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Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by ryeguy_24 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:00PM (#25862639)
Wow, nostalgia, it's been years since even hearing about Tucows. Tucows was a huge part of my childhood from 10 to 18 years old. Good run and great early repository for software. Thanks Tucows.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by SummerlyMars on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:17PM (#25862856)
A former coworker of mine went to work there, and my immediate thought upon learning of this was "The download site?"

It turns out they're doing pretty well for themselves. They might not have much brand recognition these days, but they're a much bigger company than I thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucows

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by quietbritishjim on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:36PM (#25863129)
> In 2000, Tucows acquired Linux Weekly News.

What? I had no idea.

There's a reference too [1]. The next article [2] in that series (which was a retrospective about five years later) goes on to say:

> Meanwhile, by this time [2002], Tucows had come to terms with the fact that its acquisition (and ongoing operation) of LWN was not helping it, given the directions its business was taking. So, after some discussion, LWN was unacquired - it was given back to its creators, with Tucows holding on to a small piece just in case.

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/264980/

[2] https://lwn.net/Articles/265813/

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by corbet on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:00PM (#25863444)
That was a while ago at this point, back when the download site was still a significant part of what they did.

The acquisition was at the end of the dotcom boom, and we had several options to choose from. We ended up with Tucows for a number of reasons, but right near the top was the fact that they seemed like truly decent and honest people. That decision, I think, is a big part of why LWN still exists today.

The end of the download site is definitely a moment in nostalgia...but in truth I didn't know they were still running it. Tucows has long since moved on; I'm glad they are doing well.

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by snoshy on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:07PM (#25864250)
Reading TFA, that was exactly the sense I got: a wistful announcement that a cherished part of the Internet was maintained for years beyond most of its users even noticed, and is being closed down. It seems readily apparent from their actions and words that they truly seemed to care about Tucows Downloads, whatever it might be worth financially.

Glad to get to the comments and see further reinforcement of that feeling. It seems you had a great read on them as people. Kudos.

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by breck on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:18PM (#25865219)
Seeing "TUCOWS" was like smelling something I hadn't smelt in decades. I barely remember what it was, just have positive associations with that word from my child hood. Very cool to read that I'm not alone in that.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by mikejarema on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:22PM (#25862939)
Union Square Ventures invested in them a few years back, and blogged about their rationale and some info on where Tucows is/has been headed as a business:

https://www.usv.com/writing/2017/02/tucows/

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by slg on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:22PM (#25863719)
I have used Hover for years. I don't really do anything too complex with them, but I have no complaints which is basically the best endorsement I can giver for a domain registrar.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by selimthegrim on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:39PM (#25863160)
They did sell their Ting Mobile division to DISH the other month though, so some retrenching has apparently been in order.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by NDizzle on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:53PM (#25863336)
Yep. It was one of your first stops after you reformatted Windows. Like you, I haven't heard about them in a long time. I haven't thought about them in a long time, either. Guess that means Windows got more stable? I don't reformat anymore...
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by cogman10 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:16PM (#25864350)
Adding windows defender by default has gone a LONG ways in fixing windows.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by benbristow on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:12PM (#25865142)
Well Windows 7 (and Vista?) had it by default but it was pretty useless. Basically a user-friendly GUI to the firewall with very basic anti-virus. Microsoft released Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) which was the precursor to what we see now built into 10. It’s come a long way.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by velosol on Thursday January 21, 2021 @08:49PM (#25867237)
Back in the XP days it was a veneer on GIANT AntiSpyware which as I recall was viewed as a separate component to anti-virus back then. As things evolved you saw combined firewall/anti-spyware/virus/adware from companies like Norton/Symantec and as you note MSE was really MS's anti-virus entry in Vista & 7.

Nowadays 'anti-virus' subsumes all those products into one unified thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Defender#Beta

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by ai_ja_nai on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:22PM (#25862935)
I remember downloading GetRight download manager from there. Aeons ago, truly Internet 1.0.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by StavrosK on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:37AM (#25869381)
Oh wow, GetRight... I don't know if it's just nostalgia, but the UI of those apps was much better than today's UI. Back then everything had a standard UI and you could count on menus and elements being Alt-accessible, nowadays everything is a hodgepodge of web apps and nothing works the same way as anything else.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by Belphemur on Friday January 22, 2021 @08:34AM (#25871496)
And to add to it, it seems that none of them hear of keyboard shortcuts.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by StavrosK on Friday January 22, 2021 @08:54AM (#25871640)
That is the worst offender. Keyboard is the best way of quickly navigating, but no, no keyboard shortcuts anywhere any more, and definitely no underlines on buttons so you can alt+key to them...
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by toxik on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:14PM (#25865949)
Almost shellshocked from reading the name GetRight. Jesus that feels long ago.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by lathiat on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:37PM (#25868022)
As an Australia I still long for the multi-stream download of GetRight. I regularly use axel (or aria2c) to just get my connection to 100Mbit.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by girvo on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:43PM (#25866287)
Holy heck that’s a blast from the 56k past.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by ai_ja_nai on Sunday January 31, 2021 @02:35PM (#25981777)
I was on a 28.8, after pitching my parents for weeks about the benefits of keeping the telephone busy for 2 hours per day...
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by max23_ on Thursday January 21, 2021 @08:36PM (#25867126)
Same, download manager used to be a must-have app in the early internet days.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by NicoJuicy on Friday January 22, 2021 @10:43AM (#25872584)
This hurts. You Remember getright aeons ago and I still remember JetCar ( the products name before that)
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by skocznymroczny on Friday January 22, 2021 @03:47AM (#25869709)
Don't forget Teleport to download websites for offline viewing.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by solomonb on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:13PM (#25862790)
Me too! I miss the era of the internet that Tucows represents.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by MisterTea on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:44PM (#25863221)
I miss the walnut creek days of ftp.cdrom.com. Many an id demo and FreeBSD isos downloaded. Before that I knew of them from actually buying their CD's in the mid 90's before we had the internet.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by philsnow on Thursday January 21, 2021 @07:05PM (#25866479)
ftp.cdrom.com was the fastest slackware mirror for me for all of my teen years.

