Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by Exmoor on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:13AM
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Engineer. My roles have been very broad and coding has been only a small portion of it, so engineer fits better, IMO.
Honestly, one of the proudest moments of my career was getting promoted into an 'engineer' title. In my mind, engineers solve problems holding society back and although the problems I was solving were relatively mundane I was proud to carry that title.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by zaptheimpaler on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:40AM
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An utterly useless bikeshed, but one which a broad range of people love talking about, engineered to launch the "Triplebyte community forum" linked in the post. I expect nothing more from these guys.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by SwiftyBug on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @09:09AM
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Programmer. I feel like, at least in my country, that "Engineer" is a term used by people that want to feel they have a shinier title. Most of those people don't even have a degree on any form of engineering. I call myself a programmer because this way I feel like I'm not trying to show off a title and it also transmits the message of what I do: work on computer programs.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by gregjor on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:35AM
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I’ve found that no one cares except some other programmers, developers, engineers, whatever. I describe my work as computer programming when asked, rather than equate myself with a title. The companies that pay me don’t care, the subject only comes up on HN.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by enahs-sf on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:30AM
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For a long time I was self deprecating about this topic.
When people who weren’t in tech asked me what I did, I told them on a good day I was an internet plumber, and on a bad day, an internet janitor. I take myself a bit more seriously now and just opt for software engineer.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by ofrzeta on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:41AM
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People call themselves developers or software engineers because it sounds a bit more pretentious. However there's no shame in calling oneself a programmer just like in the olden days :)
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by FpUser on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:19AM
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My original education is physicist and I worked as a scientist back in USSR. Then I immigrated to Canada and since I was not exactly Einstein science did not pay enough. So I've switched to product development since during my science days I've learned how to program computers, design mechanics and electronics for my experiments and many other interesting skills.
End result - been on my own for the last 20 years and develop products for living. From initial idea to successful production stage. Not always software. Sometimes it is also mechanics and electronics. Some I develop for my own company. Some I made for clients. Never had a single f.. up in regards to delivery and have very good references.
I do not get hung up on languages, technologies etc. To me those are just tools. What I am very good at is figuring out the most practical and fastest way to design build and deliver solid product. Sometimes I design and code most of it, sometimes I hire extra subcontractors. I get satisfaction from the end result and the pay of course. I've done just about anything from firmware and real time device control to enterprise systems for Telcos, etc.
So what do I call myself? No frigging idea but by word of mouth I get nice clients here and there.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by bedobi on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @04:31AM
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I'm not an engineer, so I don't like referring to myself as one. Even most actual engineers who are "software engineers" don't do anything remotely engineering-y.
Programmer or coder etc to me sound too mechanical, as if literally (badabish) writing code is all I do, which isn't true.
So software developer feels more accurate to me.
But at the end of the day I'll take whatever title will pay the most for the most enjoyable work.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by lawn on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:21AM
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It always depends on who's asking.
To my friends I'm a programmer, to someone in an official position (like a bank) I'm a software developer and to people I want to help out I'm a problem solver.
I never call myself an engineer as that's too broad to be useful. Some people who consider education to be the most important call me that, since I technically have a degree in civil engineering (civilingenjör in Swedish).
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by rvdginste on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @05:39AM
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I studied engineering and got a degree in computer science. So I like to call myself a software engineer. At my job I do a lot of things: analysis, design, development, project management.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by thayne on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:53AM
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I can't say I really love any of them. But I think my favorite is "dev" because it is short and pretty unambiguous (afaik). The problem is it isn't a widely used term outside the industry, so when I talk to acquaintances who probably wouldn't know what I mean by "dev", I say "programmer", because most people seem to have some idea of what that is (even if that idea is very different from reality).
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by t0mbstone on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @11:55AM
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I do a lot more than just program according to a spec someone else wrote and fulfill tickets on a treadmill.
In addition to programming, I also communicate with clients and stakeholders, architect solutions to problems, build and manage infrastructure, train other developers, and numerous other responsibilities.
So I call myself a software engineer. I deal with and engineer solutions relating to the domain of software.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by mkl95 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:59AM
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I dropped out of uni to become a professional developer or programmer. Many friends and coworkers who did similar things call themselves engineers, but personally I find it a bit pretentious since CS / computer engineering education is almost purely theoretical in my country (it's more of a maths degree with a couple of programming subjects).
