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Re:VLC 3.0 release by mtmail on Friday February 09, 2018 @10:41AM (#16340952)
From a 2016 interview https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/16/08/26/1338246/the-s... (also https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/7hqusx/this_is_jean...)

"Well, it's important to remind people that we don't make money out of VLC and that there is no business model around it, we're not Mozilla or Facebook. VideoLAN only receives donations and that's not enough to hire someone. VLC developers are either volunteers (the majority since VLC started) or have their consulting business around open source multimedia."

Re:VLC 3.0 release by faitswulff on Friday February 09, 2018 @10:47AM (#16341001)
Re:VLC 3.0 release by e40 on Friday February 09, 2018 @10:51AM (#16341066)
Just gave $50. I've been using VLC for years.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by vanderZwan on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:59PM (#16342352)
> I've been using VLC for years.

Good point: there is plenty of software where people have no issues with buying a new licence every couple of years,

Compare that to (in my case) sixteen years of happy VLC usage across many different computers and phones, and it's obvious that I have some donations to catch up on!

Re:VLC 3.0 release by ztoben on Friday February 09, 2018 @10:56AM (#16341113)
Same here. Honestly didn't realize they had no model for income.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by bpicolo on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:03AM (#16341205)
Someone wanted to give them millions to put ads on it, but the primary maintainer said no way.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15372048

Re:VLC 3.0 release by jbk on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:10AM (#16341295)
That would be me :)
Re:VLC 3.0 release by madez on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:32PM (#16342111)
Thanks so much for it!

I naively thought free projects were as resistant as VLC when it comes to manipulation for the sake of money, but big and even often cheered ones gave in.

A bad business model can be worse than having none.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by bpicolo on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:17AM (#16341385)
Out of curiosity, have you considered monetization strategies like an open pay-per-video store? VLC is awesome, and I kind of wish it got the monetary compensation it deserves hah. I've heard that indie movie distribution is a dreadful space.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by jbk on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:43AM (#16341641)
Such things does not exist because of copyright holders forces DRM
Re:VLC 3.0 release by mgkimsal on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:59AM (#16341809)
Certainly no expert in the field here, but maybe a store/market built around vimeo's "on demand" stuff? A partnership with vimeo whereby VLC would get a % of sales when purchased via VLC might help both parties (more exposure to vimeo via VLC, revenue for VLC, etc).
Re:VLC 3.0 release by pathseeker on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:28PM (#16342068)
Is vimeo on-demand DRM free?
Re:VLC 3.0 release by mgkimsal on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:03PM (#16342398)
https://help.vimeo.com/hc/en-us/articles/224821167-Does-Vime...

It seems that it's up to the content owners as to how much they would want to enable.

https://help.vimeo.com/hc/en-us/articles/235694348-How-to-bu...

"When you buy a VOD, you will be able to stream its videos for as long as they remain on Vimeo. If the seller allows, you will also be able to download the videos to your computer and devices, DRM-free."

Re:VLC 3.0 release by jadbox on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:04PM (#16342405)
Is it not.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by etix on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:38AM (#16341597)
We are exploring some ways but we have nothing to announce yet.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by mbesto on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:35PM (#16342693)
Thanks - just sent you guys $50.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by moviuro on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:00AM (#16341163)
There are lots of excellent projects that have income issues: GnuPG, OpenBSD to cite the most prominent ones.

https://www.gnupg.org/donate/index.html (though they are at ~€5k/month now?)

http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/campaign2018.html http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/donations.html

Re:VLC 3.0 release by johnnycarcin on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:31AM (#16341532)
What is annoying is many groups like this make it hard for us that have employers that will match donations for non-profits to donate.

I tried to get OpenBSD added to our companies system awhile back but the group that manages that process said they did not get a response from the OpenBSD group when they reached out to them to get a bit of information.

