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Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by gattilorenz on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:01AM (#35750709)
Everything else makes perfect sense, but

> I also use Himalayan pink salt, because table salt has no nutritional value

It’s… salt. Himalayan pink salt also has no real nutritional value (it is probably lacking iodine tho), it’s just salt with inclusions of other mineral that you get in much larger quantities with regular food. Unless you literally eat large chunks of salt every day, I guess.

Pink salt is a fad/marketing thing, exactly as margarine was…

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by xref on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:07AM (#35750741)
Then why does pink salt taste so much better in my de-ionized water and colloidal silver smoothies?
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by xattt on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:36AM (#35750896)
Is it the silver chloride precipitating inside your tastebuds? ;)
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by SergeAx on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:17AM (#35753724)
Try a double blind tasting. I don't knjow people who can tell pink salt from plain kitchen salt by taste, and I am familiar with a number of professional wine sommeliers.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by harshalizee on Saturday April 29, 2023 @12:29PM (#35754416)
You can totally tell the difference between sea salt, Himalayan salt and table salt.

They change the flavor profile of many foods drastically.

Even though table salt is probably better for you sure to the iodine content, pink salt is just so much better for the taste buds.

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by SergeAx on Saturday April 29, 2023 @12:33PM (#35754455)
I would love to meet someone who can do it in a double blind test with distilled water.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by skylurk on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:34PM (#35755107)
Flavour is highly influenced by color. Tasting happens in the brain.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by yial on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:21PM (#35758262)
A lot of the taste difference with salt comes from the size it’s ground to, or at least that’s what I was told in the one cooking class. Hence why you might want to sprinkle a steak with large chunks of salt, but use finely ground somewhere else.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by air7 on Sunday April 30, 2023 @10:24AM (#35762836)
Did you know that professional wine sommeliers confuse white wine and red wine if tricked by visual cues?

https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/08/the_most_infam...

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by SergeAx on Sunday April 30, 2023 @01:24PM (#35764649)
This is why tasting should be at least blind.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by baby on Sunday April 30, 2023 @12:38AM (#35759728)
It’s interesting because personally I find pink salt lacking in taste and never use it in my dishes
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by mandmandam on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:42AM (#35750920)
> Pink salt is a fad/marketing thing, exactly as margarine was…

Only if you believe microplastics are harmless (you really shouldn't).

Sea salt consistently has far more plastic in it than rock salt. If I'm reading this study [0] right, it's about 10x more microplastics than rock salt, which makes sense if you think about it.

0 - https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.8b04180

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by kergonath on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:35AM (#35751184)
> If I'm reading this study [0] right, it's about 10x more microplastics than rock salt, which makes sense if you think about it.

Yes, it does make sense, but that’s because micro plastics are everywhere we bother to look. In the air, in the water, in the fish, in animals, etc. However, that is no evidence that the micro plastics we get from salt are significant in any way compared to other sources, particularly considering how little of the stuff we actually eat. From an ecological point of view, getting it from the sea is much better than ripping mountains apart to extract it.

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by gattilorenz on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:57AM (#35751000)
Even though I don’t care for micro plastics (e.g. I don’t look into it), I also buy (perfectly white) rock salt by chance. They dig it up 10 km from here, not on the Himalaya.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by brokenkebaby on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:31AM (#35751676)
It looks like you are equating pink salt, and mined salt. Mined salt usually colored in white-gray spectrum.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by Qem on Saturday April 29, 2023 @09:50AM (#35752840)
Given the inorganic nature of sea salt, I believe it should be feasible to remove most microplastics from it, by applying intense heat briefly, in an oxygen atmosphere, so the microplastic particles would just burn away.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by WillPostForFood on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:44AM (#35750929)
99% of the time we are using salt for flavor, not for the nutritional value. So the inclusion of a small amount of minerals has value in changing the flavor of the salt. Also, iodine adds a bad metallic taste, so that's another reason to choose something besides standard table salt.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by kergonath on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:28AM (#35751149)
> iodine adds a bad metallic taste

I cannot disagree more! Iodine is an essential part of sea salt. Rock salt is bland and boring in comparison. That said, I agree that refined salt is much worse.

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by shanebellone on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:30AM (#35751961)
"Iodine is an essential part of sea salt."

Naturally occurring iodine (in sea salt) does not compare in dosage to fortified (table) salt.

IIRC, fortified salt is recommended because iodine is uncommon in normal diets.

