are super nice though.

Then, I hope this will get more widespread :)

Is this an actual thing or just something pushed up because victimhood is idolized too much? The blue collar workers here are diverse af.

Good flame-bait.

So, like the US?

Because white nationalism is more and more becoming part of the mainstream. GOP is perfectly capable of hosting moderates and quazi-nazis at the same time.

There are probably places with similar problems although I can't name any. Can you?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison,_Arkansas

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmlvk9GAto

I went on a beach vacation with some French friends and was sort of stunned/apalled at the sort of non-stop "it is all the muslim/immigrants" fault talk.

French people are known to be rather nationalist though (In the same way US Americans are), but a rampant problem? I have to disagree, it's just like the rest of the world, people need their scapegoat.

To be fair, the social and economic divisions between white French natives and immigrants is large. There is a excellent article in Financial Times about it: <<French riots show how entrenched inequalities have become / The gulf between immigrants and those born in the country is larger than in almost any other developed nation>>: https://www.ft.com/content/25eda9f0-8bd3-41e1-948c-89cc7c0ec...

The solution is to keep talking about it, and continue studying the issue.

1930s? How about 2023 :)

My take, if you want to have a bleeding edge semiconductor industry in your country, first start by trying to build a boring, vanilla, outdated semiconductor industry. If you can do that, then try incrementally making it competitive with global markets. (Yes, this requires tariffs initially to bootstrap the process, otherwise nobody will by your shitty overpriced semiconductors.)

[0] https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/book-review-how-asia-w...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/VEB_Robotron

Source: Invisible China by Scott Rozelle which does a great job explaining economic development and comparing different countries.

Like what if SK & Malaysia took the opposite approaches? How do we know that SK wouldn't still have been the successful one, and we'd be saying everyone should take the opposite approach because that's what SK did and it worked?

South Korea exports consumer goods to the large US market, this has been a massive fuel for their growth. They followed in Japan's footsteps (and China, for a time at least, followed in theirs). I can't think of a single manufactured product out of Greece, Hungary, Austria and few from Italy to the US.

Being on an "empire gradient" is just an arbitrary way to look at a country.

You know who else is on an empire gradient? North Korea. Afghanistan. Belarus. You're not even specifying which side of the empire gradient. Maybe being on the authoritarian, communist side did not work out so well for many countries?

I think what matters for South Korea is moving steadily toward more democratic governance, embracing capitalism, and proximity and historic ties with Japan (not always pleasant, obviously, but ties nonetheless) at a time when Japan was developing robust trade with the US and when Japan's own consumer sector was booming, providing another market for Korean firms.

Korea has absolutely followed the pattern of moving steadily up the value chain, for example in consumer electronics, in autos.

    I can't think of a single manufactured product out of Greece, Hungary, Austria and few from Italy to the US.

Edit: To be clear: Please do not read this post as bashing Korea. I think they are doing an amazing job in the last 50 years growing themselves out of poverty. It is a crazy and amazing story.

"Silicon Saxony is a registered industry association of nearly 300 companies in the microelectronics and related sectors in Saxony, Germany, with around 40,000 employees. Many, but not all, of those firms are situated in the north of Dresden. [...]

[T]he area and the union — in many aspects — represent the only meaningful European center of microelectronics.", excerpt from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Saxony

As always its a little more then that..

Otherwise they have everything they would need for a great hub. Smart and well educated students. A great university and cultural scene.