I can (and do) donate outside of my companies process, but they are missing out on additional money.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by aswanson on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:14PM (#16342492)
Yeah I gave a few years ago but considering how many hours of playback I've had since then, time to donate again.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by Paul-ish on Friday February 09, 2018 @10:57AM (#16341128)
Could they set up a Patreon, or is that only for individuals?
Re:VLC 3.0 release by moviuro on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:02AM (#16341196)
* Recurring SEPA transfer? (Europe-only AFAICT) * Use their Paypal link, see if you can enable recurring payment there? (I'm not familiar with this though)
Re:VLC 3.0 release by metalliqaz on Friday February 09, 2018 @11:02AM (#16341197)
Leads of other open source projects have patreon accounts
Re:VLC 3.0 release by pvdebbe on Saturday February 10, 2018 @06:48AM (#16346922)
liberapay please
Re:VLC 3.0 release by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:31PM (#16342650)
Thanks for the link. It had honestly not occurred to me to donate before. VLC has been around for so long, and has always worked well, been unobtrusive, and made so few unnecessary changes, that I have taken it for granted. I wish I could say the same for other open source software, then I might donate to them too.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by bringtheaction on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:40PM (#16342742)
Oh hey they take donation in crypto currency! Nice! I wish more open source projects did.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by astura on Friday February 09, 2018 @03:15PM (#16343484)
Thanks for linking, VLC has been one of my favorite pieces of software for, idk, at least 15 years, so donating is a no brainer.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by tomaskafka on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:16PM (#16343040)
Thanks for posting the link. Donating was so easy I actually did it (glad to help with $20) :))).
Re:VLC 3.0 release by jamesiscool on Saturday February 10, 2018 @07:08AM (#16346979)
Tried to donate but PayPal was useless as usual
Re:VLC 3.0 release by francoi8 on Friday February 09, 2018 @01:54PM (#16342886)
I gave 10€.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by hart_russell on Friday February 09, 2018 @12:22PM (#16342020)
They need an Ethereum address
Re:VLC 3.0 release by jnordwick on Friday February 09, 2018 @03:09PM (#16343446)
So that the $20 donation one minute can turn into $50 the next minute... Oops i mean $15, no $35, whoops $12, wait $27.

Edit: $14

Edit: $117

Edit: got hacked

Re:VLC 3.0 release by glenneroo on Friday February 16, 2018 @10:23AM (#16392923)
Still better than $0.
Re:VLC 3.0 release by glenneroo on Friday February 16, 2018 @10:22AM (#16392921)
Maybe they do, but they currently accept BTC and Monero. Just convert your ETH to one of those :)
Re:VLC 3.0 release by brwsr on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:31PM (#16343158)
Why donations via Paypal? Paypal sucks and steals! They make up their own (totally unreasonable) rates for exchanging Euro's to USD..

Better show an Ethereum address or so, it's just a few minutes work and might render a much larger donation due to the expected increase in price over time.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by simcop2387 on Friday February 09, 2018 @03:01PM (#16343379)
Paypal is "easy" to setup and maintain for many donation type cases like this, and provides an incredibly low barrier for entry to accept donations, this low barrier of entry can easily make up (to the developers) for the skimming done by paypal with fees and bad currency conversions. Also keep in mind that people in europe are likely not converting to USD when donating, the VLC non-profit is europe based so there's likely not a conversion there happening. It's going to happen USD to Euro though. And if that's still a concern, you can also do a direct bank transfer in europe pretty easily as they provide that information, making it without fees for a lot of EU citizens.

And while they don't have an Ethereum address, they do have bitcoin and monero, two of the biggest players in this space. It would be nice to see more options just so that one could use whatever cryptocurrency is going to have lower transaction fees at the time.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by mgkimsal on Friday February 09, 2018 @02:36PM (#16343196)
maybe because a lot of the potential people you might want to donate actually use paypal?

there's already monero and bitcoin donation addresses there, but paypal is something most people already know about and can deal with (from multiple currencies around the globe).

Re:VLC 3.0 release by r3bl on Friday February 09, 2018 @05:02PM (#16344229)
I've downloaded a couple of hundreds of euros last year to various open source and Internet advocacy projects, and I've always used PayPal to do so.

I love the projects I've donated to, but not enough to trust them all not to fuck up storing my banking info. This way, I have all my donations easily available via one interface that I don't use for much else.

Re:VLC 3.0 release by jbk on Friday February 09, 2018 @10:57AM (#16341124)
Thanks, it's quite rare that people notice this :D