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Re:Fork My Dongle by pud on Friday March 22, 2013 @12:04AM (#5421307)
Considered buying it. But "fork my dongle" isn't, technically, a thing.

So I'd feel kinda like a poser wearing it -- like "look, I'm a l33t haxor!" who got it wrong. Or like ones of those Chinese tattoos that doesn't actually mean anything in Chinese. Or like one of those action movies with bogus hacking scenes ("enhance!"). Or like someone wearing an Iron Maiden shirt from Urban Outfitters who's never actually heard the band.

Sigh. Sorry be "that guy."

Re:Fork My Dongle by antidaily on Friday March 22, 2013 @12:32AM (#5421388)
Exactly. It's just a reference to an unfortunate series of events that won't be worth explaining in a month. Make it 'Fork My Repo' and I'm a buyer.
Re:Fork My Dongle by mlent on Friday March 22, 2013 @02:53AM (#5421713)
As a woman I'd probably be afraid to wear a "Fork my Repo" shirt. I think you can guess why. Just some food for thought...
Re:Fork My Dongle by theorique on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:27AM (#5423513)
As a man, I would love to wear a "Fork My Vagina" shirt and watch people gawk.
Re:Fork My Dongle by rplnt on Friday March 22, 2013 @06:49AM (#5422201)
Why? (not why as "I don't see anything wrong" but why as "I really don't know, please explain")
Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:20AM (#5422693)
There's a certain type of guy who will use anything about a woman that appears vaguely sexual to a) assume she's "up for grabs" and hit on her/make inappropriate remarks since they feel she's given permission and b) call the same woman a slut and similarly-toned remarks if she tells them that, no, she's not really appreciative of being treated like a sex vending machine.
Re:Fork My Dongle by theorique on Friday March 22, 2013 @10:18AM (#5423011)
That's what she said.
Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @10:34AM (#5423122)
Really not necessary, relevant, helpful, or even funny, dude.
Re:Fork My Dongle by theorique on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:53AM (#5423699)
(nesting maxed)

I mean, literally the point of The Office is that Michael Scott is a racist, sexist bigot. And when you ironically emulate him, the result is that you kind of come off that way yourself. It's not especially pointed irony, either.

I said nothing racist here, just inappropriately sexualized (as the TWSS joke is intended to do).

Just trying to bring a little levity and lulz to a world of seriousness.

Re:Fork My Dongle by theorique on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:26AM (#5423507)
Perfectly aligned with the Michael Scott usage, then.
Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:50AM (#5423681)
Yes, very! But do you really want to emulate a guy whose whole shtick is being wrong and unlikable every time he does anything?

I mean, literally the point of The Office is that Michael Scott is a racist, sexist bigot. And when you ironically emulate him, the result is that you kind of come off that way yourself. It's not especially pointed irony, either.

Re:Fork My Dongle by ChrisNorstrom on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:32AM (#5422750)
Fork = Fuck

Repo = Vagina

A woman walking around with a metaphoric "fuck my vagina" shirt is asking to be hit on and told dirty jokes. It would be like a straight man going into a gay bar with a shirt that says "My backdoor is open".

Re:Fork My Dongle by jgrahamc on Friday March 22, 2013 @10:05AM (#5422932)
How did you get vagina from repo?
Re:Fork My Dongle by mlent on Friday March 22, 2013 @04:44PM (#5425589)
I think my point was moreso that wearing that shirt isn't asking for that at all, but will be treated that way.
Re:Fork My Dongle by mlent on Friday March 22, 2013 @01:13PM (#5424198)
In addition to the points made by unalone, I'll just add that oftentimes rape apologists will blame the victim with phrases like "Look at her outfit, she was asking for it" type of reasoning. It makes me really self-conscious of what I wear, even though I know it shouldn't matter.
Re:Fork My Dongle by dfxm12 on Friday March 22, 2013 @10:20AM (#5423027)
I see other women wearing shirts that say "kiss me, I'm Irish", and other such suggestive quotes on them, and people still don't really kiss them any more than people not wearing such a shirt.

Just offering another data point.

