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Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by vesinisa on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:12AM (#16819638)
Sadly, the reddit website has become a travesty - especially on mobile. A huge "DOWNLOAD THE REDDIT APP" banner obscures literally 30% of the page. There is a teeny-tiny "view on mobille site" link in small, low-contrast text that can be used to dismiss the annoying banner. Due to its size and user-hostile design, the Reddit banner is even worse than most news sites that try to push their newsletter/app/subscription with similarly annoying banners.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by josefresco on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:29AM (#16819725)
I dropped the mobile app because it was occupying over 200MB of space, and my inadequately equipped iPhone ran out of space. I switched to the mobile site, but now avoid that as well due to the constant, in-your-face app promotion. Every website with a mobile app these days: "I get it, you have an app, I don't want the app, stop telling me to download it."

Edit: Thanks for the helpful replies - however staying completely off Reddit is probably better for my overall wellbeing. Reddit is no longer a "happy place" for me, the racists, trolls, shills, and bigots have ruined it for me. To top it off, I was recently banned by admins (not mods) for "attempting to evade a subbreddit ban" which was a result of my using a VPN - no thanks.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by wor3q on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:31AM (#16819732)
It actually has a switch to turn nagging about app off. It's 'ask to open in app' in menu. No banners or popups about the app since I've flipped it.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by bdefore on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:35AM (#16820200)
Which not useful if you prefer to lurk rather than login or use incognito/firefox focus to browse.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by josefresco on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:40AM (#16820241)
This is why I never saw the setting to disable the app prompt. Reddit tracks every single action on their site (no duh) and I don't feel like being monitored when I'm on the toilet looking for LULZ
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by teach on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:20AM (#16820587)
For the record, I'm sure they track you just as much even if you've never created an account.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by josefresco on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:35AM (#16820739)
I smiled when writing that, expecting this very response ;) - I'll just stay away completely as per my parent comment edit.

The kicker is that Reddit's "activity feed" in the right hand sidebar is what revealed, or reminded me of this behavior. Without it, I probably would have continued to ignore the obvious / bury my head in the sand. Thanks Reddit!

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by FridgeSeal on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:11AM (#16820004)
If you're on iOS, use Apollo instead: https://apolloapp.io/

Hands down the best Reddit app for iOS.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by ubernostrum on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:09PM (#16824489)
Neither this nor the alternatives in the replies to you mention anything about moderator tools.

Even the official reddit mobile app only finally got things like viewing mod queue, and approve/remove/spam, very recently. Which means until recently using the actual site on my phone was the only way I could use reddit.

This may seem like a niche request, but it holds back the ability of moderators to use reddit mobile apps, and in turn prevents that class of "power users" from being able to recommend an app to friends.

(and even the site itself isn't great; on desktop I use multiple browser extensions to add functionality reddit itself should be providing)

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by launchpad24 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @05:41PM (#16825159)
Readder does have mod tools but I'm not sure how in depth or good they are since I've never used them.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by launchpad24 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @11:40AM (#16822060)
I actually vastly prefer Readder over Apollo. Check it out: http://readder.co/
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by sq_ on Thursday April 12, 2018 @11:55AM (#16822201)
100% agree with that. Switched from the official app over to Apollo a few months ago and haven't looked back since.

The gesture-based functionality and the media viewer alone make it way better than the offical app.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by nopressure on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:35AM (#16820190)
Does it show ads?
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by joper90 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:28AM (#16820666)
Nope, well except the standard Reddit posts that are obviously ads...
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by flixic on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:24AM (#16820627)
No ads. It's monetized via in-app upgrade to Apollo Pro.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by liotier on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:24AM (#16819692)
On Android, use the "Reddit if fun" application - classic Reddit, fit for mobile: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andrewshu....
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dkns on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:35AM (#16819774)
Yeah but I don't want to use another app for that. I already have app for browsing Reddit - it's called web browser and I'd like to keep using it rather than downloading yet another app that does basically the same.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by InternetOfStuff on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:09AM (#16819991)
I get your point, but "Reddit is Fun" is really good. It's the opposite of the stupid mobile apps which are inferior to the website proper.

I might even prefer it to the desktop site (not to speak of the mobile site).

