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Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by paol on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:00PM (#12694014)
If that's the case, that leaves the problem (from the consumer's point of view) of where to get access to a complete(ish) catalog of films. Netflix actually achieved this back in the disc-by-mail days. So we're actually moving backwards.

I'm not particularly ashamed to say I turn to unlicensed torrents for this purpose, but I would prefer if it weren't necessary.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by pmoriarty on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:10PM (#12694105)
"Netflix actually achieved this back in the disc-by-mail days."

Netflix's DVD service still exists.[1] They have a fantastic selection, compared to their streaming service.

[1] - https://dvd.netflix.com/

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by caleblloyd on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:52PM (#12695533)
Their DVD service may still exist, but my DVD player does not.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by dragonwriter on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:12PM (#12695681)
DVD players are cheap, so that's an easily solved problem.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by gregmac on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:42PM (#12695881)
My willingness to deal with physical media, let alone the postal service (any more then I am forced to, anyway) disappeared a few years ago.

How is Netflix able to get rights to send physical media, but not stream? It seems to me that literally the only real difference is physical media means there is a limit on number of concurrent viewers.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by dragonwriter on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:48PM (#12695925)
Physical media is subject to the Doctrine of First Sale, which means Netflix doesn't have to get a special license for DVD rentals.

From a copyright perspective, that's a fundamental difference from streaming.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by turc1656 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:41PM (#12696274)
I understand the desire for instant gratification, not to mention the desire to be free of the money pit called the USPS.

That being said, physical media has far superior audio and video quality. A Bluray disc vs streaming 1080p (especially a Netflix stream) is a world of difference. Streaming media is usually bit-starved to near death. If you care about quality (and you very well may not), it's the only way to fly.

If you don't mind the subpar video and audio quality, then I can understand why people use the streaming service. It's just not for me, though. I have a 49" 4k TV and a Bluray player that upscales for a reason. I don't want that swill they serve up over ethernet, lol.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by rjbwork on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @07:21PM (#12697167)
By this logic, torrents are then the best of both worlds. :/

An unfortunate situation.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by scurvy on Thursday October 13, 2016 @02:12AM (#12698857)
Netflix has 4K native content at a pretty decent bitrate.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by oldmanjay on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:05PM (#12696034)
That's not really a flaw of netflix, is it? If you believe it is, I'd love to understand your reasoning.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by wtetzner on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:39PM (#12696271)
I'm not the OP, but I'll give it a shot :)

The value Netflix provides is primarily convenience. There are other ways to watch movies and TV shows, the reason to use Netflix is that it's more convenient than the alternatives.

Having to deal with physical media (and wait for them to be delivered) is less convenient than other alternatives to Netflix. Therefore, it's a flaw of Netflix.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by pmoriarty on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @05:21PM (#12696510)
Streaming is definitely more convenient, but since Netflix's streaming selection is atrocious, it's not worth my time or money.

I'd much rather put up with the minimal hassle and a bit of a wait to get a great selection of DVDs.

The "hassle" amounts to me opening up an envelope, putting the DVD in to my DVD player, putting it back in to the envelope when I'm done and throwing it in to a mailbox on my way to work.

Sure, it's not as easy as hitting play in a streaming app, but not really a big deal, either.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by phamilton on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @06:05PM (#12696782)
The hassle involves the latency of wanting to watch something and it being in the envelope in your home.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by pmoriarty on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @06:23PM (#12696880)
I'd rather wait a bit for something good than stream garbage.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by wtetzner on Thursday October 13, 2016 @11:10AM (#12701227)
> Streaming is definitely more convenient, but since Netflix's streaming selection is atrocious, it's not worth my time or money.

Which was exactly my point. It's a flaw of Netflix that it's streaming collection isn't as good as it's DVD collection.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by maverick_iceman on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @11:24PM (#12698223)
I'm pretty sure hackney cab drivers argued similarly about automobiles.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by caleblloyd on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @06:31PM (#12696921)
I used to love going to blockbuster to rent a flick, because I could do it on a whim (near-instant gratification). Because of streaming services like Netflix, blockbuster went out of business.

I don't plan for movie night days in advance. I'm not going to rent that shit in the mail. So after a few years of not touching my DVD player, I threw it out.