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by gattilorenz on Saturday April 29, 2023 @03:55AM (#35750988)
Sure, if you can notice such a “different taste” (I don’t, and certainly not in a dish, but maybe that’s me) and this has value for you, go ahead.

Iodine, tho, it’s something you actually need depending on where you live, so I’ll keep buying iodated salt until I move to the seaside…

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by beebeepka on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:18AM (#35751091)
I find myself reaching for the pink one more often than not. Taste has a lot more going for it than the concentrated white dust natrium chloride. It's also interesting that you cannot taste the difference. Do you usually consume lots of the stuff?
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by gattilorenz on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:50AM (#35751257)
> Do you usually consume lots of the stuff?

I mean… it’s salt? I use it to salt stuff, I don’t eat it alone. I use moderate (normal?) amounts, mostly in dishes.

For the most part it is not a topping or something that stays unmelted on top of a very bland food… but maybe it depends on what you cook and eat.

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by ghaff on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:27AM (#35751949)
Coarser-grained salt, if it's sprinkled on top of something, can give you more of a salt taste sensation which can often be desirable. But that's the effect of the size of the grains, not any trace mineral or other elements.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by gattilorenz on Saturday April 29, 2023 @10:43AM (#35753322)
Indeed, I do use coarser salt or fleur de sel, but only on few things (e.g. on top of a steak, fish, or on oven-baked potatoes), and I do notice the difference. To me, pink salt just doesn’t taste different to comparably-sized white salt in a noticeable way.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by CrampusDestrus on Saturday April 29, 2023 @04:50AM (#35751253)
Salts definitely have different flavors
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by mint2 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:30AM (#35751956)
Ever blind taste taste it on food where it’s not visible?
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by CrampusDestrus on Saturday April 29, 2023 @07:47AM (#35752041)
Yes, and it's noticeable. Most people don't feel the difference probably because the food they are adding it to is already extremely tasty. But trust me, put some salt on an unseasoned fish and you'll immediately taste the differences
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by andsoitis on Saturday April 29, 2023 @10:10AM (#35753015)
Yeah but could you tell the difference in a blind tasting between salt A, salt B, and salt C, on food? That was the question.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by CrampusDestrus on Saturday April 29, 2023 @11:49AM (#35754042)
What part of my reply did not answer that question? I said it depends on the food
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by redprince on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:43AM (#35751734)
>iodine adds a bad metallic taste

"Iodized salt in the U.S. contains 45 micrograms of iodine per gram of salt." [1]

There's no way anyone can taste that. If the iodide ion even has a distinct taste independent of its cation.

[1] https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-...

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by nottorp on Saturday April 29, 2023 @09:17AM (#35752604)
> There's no way anyone can taste that.

Hmm I'd check the last 'things i won't work with'.

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by 082349872349872 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @06:56AM (#35751786)
Unless you want goiter and cretinism, iodising salt is (for inland populations, at least) a big public health win.

(tangentially related: I once heard a story that there was some deficiency disease that was only diagnosed after WWII: it turns out allied officers in japanese POW camps got white, not brown, rice — and were massively affected by the disease in question while the enlisted men in the same camps were barely affected)

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by compressedgas on Saturday April 29, 2023 @08:34AM (#35752292)
I think that's Beriberi or thiamine (B1) deficiency.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/rice-disease-mystery-e...

Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by giantg2 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @08:36AM (#35752306)
Depends on the diet. These days it doesn't matter if you're inland or not. Seafood and seaweed are shipped worldwide.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by WillPostForFood on Saturday April 29, 2023 @01:52PM (#35755308)
Iodized salt was responding to a regional deficiency that was discovered 100+ years ago. The data that the decision was based on is completely obsolete.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by 082349872349872 on Saturday April 29, 2023 @02:54PM (#35755891)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodised_salt#In_public_health_... > Worldwide, iodine deficiency affects two billion people and is the leading preventable cause of intellectual and developmental disabilities.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by pkd on Saturday April 29, 2023 @02:57PM (#35755920)
It is not a problem that can be fixed "forever". Iodised salt solved it, so moving away to non-iodised salts can make it resurface. One should evaluate their own personal iodine intake - if you are not getting it from salt then you should be getting it from somewhere else.
Re:The Difference Between European and American Butter by Fnoord on Saturday April 29, 2023 @10:58AM (#35753493)
In The Netherlands, if you want your iodine dosage, all you need to do is eat bread once a day (I don't know if it counts for all bread like gluten-free). Because it is fortified with iodine. Other countries solve it differently, but you don't have to normally make up for it in The Netherlands.