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by TeMPOraL on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:40AM (#16820778)
Seconding Reddit is Fun - it has a very decent UX (about the only thing I'd love to see improved is the comment box, especially around quoting stuff). It's lean, bullshit-free, actively developed and offers all the features you'd have on the website (at least all that I know of).
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by oehpr on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:59PM (#16824403)
If I can offer a suggestion. If you have android then I'd recommend you switch your browser to firefox and follow these steps (not sure if iOS has firefox, or if it does, if these steps will work on it):

1. download uBlock origin for it (yep, same add on, works in android firefox)

2. browse to reddit, an interstitial should pop up nagging you to use the app.

3. open up the menu and select uBlock origin at the bottom, select the eye dropper tool.

4. click on the div that is dimming all the content, this should give you an option to filter it out, uBlock will give you a list of parent elements you can add to the filter instead. In this case the one you are looking for is .DualPartInterstitial. You can verify with the preview button.

This will commit this div to your personal filter list.

If you frequent sites with these types of nags, this process will let you manually dismiss them until they redesign. Ideally they would respect your preferences themselves, but they never do.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dredmorbius on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:14PM (#16824534)
I use Stylus to much the same effect, modifying, or occasionally wholesale replacing, site CSS.

That can be used in conjunction with uMatrix to discard the site's own CSS.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by wetpaws on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:55PM (#16825987)
Reddit on web is unfortunately unusable, at least on mobile, due to how badly it was implemented
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by lazycouchpotato on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:12PM (#16823989)
Apps add extra features and/or provide better usability.

I personally love using Sync for Reddit. It provides a nice and fluid experience.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by criley2 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:55AM (#16819896)
A web browser is an inferior tool for the job of accessing reddit API in a mobile context.

Reddit has always been app-first on mobile, web-first on desktop. This has been true since the very first reddit mobile app.

If you're okay using your very inferior solution, then please do not come in here to complain about your willfully chosen inferior experience, because the people here will only seek to help you by educating you on the basic ways to use the reddit service...

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by invalidusernam3 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:01AM (#16819939)
> Reddit has always been app-first on mobile

No it hasn't, they only released the official reddit app in 2016. Reddit bought alien blue in 2014 but even that was only available on iOS

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by BHSPitMonkey on Thursday April 12, 2018 @02:20PM (#16823526)
I think they meant in the sense that users heavily made use of third party mobile apps, even long before the web site had a usable mobile version. Reddit has always had a dev-friendly API enabling these things.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by criley2 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:03AM (#16819951)
>No it hasn't, they only released the official reddit app in 2016. Reddit bought alien blue in 2014 but even that was only available on iOS

?? Are you confusing the reddit API with the official crap reddit app? It's okay to be ignorant about reddit, but your fake correction borne out of ignorance is weird and misplaced.

Alien Blue development began when the first official iOS App Store debuted in 2010, and was released shortly there after

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Blue

The reddit apps for Android came out around the same time frame.

So the reddit apps for iOS/Android came out when the app stores came out. For nearly as long as we've had smartphones, we've had reddit API and third party apps. That's the entire history of reddit mobile: API + third party apps.

Anyone with any knowledge of reddit knows that their strategy for mobile was API+third party apps for the majority of their history, and their recent first party apps are ignored and suck.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by StavrosK on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:33AM (#16819750)
"Relay" is also amazing. I realized just today that I browse HN from mobile Firefox, but reddit from Relay, and I realized that that's because Relay is so much better than any HN mobile app. It really makes a difference.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by severine on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:46AM (#16819833)
Have you tried Materialistic[1] for HN? Apache licensed, also on F-droid[2].

[1] https://github.com/hidroh/materialistic

[2] https://f-droid.org/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialistic/

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by StavrosK on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:54AM (#16819893)
Yes, it's what I currently use, but it has some problems (comment formatting shows up weirdly, the built-in browser uses desktop mode and doesn't let me resize sites so many are illegible, etc). It's the best I've found, though.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by hivacruz on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:28AM (#16820129)
Materialistic is nice. The only feature I miss with it would be a custom filter. If I could hide automatically stories based on keywords (like "Facebook"), that would be great.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by Outpox on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:55AM (#16819895)
I use both Relay for Reddit and Materialistic for HN and they're absolutely brilliant. Didn't take me that long to pay for Relay Pro.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by skykooler on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:06PM (#16824462)
Another excellent mobile client for Android is Slide for Reddit.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by FridgeSeal on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:11AM (#16820009)
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by senectus1 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:54AM (#16820359)
thats my personal fav.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by digi_owl on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:25PM (#16824104)
I go with Redreader.