The content owners are the real ones losing out here. I'd pay $4 to stream any movie, there's just no service I'm aware of that offers them all digitally at that price.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by erikjsanders on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @02:02AM (#12732448)
You can rent and stream many movies from Amazon for 3.99 SD and 4.99 HD. I'm not sure if these prices are discounted since I am a prime member.

I just recently started using VidAngel though, and I'm happy with it so far. They advertise being able to filter movies, but you can always just filter a single word if you don't want anything filtered. It's $1 for SD and $2 for HD. They have an interesting licensing model though so you sort of have to have a constant $18-$19 deposit with them.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by gozur88 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @07:40PM (#12697283)
Isn't that about what the cable PPV channels charge? Or am I out of date?
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by auno on Thursday October 13, 2016 @09:54AM (#12700752)
Then you'd have to get cable first, with whatever that entails. I don't have any kind of TV connection to my apartment at all.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by AjithAntony on Thursday October 13, 2016 @01:09AM (#12698595)
You can play DVD's in your bluray player ;)
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by kbart on Thursday October 13, 2016 @03:29AM (#12699101)
Are these still a thing? I've never seen one in use..
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by omouse on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:14PM (#12696092)
Do they do blu-ray?
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by rackbreaker on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:34PM (#12696231)
yes
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by fluidcruft on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:40PM (#12695868)
We stopped DVD service because we moved. After the move 4/5 disks came unplayably scratched. And it somehow took two weeks for the next disk to come in the mail. So you can imagine we found we were getting zero value for our subscription fee.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by pmoriarty on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @05:12PM (#12696449)
Maybe I've just been lucky, but my Netflix history shows I've watched close to 100 DVDs, and only one of them was unplayable for me. For that one, they shipped me a replacement right away and it worked fine.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by fluidcruft on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @08:21PM (#12697446)
Yes. That was our experience before we moved. Customer service kept blowing us off, too. So very likely where we are now is not a priority market or something. Which is sad because serving rural america was supposedly part of the whole long-tail thing.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by blakeyrat on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:49PM (#12695931)
I'm nostalgic for Blockbuster's disk-by-mail service, which had a much better selection than Netflix's ever did. (Ironically; considering how poor the selection in actual Blockbuster retail stores was.)

Whenever I wanted some mega-obscure Japanese or Thai movie, Netflix never had it and Blockbuster always did.

Oh well.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by pmoriarty on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @05:30PM (#12696557)
There was a company called GreenCine which had the same business model as Netflix, but focusing more on independent and rare films.

I meant to give it a try once I ran out of interesting movies to watch on Netflix. But I guess I waited too long, because now they're out of business.

Despite Netflix not having absolutely everything, I think Netflix still has a really good DVD selection, with plenty of relatively obscure films (along with tons of mainstream ones).

It could definitely be better (on selection, and also wish they offered more letterboxed and full-length films instead of shortened ones), and I wish there was more competition in this field. But overall I'm pretty satisfied and would recommend their DVD service to others.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by kleiba on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:34PM (#12695826)
Unfortunately it exists only in the U.S. :-( (while their streaming service is available in many countries.)
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by hobofan on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:13PM (#12694143)
(In the USA)
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by tracker1 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:47PM (#12695492)
That was my thought as well.. no, it isn't instant gratification, but it does have value... I wonder how legal a dedicated feed rental system would be. Effectively, you rent a movie (as available) and someone puts it into a drive in a data center, that is then played for you directly, with the software interface controlling playback... you then click "return" when done watching... maybe a bonus for early returns (vs checked out for 24hrs).

It might take some custom hardware, but just a few larger central stores vs something like redbox for example.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by swift on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:10PM (#12695658)
Believe it or not, this was tried years ago:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/03/is-zedivas-new-re...

It turned out that the courts were not impressed by this workaround.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by zo1 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:08PM (#12695645)
There was a company that did this. They don't exist anymore:

https://www.wired.com/2011/10/streaming-movie-service-zediva...

