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Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by frik on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:26AM (#10978399)
Reminds me of Pets.com

"In January 2000, the company aired its first national commercial as a Super Bowl ad which cost the company $1.2 million. [...] That ad was ranked #1 by USA Today's Ad Meter and had the highest recall of any ad that ran during the Super Bowl. [...] Although sales rose dramatically due to the attention, the company was weak on fundamentals and actually lost money on most of its sales. Its high public profile during its brief existence made it one of the more noteworthy failures of the dot-com bubble of the early 2000s."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pets.com

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by yid on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:23PM (#10978190)
> In the ad, SoFi vows to propel its members to “greatness,” but says not everyone fits the bill. “Find out if you’re great at SoFi.com,” the voiceover reads. “You’re probably not.”

If there's one thing the majority of people watching the superbowl love, it's condescension from a corporation.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by jdietrich on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @05:20AM (#10979276)
Exclusivity is a common marketing strategy.

The US Marines or the British Parachute Regiment heavily promote their status as an elite corps. Advertising for theme parks and even toys often uses the "Are you tough enough?" trope. The Hermes Birkin bag has become one of the most sought-after items in fashion, precisely because Hermes won't sell them to the 'wrong' sort of people.

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/12/25/460870534/episo...

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by PhantomGremlin on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @06:25AM (#10979484)
often uses the "Are you tough enough?" trope

But there's a world of difference between "are you tough enough?" and "you're probably not tough enough".

I agree with the GP poster, condescension won't play well.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by skewart on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:36AM (#10978436)
The only way for this to work for them is if the ad is controversial enough that people talk about it online after the game. Being incredibly condescending might work.

It's definitely an obnoxious strategy, and it's kind of sad to see. Unfortunately that doesn't mean it won't be effective. After all, we're talking about them here.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by dclowd9901 on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:59AM (#10978678)
Eh, If there's one thing I've learned about people, it's that nobody thinks they're not great. The ad is a challenge and it'll be very successful at driving traffic to their site.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by ntumlin on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:28AM (#10978405)
It's like negging. How lovely.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by ACow_Adonis on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:36AM (#10978949)
Either I live in a world where a startup is being stupid and flagrantly spending millions on an ad during superbowl, or they'll be a raging success....by spending millions airing ads which appear to insult their potential customers and pandering to base exclusivism...

Its like a social desirability Catch 22...either way, we lose.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by teekert on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:23AM (#10978914)
If your're not, you're not the target, if your are, you'll feel all the better about it.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by iamchmod on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:54AM (#10978663)
Tim Arnold pointed to one such success: his own advertisement for GoDaddy.com in the 2005 Super Bowl. The ad generated 5 million Web hits in 48 hours and doubled the company’s market share in the months that followed. Writes Arnold, “It was an outrageous spot that arguably stayed on the right side of the line of good taste and political impropriety. Viewers gave it mixed reviews, but GoDaddy’s business went through the roof as a result of it.” http://www.adweek.com/news/advertising-branding/super-bowl-a...
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by dmix on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:55PM (#10978309)
Despite all of the critical comments on here, mass marketing does work for some products. Especially high margin products with a general mixed-income user base... such as a financial loan company.

The company is run by someone experienced in running big corp financial loans:

> SoFi is run by CEO Mike Cagney, a former Wells Fargo executive and specializes in refinancing student loans for qualified millennials as well as personal loans.

So I'm sure he's at least somewhat familiar with the ROI from this type of ad. Although I fear he's playing big corp marketing game with a small-time company. $5m in the right hands could be much better spent elsewhere but some companies lack the creativity/talent to do that effective hit-the-streets type of startup marketing.

So why not write a single big pay cheque to solve a big hard problem?

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by danieltillett on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:09AM (#10978523)
>So why not write a single big pay cheque to solve a big hard problem?

It certainly is lacking in imagination. If this is the best you can come up with to target your niche then this is a bit of a warning sign that not all is right inside the company. But then again what do I know :)

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by minimaxir on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:39PM (#10978246)
SoFi's last funding round was a $1 billion Series E. They have money to burn for marketing.

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/social-finance#/enti...

