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Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by umanwizard on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:49PM (#36934610)
If there were only one person holding up the sky, how long would the developer keep his Supabase instance up for?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by highwaylights on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:50PM (#36934628)
Well it’s not about to fall for a while now is it?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Animats on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:54PM (#36934669)
"The sky has fallen 989 times."

Use this for A/B testing of ads?

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by booleandilemma on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:53PM (#36934656)
I'm just going to shrug.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by benatkin on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:42PM (#36935133)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by balaji1 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:44PM (#36935767)
a shrug and an upvote from me
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by charles_f on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:20PM (#36936101)
I had to come back to this post to upvote it, 5m later, after letting out an audible "aaahhhhhh" in the kitchen
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by xeonmc on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:22PM (#36936606)
Such a great title, wasted on such poor writing.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by mandmandam on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:42PM (#36937215)
If only poor writing was the worst of its qualities :/
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by xeonmc on Sunday July 30, 2023 @08:05PM (#36937407)
On the other hand, Bioshock was precisely the opposite: everything about it was masterful except for the title.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by rob74 on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:31AM (#36940069)
Being a more-or-less sequel to the equally sublime System Shock series, they had to choose something with "Shock" for the title...
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by rob74 on Monday July 31, 2023 @04:28AM (#36940056)
I learned about Ayn Rand second-hand thanks to the Bioshock series (which took place in a retrofuturistic submarine dystopia produced by a strictly libertarian society), so I got the reference right away...
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by e-master on Monday July 31, 2023 @03:21AM (#36939667)
Who’s John Galt anyway…
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by cpersona on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:55PM (#36934674)
I feel disincentivized to hold up the sky. What’s my motivation?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by umanwizard on Sunday July 30, 2023 @02:56PM (#36934679)
So that it doesn't fall.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by lijok on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:13PM (#36935446)
Motivation is your motivation
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Joeboy on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:32PM (#36935642)
You don't need motivation, you need discipline.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by joot82 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:34PM (#36935663)
Same motivation as forwarding chain letters. Being superstitious and hope for invisible internet magic helping those poor orphans in need out. Just that you hold up the sky here.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by brmgb on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:03PM (#36934751)
This reminds me of the Button [1] experiment Reddit held in 2015. The interplay between the effect of the countdown reaching zero, the badge associated with clicking and the single use mechanics were quite interesting to witness. It was quite popular for a surprisingly long time.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Button_(Reddit)

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by abra0 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:18PM (#36936086)
>It was quite popular for a surprisingly long time.

Hah, that's a blast from the past. One reason it lasted as long as it did was the Knights of the Button, users who collaborated to keep it alive. I implemented the Zombie-presser, 1k+ donated accounts automatically pressing the button when no one else would. We kept it alive for a more then a month before the most embarrassing bug of my career finally killed it :D Good summary here [1].

Fun times! Thank you for the reminder :D

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/08/reddits-m...

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by teaearlgraycold on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:47PM (#36936347)
What was the bug?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by abra0 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:24PM (#36936622)
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Jarwain on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:50PM (#36936375)
> The final point of failure was even less spectacular: a co-ordinated attempt to keep the button alive by automatically pressing it with donated accounts when it got too low had been working on overtime, but a fatal flaw meant that no-one bothered to check whether the anointed account actually could press.

> The bot queued up the account, attempted to press the button – and found that the account had been registered after 1 April.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by jackphilson on Monday July 31, 2023 @05:52AM (#36940481)
This seems like one of the first things they would check for though, right?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by hattar on Monday July 31, 2023 @09:38AM (#36942280)
> the most embarrassing bug of my career

Though to be honest, if that’s the most embarrassing bug abra0 is doing great.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by thatxliner on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:31PM (#36937118)
So that’s where the Hermitcraft button took inspiration from
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by dstainer on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:08AM (#36939011)
Was hoping someone would drop a HermitCraft reference!
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by robertlagrant on Monday July 31, 2023 @09:19AM (#36942077)
> dubbed "The Pressiah" by the community