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by oconnor0 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:13PM (#12695682)
https://www.vidangel.com/ does something similar. You buy the movie for 20$ and then can stream it whenever, but if you return it within the first 24 hours, you get 19$ back.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Nelson69 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:38PM (#12695427)
Is there anything that competes with that in terms of catalog? Redbox has replaced all the local rental places around here (Colorado) If something isn't streamed then dvd.netflix.com is the only option I know of.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by bonif on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:53PM (#12695543)
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by thebigspacefuck on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:57PM (#12695566)
With Amazon Prime, iTunes, and Redbox, you can get access to pretty much anything. Yes, it costs $1-4 per movie, but that was actually the price of a rental anyway and I had to get in my car, drive to the store, and hope that they had what I was looking for. Netflix still has DVD service if you choose. For me, the risks of being caught stealing outweigh the benefits of saving a few bucks.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by karpodiem on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:25PM (#12694248)
'I'm not particularly ashamed to say I turn to unlicensed torrents for this purpose, but I would prefer if it weren't necessary.'

No studios will collectively give a tech company the majority of the licenses to make this possible - so torrents it is.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by cybernytrix on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:06PM (#12694636)
Renting a movie is less than what you will spend in Starbucks (most of them).
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by gnicholas on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:33PM (#12694901)
Some rentals are cheaper than Starbucks, but many new releases are $5-$6. Also, I frequently find that a movie I'm looking to rent on iTunes is only available for purchase ($15). I understand why studios push for these sort of arrangements, but since there aren't any brick and mortar rental locations anymore, it means there isn't a way to check out that movie for less than $15.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by oldmanjay on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:10PM (#12696066)
It's hard to argue with the convenience of free and immediate, that's for sure, but it's really hard to care that a person craves entertainment so strongly that they feel their unwillingness to pay for it is somehow a compelling argument to take it.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Finnucane on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:46PM (#12695912)
How could it be less than zero?
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by pkulak on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:02PM (#12694595)
Umm... there are about 100 services that will rent/sell you a movie online. I use Amazon for all my movie rental needs. Works great.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by bogomipz on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:23PM (#12695315)
Could you recommend some that have deep catalog? I find the that iTunes and Amazon don't have anywhere near the deep catalog that I once enjoyed at my local video store.

For a real film buff being able to go rent F. W. Murnau's "Noseferatu", Michelangelo Antonioni's "Blowup" or Polanski's "Knife in the Water" was really important to me and something I took for granted. Almost every large city had a least one such film nerd rental place. And now that video stores are gone there's just a void for so much of this content.

One beacon of hope though which is supposed to launch soon is a streaming venture by TCM and The Criterion Collection:

http://www.filmstruck.com/

I am really forward to this that and I hope its huge success.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by enjo on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:41PM (#12696273)
Google too:

Noseferatu: https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Nosferatu_The_V...

Blowup: https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Blowup?id=5esCY...

Knife in the water: https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Knife_in_the_Wa...

I prefer Google to the Amazon option. Much better device support (it works on pretty much every device out there) and the overall UI is just fantastic.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by manachar on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:10PM (#12695663)
Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Nosferatu-Silent-Max-Schreck/dp/B001O...

https://www.amazon.com/Blowup-Vanessa-Redgrave/dp/B000I157KO

https://www.amazon.com/Knife-Water-Leon-Niemczyk/dp/B004D22R...

Amazon + Netflix + Blueray player has become my perfect combination. The few titles that I can't get streaming I just buy the discs.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by bogomipz on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:49PM (#12695932)
Ha, wow. OK I guess I need to give Amazon another look then. I think I maybe looked for these or similar ~ 1 year ago and went away disappointed. This is great. Thanks.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Klathmon on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @06:48PM (#12696997)
Just be warned that Amazon actively goes out of their way to block you from streaming movies to devices they don't like. So don't expect to play them on a Chromecast or something.