It may lack some niceties, but i find it gets the job done and is open source (and was originally built to cache sub-reddits).

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by baq on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:33AM (#16819758)
yeah it's almost better than the desktop web version.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by nunez on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:46AM (#16820276)
Huge fan of Relay
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by hyperpallium on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:53AM (#16819885)
protip: append ".compact" to the URL (before the "?" query string, if any). All reddit links will also now automatically have .compact. Bookmark it.

Starter pack: https://www.reddit.com/.compact https://www.reddit.com/r/all.compact https://www.reddit.com/message/inbox/.compact

This gives the old reddit mobile experience, which is far lighter and better. But some things are broken, e.g. "submit" is broken; "parent" take you to the modern mobile version (but "conext" works); "sidebar" needs a separate page.

To any reddit admins reading: please don't take this functionality away.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by wanda on Thursday April 12, 2018 @05:07PM (#16824940)
You can also just change the subdomain to i.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com to achieve the same effect.

e.g.

https://i.reddit.com/r/all

I personally find this quicker to type.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by hyperpallium on Friday April 13, 2018 @12:24AM (#16827122)
TIL

BTW another breakage is no comment "delete" link; need to switch back for that.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by actsasbuffoon on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:24AM (#16819694)
Their mobile app rarely works for me. There was a bug for a few months(!) where I couldn't log in. It worked again for a month, and now the app can't connect to the server at all.

To be clear, I'm running this on a brand new iPhone X, so I've got plenty of power to run the app. The site works in my mobile browser, but the app has serious reliability problems.

If anyone at Reddit is reading this, please stop pushing the mobile app so hard. You're actively making things worse by pushing a highly unreliable app!

Also, please make it possible to sort by "Rising" on the mobile site and app (should I ever be able to connect again). On busy news days, things move fast enough that "Rising" is the only way to keep up, yet the option is mysteriously inaccessible on mobile.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by drivingmenuts on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:45AM (#16819822)
Why the hell should I have to use an app to browse Reddit?

It's entirely possible to build a website that works well in the browser on my phone AND on my desktop.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by nugi on Friday April 13, 2018 @01:10PM (#16831879)
This should be the top comment. The dark UX forcing an app down your throat for a website is appalling. Also is the chorus of illiterate responsers to every post like this pushing yet another 3rd party app. The website is broken if you need an app.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by chii on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:26AM (#16819703)
use the .compact version of reddit's website: append a '/.compact' to the end of a normal reddit url like www.reddit.com/r/programming/.compact , and see how fast and user friendly it is!
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by nostromo on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:37AM (#16819779)
https://i.reddit.com works as well
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by grogers on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:34AM (#16819761)
Luckily taking 15 seconds to type this in the address bar and load the old version is still faster than loading any "normal" mobile Reddit page. This is what I've been doing for years.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by knz on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:33AM (#16819752)
I agree that .compact is their most mobile friendly website but I'm not sure I'd call it "user friendly".

It's difficult to edit comments, difficult to switch between subreddit's, and defaults to their main mobile format or prompts you to download their app if you click on any internal links that don't have .compact in the URL (include the default /r/$subreddit formatting).

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by yoodenvranx on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:28AM (#16819713)
The day they kill the .compact page is the day I stop using reddit.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by narrowtux on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:34AM (#16819759)
Try the Apollo app if you want to use one
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by developer2 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:42AM (#16819807)
Seconded. I'm a hardcore fan of Apollo, it's an incredible app.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by josteink on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:32AM (#16820164)
> the reddit website has become a travesty - especially on mobile. A huge "DOWNLOAD THE REDDIT APP" banner obscures literally 30% of the page.

Somewhere under preferences you can disable this bullshit forever.

The website is still a travesty though.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dredmorbius on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:16PM (#16824552)
Not:

1. That I've found.

2. For unauthenticated sessions.

I hit Reddit via Incognito mode frequently. That goddamned nag shows up every goddamned time.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by Vinnl on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:47AM (#16819838)
You can disable that banner in the hamburger menu when logged in.

Yes, you'd expect it to be gone after the first time you dismiss it, but you will probably still want to know that you can remove it :)

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by ChrisSD on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:33AM (#16819748)
It's not just the splash that's frustrating on mobile. I dislike staring at a logo for ages just so I can eventually read one comment page.

