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Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by sva_ on Sunday March 26, 2023 @02:14PM (#35317572)
The linked video is from 2013
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by hcrisp on Sunday March 26, 2023 @02:55PM (#35318092)
I was just thinking about this. Does folding your hands count as a gear? The interlocked fingers make for a tighter grasp. When viewed from the palm side they even look like a gear. It is not the natural state of the hands but many gears also spend time in an unmeshed state. What is the definition of a gear anyway?
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by kennywinker on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:15PM (#35318367)
Not an expert, but I feel like interlocking your hands does not count because the definition of a gear includes rotation, and transmission of motion. Interlocked hands don't rotate and they don't transmit motion.

Interlocking hands seems to me to be about grip strength. Sometimes it's easier to grip your other hand by interlocking than it is to grip the object you're lifting.

Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by noxer on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:46AM (#35324353)
Then the "gear" from this insect would also not count as it does not transfer motion. Its more like a joint that has teeth for extra grip.
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by zimpenfish on Monday March 27, 2023 @06:20AM (#35324877)
> an intricate gearing system that locks their back legs together, allowing both appendages to rotate at the exact same instant

That sounds like transmission of motion to me?

Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by cjrp on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:50AM (#35326663)
If I lock my hands together, rotating one of my wrists also rotates the other wrist. I'm not saying it's a _useful_ transfer of motion though!
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by bagacrap on Monday March 27, 2023 @10:29AM (#35327100)
Only if one leg is pushing the other leg
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by rantallion on Monday March 27, 2023 @11:17AM (#35327812)
> To confirm that the gears performed this function, the researchers performed a neat (albeit morbid) trick with some dead Issus. They manually cocked their legs back in a jumping position, then electrically stimulated the main jumping muscle in one leg so that the leg extended. Because it was rotationally locked by the gears, the other non-stimulated leg moved as well, and the dead insect jumped forward.
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by jacquesm on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:05PM (#35318236)
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by dang on Monday March 27, 2023 @02:27AM (#35323500)
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by ignoramous on Sunday March 26, 2023 @03:23PM (#35318481)
Reminds me of this pretty common but all the more spectacular: a close-up of super complex production line (gene transcription) driven by DNA strands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hk9jct2ozY / https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/7Hk9jct2ozY
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by djmips on Monday March 27, 2023 @04:47AM (#35324364)
What you posted is so cool! And look at ATP synthase! wow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpzp4RDGJI
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by bmitc on Monday March 27, 2023 @05:55AM (#35324746)
Thanks for posting that. It truly is mind blowing. It makes my head hurt just thinking about how life exists and it all starting with this insanity. In computing, there's this idea of a machine that could make itself, an idea Von Neumann toyed with. And yet, here is life, which figured it out billions (if not more) years ago. Makes you wonder just what in the hell is going on in this universe.

That video is seriously cool. Thanks again.

Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by ZeroGravitas on Monday March 27, 2023 @09:55AM (#35326710)
Youtube recommended a talk by the animator, which is fascinating:

https://youtu.be/qbyzEiBvbXw

Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by hombre_fatal on Monday March 27, 2023 @11:06AM (#35327655)
These vids always make me want to eat healthier and exercise. Don’t want to let my little subcelular machines down after all this work:(
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by 4878241143 on Monday March 27, 2023 @02:56AM (#35323651)
Cells. Interlinked.
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by baxtr on Monday March 27, 2023 @06:35AM (#35324957)
A tall white fountain played.
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by wanda on Monday March 27, 2023 @07:50AM (#35325471)
You're not even close to baseline!
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by jwilk on Monday March 27, 2023 @08:11AM (#35325647)
Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by unsupp0rted on Monday March 27, 2023 @01:02PM (#35329182)
If we had never invented gears, but somehow had invented microscopes, we might've eventually stumbled on this insect and gotten the idea for mechanical gears from observing its legs.

What other things on the technology tree did we skip over and might we discover out in some insect, bird or fish?

We still don't know how tiny insect brains are capable of using so little energy to do so much navigation and learning+memory, right?

Re:Close-Up of the First Mechanical Gear Ever Found in Nature by midoridensha on Tuesday March 28, 2023 @04:28AM (#35337457)
>What other things on the technology tree did we skip over and might we discover out in some insect, bird or fish?

Or beyond that, what fundamental physics principles have we somehow missed? Perhaps faster-than-light travel is actually really simple, and we somehow just haven't discovered it yet. Meanwhile, some much more primitive civilization elsewhere has, and is going to invade us soon with their FTL spaceships armed with... cannons equivalent to our Medieval weapons. They'll be in for a big surprise when we shoot back with guided missiles.