Make sure you try it first with a free or test movie before buying.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by guelo on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:48PM (#12695497)
I just looked up those three movies at dvd.netflix.com and they are all available.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by thebigspacefuck on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:27PM (#12695779)
Hulu has a large selection of Criterion. Check it out.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by ethanbond on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @06:45PM (#12696979)
If you don't mind going out, your local public library might be a surprisingly rich resource depending on where you live.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by manuelflara on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:04PM (#12694049)
Well, there's iTunes (a PPV service, of course). I'd like to know how big of a catalog iTunes have in terms of % of the 1,000 most popular movies they have.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by coldcode on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:19PM (#12694775)
Not all movies on iTunes are rentable. Been waiting for the third Hobbit movie forever.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by whatusername on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:49PM (#12695933)
I'm pretty sure that's streaming on Netflix. (Australian catalogue)
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by evo_9 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:12PM (#12695678)
A while back I decided it wasn't worth trusting any online service - netflix or otherwise - for my personal favorite content (whatever that may be). For that reason I invested in a nice NAS that can stream to my ps3/ps4, phones/tablets etc and to just rip my own content. Otherwise you may suddenly find Twin Peaks is not available to you (it's on Amazon Prime now btw), or some other such lost classic film or tv show.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by seattlefreeze on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:57PM (#12694533)
The other option is not watching the films -- this would prevent consuming a good without paying for it.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by sqeaky on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:17PM (#12695715)
Watching a movie does not "consume" it.

In the economic sense consumption means a resource is used and cannot readily be re-used at its original quality. Copying a file does not deprive anybody of anything, I cannot even see a reasonable argument when the case involves a market where the good is not even offered for sale.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by khedoros1 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:46PM (#12696292)
I'm pretty sure that they meant "consume" as in "watch", not "consume" as in "make unavailable for further use". So, watching a movie doesn't consume it, but one does consume movies.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by gozur88 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @07:45PM (#12697301)
I suspect if the studios had to choose between people not watching a film at all and people using torrents, they'd probably want the torrents, particularly if they could document it for the companies paying for product placement.

Though obviously they'd much rather have you pay for it and watch it.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by bcrescimanno on Saturday October 15, 2016 @11:57PM (#12716807)
Sadly--this isn't really something Netflix (or anyone) can possibly offer given the way that the entertainment industry licenses content.

When they made the transition to streaming, they had to acknowledge that they could no longer provide the one-stop shop with everything to watch. Instead, they had to pivot to a model largely based on "something for everyone to watch." My personal opinion is that they missed a good opportunity to socialize that pivot.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by anonymousDan on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:04PM (#12694615)
In the Uk at least you should check out cinema paradise, great range of films (especially independent and world cinema). Furthermore if there's something you want and they don't have just ask them and they'll get it in. Reasonable price too.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by chx on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:28PM (#12694278)
Do you seriously think there'll be a legit service which can replicate the arthouse, cult and alternative films selection of a certain tracker with four A in the name? I think we would sooner see a blanket fee making it legit.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by ARCarr on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:38PM (#12694356)
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by dhimes on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:58PM (#12694541)
Intrigued, but confused. I only see three films in their library.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by azinman2 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:04PM (#12694623)
It says it has the entire criterion collection and it's launching this fall.

But where are all the Woody Allen movies?!!

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by lyssa17 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:57PM (#12694535)
Wait, which is that?
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by chx on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:02PM (#12694589)
I obviously won't name a private tracker. I can't. I was more talking to people who already know of it.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by lyssa17 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:25PM (#12694836)
Ah I see. Didn't realize you were referring to a private one.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by brown9-2 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:04PM (#12694619)
I'm not particularly ashamed to say I turn to unlicensed torrents for this purpose, but I would prefer if it weren't necessary.

It's not necessary if you accept the cost that the makers of these films want to charge you.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Nadya on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:12PM (#12694691)
This assumes the product can still be purchased or is for sale in the country.

Not every country has a licence to sell certain movies. Literally can't pay the money the makers of the films what they want to charge me because they don't want to charge me. This also applies to music and other products (though other products can't necessarily be pirated).

My options are:

    a) Pirate the movie at no cost to the creator
    b) Do not watch the movie at no cost to the creator
Morally - I don't see the difference. Financially - there is no difference. Culturally? There is a huge difference. Many people fail to realize how much culture is shared/discussed around movies/music (esp. American movies/music).
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by jameslk on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:58PM (#12695116)
I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. This is actually a pretty good argument for why piracy is still relevant. There's been numerous occasions when I wanted to share something with a friend, but the content was blocked just because of geographical differences. These limitations create incentives to find the content elsewhere, which is usually illegitimate means.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by novaleaf on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:49PM (#12695512)
I didn't downvote, but... well, honestly this is a bit of a strawman, if you consider that most of the internet using public is able to legally view the content in question.