Sometimes Reddit is excellent.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by thirdplace_ on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:07PM (#36934790)
shrug
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by johnnyworker on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:07PM (#36934794)
> There are 0 other users online. > The sky has fallen 0 times.

courtesy of uMatrix ^^

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Jowsey on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:14PM (#36934849)
> I disabled JavaScript on your site that conceptually requires JavaScript to function and now it doesn't work as expected
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by johnnyworker on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:16PM (#36934883)
That wasn't meant as a complaint, more like a "cheat". I also didn't disable JS, it's just uMatrix blocks third party stuff by default.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by predictabl3 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:17PM (#36934886)
It seems like given the tricks I've seen with long-http requests and browsers, it might be possible to implement a version that doesn't require JS.

I think that would also have the effect of being able to easily curl it. Could just add a lil nixos module and quietly deploy it to a few servers. Gotta keep the sky up, of course.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by benatkin on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:11PM (#36934823)
Sponsored by Atlassian.

The actual word for pertaining to Atlas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantean

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by bobmaxup on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:50PM (#36936813)
Maybe they chose that name a disambiguation so as to be only associated with the god Atlas, and not the city Atlantis or its suggested founding leader Atlas (son of Poseidon).
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by benatkin on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:42PM (#36938247)
I think they just like making puns. A founder had a blog called "rebelutionary". slide 4 here: https://slideplayer.com/slide/5874486/ http://blogs.atlassian.com/rebelutionary/archives/000834.htm... (dead link)
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by RedNifre on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:14PM (#36934856)
This would be interesting as a one-off thing, like reddit's "The Button". Having it say "The sky has fallen 989 times." makes it a bit meaningless.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by float4 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:21PM (#36934928)
Or at least show us how long the sky's been up currently? I have no idea if this page is 2 days or 2 years old, and I'm too lazy to check archive.org.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by surfpel on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:24PM (#36935567)
For me it says "There are 0 other users online. The sky has fallen 0 times." which is less believable right after I refresh the page
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by eastbound on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:40PM (#36936724)
But if the sky falls while no-one is here, does it make a sound?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Jarwain on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:52PM (#36936383)
I'm confused I've seen two other commenter's say fhe sky's fallen 989 times, but it only says 981 for me
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by cglong on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:40PM (#36938238)
Can confirm, it was 989 earlier today and is 981 now...
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by uka on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:17PM (#36934884)
Just another page counter in the 90s - a game in 21st century ...
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by amelius on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:20PM (#36934916)
If nobody sees the sky falling, it doesn't fall.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by melx on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:31PM (#36935028)
That's why we have timezones, so that not all humanity is asleep at the same time.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by anotherevan on Sunday July 30, 2023 @08:18PM (#36937496)
That was actually one minor plot point in Robert Sawyer's novel, Flashforward, that stuck in my mind. When everyone on the planet lost consciousness at the same time (their minds being projected into the future) all video recording just saw essentially static.

The theory was that it was actually recording the quantum froth as it were, of the unresolved probabilities until an observer woke up and it collapsed into one outcome.

I'm perhaps not explaining it well. OTOH, it is called science-FICTION.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Tao3300 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:53PM (#36935244)
It's the web equivalent of the light inside your refrigerator.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by si1entstill on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:10PM (#36935417)
Schrödinger's refrigerator light.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by 1letterunixname on Monday July 31, 2023 @12:20AM (#36938775)
Don't give refrigerator manufacturers any ideas about cost-cutting strategies.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by 1letterunixname on Monday July 31, 2023 @12:18AM (#36938763)
And if a sky falls in a forest and there's no one left to hear it because they were squished by the sky, it doesn't make a sound either.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by boopmaster on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:52PM (#36935235)
TIL: do read the comments before opening the subject URL.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by praptak on Sunday July 30, 2023 @03:52PM (#36935243)
I remember something with the same mechanics, it was about an astronaut who dies when the number of people playing (connecting) drops to zero.