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by hkmurakami on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:32AM (#10978419)
Well we need to distinguish between debt raised to lend out to customers vs equity financing.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by colechristensen on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:22AM (#10978572)
Right, it seems like the terms on a series like that for a loan company would have terms much more like buying the debt they're going to issue to their customers than buying stock in the company.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by lawnchair_larry on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:34AM (#10978427)
Series E? Haven't you pretty much failed as a company if you have to go back to the water fountain that many times?
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by wdewind on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:58AM (#10978500)
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by danieltillett on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:05AM (#10978513)
Your common stockholder (a.k.a employees) certainly have. Series E investors tend to ask be at the front of the pack if/when there is any down valuation.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by kornish on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:51AM (#10978478)
Not necessarily. Funding can be used by profitable companies to speed growth or invest in moonshot experiments as well as make up for lack of revenue. And if you don't need it, the money is cheaper; sometimes, if you're offered good terms, it can be hard to turn down having that much cash on hand.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by Terribledactyl on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:11PM (#10978157)
looks like they bought an ad on qz.com too...
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by presidentender on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:07PM (#10982775)
You think that's bad, checkout the buzzfeed 'article': http://www.buzzfeed.com/h2/bfam/sofi/swears-you-can-use-when...
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by gruez on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:26AM (#10978402)
Obligatory submarine link

http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by nickysielicki on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:12AM (#10978881)
I think it's pretty hard to believe that his vision for Reddit was anything other than what it is today.

/r/hailcorporate.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by rmason on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:49AM (#10978470)
Bill Gurley just tweeted:

"Why burn $5MM in a quarter or a month when you can do it in 30 seconds?"

Didn't we learn in the nineties this sort of thing doesn't work?

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by forrestthewoods on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:11AM (#10978536)
I wonder how fast you could burn through $5MM in Facebook ads...
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by danieltillett on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:02AM (#10978505)
But this time is different.

You would assume the board will have approved something like this so the investors have to take responsibility.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by petke on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:09AM (#10978524)
There is something a bit distasteful with a lender splashing out so much money on an advertisement. You know in the end its the customers that end up paying for it with interest.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by ry_ry on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:16AM (#10978890)
I suspect most {Product.Name} customers end up paying for {Product.Name}'s advertising by purchasing {Product.Name}?

Isn't that kinda the point! ;)

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by exolymph on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:27PM (#10981382)
This is true of all advertisements. The customers (or investors) end up footing the bill through higher prices.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by randycupertino on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:33AM (#10978425)
Holy cow- their mortgages: "Afford more than you imagined with as little as 10% down on mortgages up to $3M."

Yikes. :-/

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by somberi on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:53AM (#10978485)
More read on Sofi, if you are interested:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-03/this-lende...

Looks like Martinis are the modern day toasters.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by ulfw on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:33PM (#10978229)
Oh look, it's 1999 all over again!
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by Animats on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:05AM (#10978511)
SoFi?

Let's seem them beat the ad for So Fine.[1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io53QMwHZ48

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by JeffreyKaine on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:44PM (#10978261)
The last "startup" that I saw an ad for in the Super Bowl was salesforce with an ad for Chatter. How did that work out for them?
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by kobayashi on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:52PM (#10978294)
Wix had an ad last year and a friend inside the company told me that they were thrilled with the ROI.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by dagw on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @03:25AM (#10978924)
First of all that ad was something like 5-6 years after their IPO, so hardly a startup. But anyway their stock price is up ~120% since then.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by cylinder on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:09AM (#10978350)
I don't think these ads are as powerful as they used to be. The ads aren't as novel or interesting, and people are generally catching up with their smartphones during commercial breaks rather than focusing on the ads as entertainment.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by iambateman on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:18AM (#10978376)
I disagree. That may be true for your crowd, but I know my parents and their friends will be glued to the ads.

Eventually everyone will be bored, but I don't think it's this year.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by skewart on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:22AM (#10978391)
Your parents aren't SoFi's target market. Their target market are the people most likely to be looking at their phones.

I agree that it's probably easy for the HN crowd to think mass TV advertising is over, when it actually isn't. I just think that for certain audiences it makes a whole lot more sense than others. If I were running a startup looking to cash in on the huge numbers of boomers entering their senior years then a Super Bowl ad might make sense. For one targeting not just millennials, but relatively affluent millennials it makes a lot less sense.

Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by sjg007 on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:55PM (#10978307)
I think the smart college kids that can refi their student loans already know about SoFi. For mortgages I think credit unions are still cheaper for the well qualified.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by dawhizkid on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:37PM (#10978242)
Yikes.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by mud_dauber on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:31PM (#10978221)
The one sure way to blow through a million bucks (plus) with little payback. Terrible decision for any organization - let alone a startup.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by rorykoehler on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:56PM (#10978310)
You have data to back this up? Seems like the exposure for a mass-market product like sofi might be great in terms of ROI, rather than wasting time in the tech news circle that most startup PR efforts operate in.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by imron on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @12:07AM (#10978340)
Yes. See the tech companies advertising in the 1999/2000 superbowl.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by rorykoehler on Wednesday January 27, 2016 @01:37AM (#10978622)
I'm not sure that is a quality data point. This company is a fin-tech startup aimed at student loan consolidation. I could be wrong but I would be surprised if the Super Bowl was not a very good target for them in terms of ROI.
Re:The startup that’s making a big, expensive bet on a Super... by djrogers on Tuesday January 26, 2016 @11:48PM (#10978277)
Try $5m. $1m is so 1999...