That a small percentage of people can't... OK that's true. but bringing that up as a reason why piracy can be justified doesn't really seem conductive to a cross-discussion.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Larrikin on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:44PM (#12695904)
What is a small percentage to you? Its extremely frustrating that there is basically no way to access large swaths of Japanese media because the companies don't think there is much market outside the country. They even go so far as to block their biggest stars on youtube. I thought it was extremely ironic that AKB's Fortune Cookie video was not watchable in the US on youtube, when the entire premise of the video was that people all around the world were posting videos on youtube doing the dance featured in the video because they had such a global reach.

Good luck finding anything but the most popular animes legally in the US. I don't think I've ever even seen a Japanese drama through a legal means.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by novaleaf on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @07:22PM (#12697172)
for what it's worth, i use torrents regularly, I just don't see this reason to be conductive to the argument.

If a title is not available in a region, the copyright holder implicitly doesn't care at all. They care about piracy of their goods in regions where it's legally available for purchase. So sticking to arguments that revolve around that seem to make more sense, otherwise you are "preaching to the choir" as it were.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Someone on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:53PM (#12695956)

  c) Watch another movie, paying its creator
     (possibly the same as in option a)
If the minority's of people do that, the shared culture is going to stay, but it will ignore the movie of options a) and b), and include that of option c).
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Nadya on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @09:01PM (#12697611)
The culture surrounds the media. Changing the media changes the culture and even within sub-cultures those sub-cultures themselves have niches. Sometimes cultures even rise out of a singular media.

You can't just replace "Vocaloid Music" (Miku, Rin, Luka) with "other synthetic vocals". It's "similar" but it is not "the same".

The cultures around Gumi and other Megpoids differs from that around Miku and other Vocaloids.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Someone on Thursday October 13, 2016 @02:57AM (#12699005)
Yes, _we_ can. If some group, by the way they choose to distribute their product, indicates it doesn't want to be part of culture, culture can easily adapt to include other music.

When a billionaire buys a Van Gogh or it is sold to some museum far, far away, we look at other van Goghs. If all van Goghs were to get out of reach, some other painter would be brought to the spotlight and become _the_ painter.

(And edit on my grandfather post: s/minority/majority)

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Nadya on Thursday October 13, 2016 @10:44AM (#12701065)
>by the way they choose to distribute their product, indicates it doesn't want to be part of culture,

That isn't how that works. Cultures get built around things - those things don't "choose" their culture. Even creators do not get to "choose" the culture their work belongs to. For example, Pepe the frog. Contrast the popular 4chan/pol/ usage of Pepe the frog with the viewpoints of the creator of Pepe the frog. Even the artist recently drawing Pepe taking a piss on Donald Trump won't stop or change the culture that has built up around the meme. Sometimes trying to not be part of a culture backfires. Ben Garrison learned that the hard way. The more he asked 4chan to stop - the harder 4chan pushed. Eventually it seems like he has given up fighting against it.

>When a billionaire buys a Van Gogh or it is sold to some museum far, far away, we look at other van Goghs. If all van Goghs were to get out of reach, some other painter would be brought to the spotlight and become _the_ painter.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Not too big into art culture and don't really care if I have a cheap $30 copy or the $30mm original of the painting. If I wanted a van Gogh I'd get a van Gogh. Even if it weren't an original.

Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Nadya on Thursday October 13, 2016 @01:28PM (#12702481)
I can't edit any longer - but I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this issue. I do not think you can change the focal point of a culture without changing the culture itself - as the focal point is what defines the culture.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by ChuckMcM on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:34PM (#12694911)
I think it is the case and it is where Amazon video is winning seats. Basically if you want to watch any of the IMDB top 250 films you can do so using the Amazon Video app on Roku or many smart TVs by renting it for $4 - $6. (depending on SD or HD).
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by Paul-ish on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:29PM (#12694862)
What if, overall, film watching just goes down?
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by knicholes on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:42PM (#12694382)
VidAngel has had what I've looked for.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by jonny_eh on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:45PM (#12694417)
That's great, it's an opportunity for another company or startup to solve.
Re:Netflix Now Only Has 31 Movies from IMDB's Top 250 List by serge2k on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:52PM (#12695952)
If you're willing to stream then buying from Amazon is an okay option.