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by rwoerz on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:59AM
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In German, "Entwickler" (developer) seems to be most common. Avoid everything with "code" particularly if your, say, aunt asks what you do for a living because code sounds like "Kot" which translates to "shit". (Example: "Today, I had to delve deep into someone else's code.")
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by iKlsR on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:23AM
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Application Engineer, on any given day I'm doing non-trivial work in web dev, 3d apis or desktop software.
It's one of those things where you could pick either one but you want someone to ask you to explain more and then proceed to brag about being a generalist, being proficient in n languages and how many stacks you use/know...
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by emourujarvi on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @05:17AM
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Software designer by title, developer by heart.
Work includes full stack development, and some devops + continuous deployment responsibilities.
I feel being called a designer yet actually doing developer stuff sounds a bit deceiving. I'm employed by a small company which lets me do pretty much anything I'm interested in, so what the heck.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by pjmlp on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:59AM
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Software Developer as per company internal title, although I am a professional engineer inscribed in the Engineering Order of my home country, where it is illegal to pimp up oneself with engineering on the title just because one feels like doing it.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by emerged on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @04:50AM
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I probably use programmer most often, although my title has been SWE for decades by now. That said, scanning the Wikipedia page for Engineer sounds exactly like my job. I take it from other commenters that is not typical?
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by Fordec on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:58AM
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Engineer if I'm working on backend/hardware as it's my actual education and experience. Programmer if it's frontend / system admin as I'm really just winging it as required.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by catmanjan on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:59AM
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Software laborer (or software day laborer if you're a contractor) - without a governing body calling yourself an engineer seems disingenuous, and developers develop film.
Re:Programmer, developer, engineer? What do you call yoursel...
by jcun4128 on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:52AM
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Interesting I don't have a degree, job title/paid as SWE but don't think I can call myself one(lack of degree) so I identify as SWD used to be "full stack" but idk anymore. Eventually I'll just be "hermit in desert".
Honestly, one of the proudest moments of my career was getting promoted into an 'engineer' title. In my mind, engineers solve problems holding society back and although the problems I was solving were relatively mundane I was proud to carry that title.
Never, EVER say coder. That is the language of muggles.
When people who weren’t in tech asked me what I did, I told them on a good day I was an internet plumber, and on a bad day, an internet janitor. I take myself a bit more seriously now and just opt for software engineer.
End result - been on my own for the last 20 years and develop products for living. From initial idea to successful production stage. Not always software. Sometimes it is also mechanics and electronics. Some I develop for my own company. Some I made for clients. Never had a single f.. up in regards to delivery and have very good references.
I do not get hung up on languages, technologies etc. To me those are just tools. What I am very good at is figuring out the most practical and fastest way to design build and deliver solid product. Sometimes I design and code most of it, sometimes I hire extra subcontractors. I get satisfaction from the end result and the pay of course. I've done just about anything from firmware and real time device control to enterprise systems for Telcos, etc.
So what do I call myself? No frigging idea but by word of mouth I get nice clients here and there.
Programmer or coder etc to me sound too mechanical, as if literally (badabish) writing code is all I do, which isn't true.
So software developer feels more accurate to me.
But at the end of the day I'll take whatever title will pay the most for the most enjoyable work.
To my friends I'm a programmer, to someone in an official position (like a bank) I'm a software developer and to people I want to help out I'm a problem solver.
I never call myself an engineer as that's too broad to be useful. Some people who consider education to be the most important call me that, since I technically have a degree in civil engineering (civilingenjör in Swedish).
I saw somebody else say this somewhere, it felt fitting.
https://www.kbasm.com/blog/reasons-programmer-is-artisan
But for people in the industry, I’ve found “dev” works the best
In addition to programming, I also communicate with clients and stakeholders, architect solutions to problems, build and manage infrastructure, train other developers, and numerous other responsibilities.
So I call myself a software engineer. I deal with and engineer solutions relating to the domain of software.
It's one of those things where you could pick either one but you want someone to ask you to explain more and then proceed to brag about being a generalist, being proficient in n languages and how many stacks you use/know...
Work includes full stack development, and some devops + continuous deployment responsibilities.
I feel being called a designer yet actually doing developer stuff sounds a bit deceiving. I'm employed by a small company which lets me do pretty much anything I'm interested in, so what the heck.
I’m not a Developer, or a Software Engineer. I can’t code in Java or any other typical programming language.
But I can configure things to work, and do infrastructure as code.
So, DevOps Engineer it is.
developer DEVELOPER! DEVELOPER!