Can't find it though.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by janoelze on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:10PM (#36935421)
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by doersino on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:02PM (#36935327)
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by happyasday on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:04PM (#36935356)
-shrug-
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by supportengineer on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:24PM (#36935566)
I let the sky fall, but the counter did not increment when I came back
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by withinboredom on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:33PM (#36935655)
Probably because your browser still has a background connection to the server.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by pmontra on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:32PM (#36935650)
If the sky falls do we see what's above it or will it fall upon us together with the sky?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by parentheses on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:38PM (#36935701)
scaling this would make a great system design interview question. rather than building a larger system, build something that takes consistency, availability and fault tolerance to an extreme.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by dmvdoug on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:52PM (#36935831)
Joke’s on him. It’s really turtles all the way down.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by 1letterunixname on Monday July 31, 2023 @12:23AM (#36938788)
Respect the turtleschild radius, or end up with a turtlenova and a turtlehole (don't go there).
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by RivieraKid on Sunday July 30, 2023 @04:57PM (#36935893)
Yawn. Yes, I'm not fun at parties.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by charles_f on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:16PM (#36936073)
I am Nike, the sky is holding me
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by dalmo3 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:35PM (#36936238)
I am standing. Adidas is holding me.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by thepaulthomson on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:33PM (#36936221)
Would be interesting to see a "high-score" gamification loop that tells us what the longest stretch of the sky not falling has been.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by wardedVibe on Sunday July 30, 2023 @05:41PM (#36936293)
Lemme just throw this on the pile of a hundred tabs I have open. It seems perfectly content to be a background tab
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by paulpauper on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:32PM (#36936678)
looks like another novelty page meant specifically for getting to the front page of Hacker News, which in a year will be abandoned or turned into seo fodder. .
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by quickthrower2 on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:52PM (#36936829)
Looking in the network tab, there are a lot of 406 responses. What is that all about?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by anonu on Sunday July 30, 2023 @07:33PM (#36937130)
The /ActivePlayers endpoint [1] returns an array of all active users, of which there are only 20-30 right now. What happens when/if there are 1000s ? This will fall over...

[1] https://glkmsstwzynytciznsqo.supabase.co/rest/v1/ActivePlaye...

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by m0llusk on Sunday July 30, 2023 @08:21PM (#36937508)
your stupid
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by schappim on Sunday July 30, 2023 @08:29PM (#36937560)
I can see a logical progression here... Next, you need to keep mining cryptocurrency in the browser, otherwise the earth will implode. The earth has imploded 23 times.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by BLKNSLVR on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:41PM (#36938241)
You need to follow an engineering standard checklist and a pre-journey checklist to prevent your submersible from imploding.

Submersible imploded once.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by xwdv on Sunday July 30, 2023 @10:18PM (#36938130)
We need a paid version of this where we can put in some money to hold up the sky.
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by eternityforest on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:03AM (#36938983)
Really cool! Maybe it could have a timer that shows how long since the last time the sky fell?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by jasonlaster11 on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:07AM (#36939004)
I was curious how the game was built so I recorded this replay. Fun to see how it's using Supabase for the global state.

https://app.replay.io/recording/replay-of-youareatlascom--75...

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by KirillPanov on Monday July 31, 2023 @02:59AM (#36939562)
> You need to enable JavaScript to run this app.

Apparently the sky has fallen.

Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by Polarity on Monday July 31, 2023 @05:40AM (#36940401)
- /info is broken (try reloading it) - js is half a mb - app is polling the db way too fast - app is a small counter but uses react, which is made for big scale social networks - its made in 48h, which is wayyy too long?
Re:You Are Atlas, You Hold Up the Sky by joshvince on Monday July 31, 2023 @06:15AM (#36940625)
You must be fun at parties!