this reminds me of poking around on my ISP's shell server to find warez drops other people had put there.

... now I can smell magic: the gathering cards for some reason.

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by philsnow on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:02PM (#25867337)
whoops, gg guys, dinner's ready

+++ATH

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by core-questions on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:54PM (#25864099)
I remember getting Windows 95 on the Internet, not having a browser, but having the command line FTP client built in and FTPing to cdrom.com to download a copy of Netscape so as to be able to get browsing.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by cairoshikobon on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:19PM (#25864395)
Windows has and still does an excellent built-in FTP API also that was very handy. It works even on Windows 95 all the way to Windows 10.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wininet/n...

Downloading from HTTP has always been messy, specially for big files. The FTP API been always rock solid.

Edit: Apparently the Gopher API is also still available!

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/wininet/n...

and even has websites!

In January 2020, Veronica indexed 395 gopher servers,[16] within which it indexed approximately 4.5 million unique selectors. http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher/0/v2/vstat

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by meepmorp on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:17PM (#25863659)
I still have my copy of Walnut Creek's FreeBSD 2.2.3 distribution, a double CD set with Beastie on the front. And we had the internet back then, it was just over a 28.8 modem.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by xtracto on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:19PM (#25864396)
Haha me too! It was such an amazing thing for me, a 12 year old in 1994 in Mexico to actually receive the FreeBSD CDs with all the nice paraphernalia (beastie stickers and whatnot) on it. A friend of my family bought it for me because he was happy I was into computers at that age.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by alfiedotwtf on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:45PM (#25864764)
Memories!

There was a time where you could replace “www” for “ftp” and in most occasions there would be a file listing!

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by chrisdhal on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:48PM (#25864815)
I was a maintainer of a FAQ that was posted to news.answers, which in turn was mirrored at Walnut Creek. They would send maintainers free CDs of the archive periodically. Good times.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by Svperstar on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:20PM (#25866022)
I downloaded many Doom WADs from ftp.cdrom.com
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by mdtancsa on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:26PM (#25864488)
my fingers still have muscle memory for "ftp ftp.uwasa.fi" which I think pre dated cdrom.com (for me anyways)
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by billpg on Friday January 22, 2021 @03:39AM (#25869681)
Showing my age. src.doc.ic.ac.uk

It was known to some at my university (or maybe just me) pronounced as "Srk Dok Ik Ak Uk".

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by pxlpshr on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:11PM (#25863579)
Same!! So many fond memories of the early web. I miss what was that "new frontier" feeling.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by ryeguy_24 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:26PM (#25865332)
How do we get that feeling again? Where is the newness today? I miss that feeling so much.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by milsorgen on Friday January 22, 2021 @01:21AM (#25868974)
We need to decentralize things a bit to get that old internet smell back.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by breakfastduck on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:11PM (#25865920)
Agreed. Everything feels over-saturated.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by maxwell on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:58PM (#25867788)
NFTs?
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by markandrewj on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:30PM (#25865410)
This brings up memories for me also. I was under the impression that Tucows was founded in Canada though, because their headquarters is in Toronto. Although most people know them for their download site, they have also always been a pretty big domain registrar. According to wikipedia, they are the second biggest at the moment.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by user3939382 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:21PM (#25863699)
I register my domains through hover.com to support Tucows. It happens to be an excellent registrar.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by Svperstar on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:38PM (#25864648)
>Tucows was a huge part of my childhood from 10 to 18 years old.

Same. One of the first places I downloaded software in the mid 1990s

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by Moru on Thursday January 21, 2021 @07:43PM (#25866782)
That's sad, I was just thinking last week that I wish Tucows were still around so search for new interesting tools. I thought it was taken down ages ago.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by tomjen3 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @02:58PM (#25863411)
For me it seems like a decade or two, but that can't be right because I haven't had internet that long.

Maybe it is just that it was a different life and therefore it seems like that long ago?

Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by BuildTheRobots on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:21PM (#25863698)
They've been hosting downloads since 1993. That's more than two decades, and certainly a couple of lifetimes ago for me :)
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by pmiller2 on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:06PM (#25865084)
Speaking of nostalgia, I remember downloading Trumpet Winsock from Tucows way back when....
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by gadders on Friday January 22, 2021 @04:09AM (#25869850)
Agreed. I used to love getting my Windows 3.1 freeware from there.
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by quantified on Thursday January 21, 2021 @06:49PM (#25866342)
+1 (different age range, same idea)
Re:Retiring Tucows Downloads by alfiedotwtf on Thursday January 21, 2021 @04:36PM (#25864615)
So say we all