I'm sure this is fun for people who use reddit regularly but as only an occasional visitor I would rather do without it.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by zmb_ on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:18AM (#16819663)
They have also periodically been A/B testing a popup with only two options, login or get mobile app, when clicking on a topic -- as far as I could tell it was not possible to just pass to the comment thread. Luckily that seems to have been phased out.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by Fifer82 on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:56AM (#16819911)
I completely agree and even when you just accept all this and actually get the App, it is pretty terrible (on IOS).

As in, it stops loading posts, and stops infinite scrolling, so you have to basically kill the app, then go back into it.

I don't see how that is more useful than the website or a better experience.

Also another issue is that many links just don't work. I can't see `streamable` and many others because the page that opens has no touch detection. I have to select `...` then go to `Open in Safari` to make it work.

Reddit and YouTube are the only things stopping my IPad from gathering dust.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by nimbix on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:48AM (#16820843)
It's because they want your device's advertiser ID so they can associate it with your interests based on subreddits you visit. There's gold in them ad targeting data hills.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dredmorbius on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:23AM (#16819688)
Hit https://old.reddit.com

Unfortunately intra-reddit links cause all the usual problems.

But yes, mobile behaviour is rage-inducing.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by syrrim on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:09PM (#16824490)
You can ask to always recieve the desktop website via the hamburger menu. Really the best option IMO.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dredmorbius on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:01PM (#16825732)
You've got to:

1. Click though the Mobile nag overly.

2. Turn off the Mobile nag, or you'll see it again.

3. Specify "desktop" via, for the second time, the motherfucking hamburger.

That is: this is what I'm doing. Every. Goddamned. Time. It's motherfucking rage inducing. I've mentioned this more than once at Reddit.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by api on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:55AM (#16819898)
I never download "the app" because I know the privacy and security settings of my browser will not apply there and everything on my phone will get hoovered.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by andrepd on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:29AM (#16820137)
Try i.reddit.com. I still use it, and I'm still annoyed to no end when the "modern" mobile website loads instead, with its ~5 second splash screen that loads less information than the former does in goddamn instant.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dingaling on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:17AM (#16820061)
There's not even any content to be obscured if JS is disabled, as I tend to do on phones to minimise data usage.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by netzone on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:20AM (#16819674)
I think that's now removed no? Or at least, I haven't noticed it for a while. I got hit with the Google hammer regarding a similar banner, where they threatened to stop indexing the site completely, so I assume they had a similar message. Or maybe they're large enough to be exempt. I don't know.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by dmitriid on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:28AM (#16819718)
It's a small banner on Reddit's AMP pages. Once you click "view more comments", you're taken over to the mobile version which has the huge banner.

Shamless plug: you can see this behaviour in the two screenshots in lower left corner in this post https://grumpy.website/post/0PhBPyfR- Reddit redesigned the AMP page to include some comments, but the behaviour is essentially the same.

Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by azernik on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:22AM (#16819681)
For logged-in users, the banner goes away (I think after the first time you click to stay on the mobile site).
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by stochastic_monk on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:24AM (#16819693)
I'm always logged in, but it often asks me to consider using the app. I detest it. Why are they pushing it so hard?
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by opencl on Thursday April 12, 2018 @07:45AM (#16819821)
You have to be logged in and toggle a preference to disable the popup. But then it forgets I'm logged in and I see it again. I agree that it's extremely obnoxious and has just resulted in me never bothering to look at Reddit on a phone anymore.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by JoshMnem on Thursday April 12, 2018 @03:27PM (#16824122)
Also too much animation. Material Design has accessibility problems for motion sensitivity.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by hiccuphippo on Thursday April 12, 2018 @09:36AM (#16820743)
I use one of the third party apps. I tried the official app but it forces you to open external links in their embedded chrome/webview. The third party simply opens them in my browser.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by akvadrako on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:41AM (#16820246)
It's a lot worse than that; m.reddit.com hasn't displayed anything except a white blank page on Safari on iOS for over a year.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by steveklabnik on Thursday April 12, 2018 @04:17PM (#16824560)
Even worse, the app loses features of the site that are super super important, like the "duplicates" tab.
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by akkat on Thursday April 12, 2018 @08:29AM (#16820138)
And after clicking that small hard to see button, get ready for another popup if you want to watch a gif
Re:Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits by ProAm on Thursday April 12, 2018 @02:18PM (#16823504)
i.reddit.com is what I was using. Super compact and pretty easy to use. But its not meant for participating only for browsing.