https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-w...
TV propagandist Olga Skabeeva claimed two days, so did Margarita Simonyan and many others:
https://twitter.com/ruinwanderer/status/1622142324015878144
as for russian invasion plans, good old potato man leaked them live on national TV https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/moldova-next-belarus-president-ma...
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/09/russia-putin-propaganda...
I would like to see a source as well, because I want to see sources for all claims I encounter online. Why should I trust a random person on a website?
No wonder social media starts to circulate the most bonkers things when no one is allowed to question even verifiable statements.
Political warfare is nothing new. Any intelligent person knows, if it doesn't have sources its not credible.
I dont actually remember the details of the plan but It was something like:
Massive armor convoy sent to Kyiv alongside the rapid capture of Hostomel airport and a then a giant airlift of troops towards a point very much close to Kyiv.
The disdain the commenter is showing for the Russian invasion plan is misplaced however. Most contemporary reports (Post battle of Kyiv) say that the Ukrainians were indeed caught by surprise, that Russian cyberwarfare managed to take out Ukrainian AA allowing for the helicopter Assault at Hostomel and that although Ukraine was sucessful It was a close call and losses were heavy.
Again you have to Dig a bit to avoid the propaganda narratives. The race to Kyiv was actually a Very Very close battle according to what we know now.
The whole 3 days to Kyiv was actually an overstatement. I believe it was more 13 days to capture Kyiv, 2-3 months for the whole country excluding the West which Russia didnt believe It could occupy without heavy resistance. But thats just written out from memory and i might be wrong on the details.
I believe that the Russian expectation was something similar to 2014, where initial Ukrainian resistance just collapsed or was innefective.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60562240
Link to actual russian piece: https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20...
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"The sources said that the initial US assessment from before the invasion – which anticipated that the Ukrainian capital would be overrun within one to four days of a Russian attack – remains the current expectation." [1]
"Milley (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) told lawmakers during closed-door briefings on Feb. 2 and 3 that a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine could result in the fall of Kyiv within 72-hours, and could come at a cost of 15,000 Ukrainian troop deaths and 4,000 Russian troop deaths." [2]
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It seems that the narrative largely swapped to this all being Putin's plan once it didn't work as out like our military/intelligence agencies expected.
[1] - https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/25/politics/kyiv-russia-ukra...
[2] - https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-milley-says-kyiv-could-fall-w...
And here is Sharij, a pro Russian journalist from Ukraine that's extremely popular, mocking all the reports of destruction of Russian forces on the first day and believing all the Russian lies, such as having destroyed all the anti aircraft systems of Ukraine: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gO6vuI2-BQ
You must also understand that in Russian culture it was common to mock Ukrainians as dumb farmer hicks, while thinking of themselves as highly technologically advanced.
Where did you get this info from? My experience growing up in USSR (in areas that are now Russia and Ukraine) was totally different. Ukraine had a reputation (well deserved) as a major tech hub. Most of Soviet space industry (military for one) was there -- rockets, missiles, rocket engines, electronics. Kiev University was one of the major place of learning rivaling MGU (Moscow State University). People from all over the Soviet Union were fighting nail and tooth to be allowed to move and live in Kiev. Yes, there were folk-jokes (anekdoty) about Ukrainians like about anybody else. This does not reflect in any form upon the fact that Ukraine was very highly developed republic within USSR. 3 out of 7 leader of USSR were Ukrainians (Khrushchev - 8 years, Brezhnev - 18 years in power, Chernenko - 2 years). Ukraine was always a force to recon with.
It was set aside but was later rediscovered and was first performed in 2001 by a Finnish orchestra.
I am, however, only talking about the Russian assumption of the ease of victory, where reality ended up being very different (7,000-9,000 Russian soldiers dead in a week in that one battle), and the evidence of it in the form of the musical instruments etc for the parade.
> This ties well into the "three days to Kyiv" expectation at the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Putin's statements from early on are all widely available (with English transcriptions) and they do not in anyway sound like the words of someone expecting to annex Ukraine into Russia in short order.
Which raises the question - why were we all fed this story? To what end?
The claim is that the Russian government said they would take Kiev in 3 days which of course was not a claim ever made. IN fact, nothing close was ever said. It was a a US general (Milley I believe) who popularized the "3 days to take Kiev" meme.
It came from us, not them. So why do you think we've been told otherwise?
But Zelenskiy responded with "I need ammo, not a ride", and instead of unarmed protesters, Russian riot police convoys driving into Ukraine were met by Armed Forces of Ukraine.[1]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12qWthUM_II (Riot helmets and shields are clearly visible.)