Re:Fork My Dongle by mlent on Friday March 22, 2013 @01:07PM (#5424170)
Sure, other people may be comfortable wearing those clothing. I'm just saying that I, personally, would not feel comfortable doing so. Unfortunately, the "did you see what she was wearing? she was asking for it!" line of thinking still exists with some people :/
Re:Fork My Dongle by hmc on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:36AM (#5422326)
Men can have their repos forked too.
Re:Fork My Dongle by VMG on Friday March 22, 2013 @06:17AM (#5422127)
What about "I'll fork your repo"?
Re:Fork My Dongle by smoyer on Friday March 22, 2013 @06:08AM (#5422100)
Fork my repo and leave my dongle alone?
Re:Fork My Dongle by mikecane on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:21AM (#5422287)
"Don't Touch My Dongle?"
Re:Fork My Dongle by hmc on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:37AM (#5422331)
She wants the D:/
Re:Fork My Dongle by stcredzero on Friday March 22, 2013 @01:58PM (#5424491)
"Your dongle: Do Not Want!"

Probably more realistic. Probably covers a larger % of cases.

Re:Fork My Dongle by candybar on Friday March 22, 2013 @10:15AM (#5422998)
If you let me touch your dongle, I'll let you fork my repo
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Re:Fork My Dongle by nicedongle on Friday March 22, 2013 @12:46AM (#5421420)
We got your back quite literally: https://teespring.com/DongleGate
Re:Fork My Dongle by clicks on Friday March 22, 2013 @01:59AM (#5421601)
So, to be clear, unlike submitted link's teespring payment arrangements (100% of proceeds will be donated to Girls who Code), 100% of proceeds on your link will be going to your pocket. Not knocking on you, just making it clear you hold no affiliation to the 'Girls who Code' organization as well.
Re:Fork My Dongle by nicedongle on Friday March 22, 2013 @02:12AM (#5421622)
Correct, there is no affiliation - I apologize if I caused any misunderstanding of that. Just trying to create a few laughs and lighten the mood of what was a pretty hectic day for a lot of people!
Re:Fork My Dongle by WayneDB on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:47AM (#5422556)
<-- Downvote here and by all means, do not explain your sensitivities.

Why should we care about donating money to Girls who Code? I'm not a girl and I don't see any reason why I should support them, particularly when the only time I hear anything about girls who code is when they're causing some drama.

You know what girls who code should do? They should write code and be humble instead of forming a group called Girls Who Code in order to get attention and hand-outs. To be clear: I'd rather buy a shirt that makes fun of all the drama caused by girls who code and donate the money to Children Who Are Hungry.

Re:Fork My Dongle by ChrisNorstrom on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:37AM (#5422778)
See you're one of those guys that's ruining it.

It's just a cause, it's just a group of people with similar desires. It's no different than black entreprenuer clubs or jewish groups. They're not asking for a hand out they're just working together.

Re:Fork My Dongle by WayneDB on Friday March 22, 2013 @12:42PM (#5424018)
Yeah, but I was responding to someone who was browbeating someone else because their tee-shirt didn't support Girls Who Code.

I have no problem with the group itself, but if you start acting like people are bad if they don't support the group then I'm going to call it out.

Re:Fork My Dongle by agilescale on Friday March 22, 2013 @10:12AM (#5422977)
You know who the target of Girls who Code are? Girls. Actual girls. Not ``going to meet some girls''(women) girls. Children. Teenagers.

Teenagers who, by culture, are reluctant to approach Computer Science and other technical fields. This education group is trying to reverse this trend.

RTFWebsite next time.

Re:Fork My Dongle by WayneDB on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:25AM (#5423497)
I did read the website. It had one sentence on it. "Dongle is a funny word. Buy this shirt and support women in tech. 100% of profits will be donated to Girls who Code."

If you're targeting females, why post this to a site that is mostly comprised of men?

Re:Fork My Dongle by telcodud on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:57AM (#5423727)
http://www.girlswhocode.com, not the pitch for this t-shirt.
Re:Fork My Dongle by Finbarr on Friday March 22, 2013 @02:05AM (#5421614)
Just to be clear - Fork My Dongle has no affiliation with Girls Who Code either. We absolutely plan to donate 100% of the profits from this shirt campaign to them, though.
Re:Fork My Dongle by hmottestad on Friday March 22, 2013 @06:48AM (#5422200)
"Today, one comment caused an caused an uproar" typo.
Re:Fork My Dongle by vacri on Friday March 22, 2013 @12:19AM (#5421348)
Re:Fork My Dongle by samstave on Friday March 22, 2013 @02:21AM (#5421643)
Forks and dongles are both male, so this is a retarded way to "support women in tech"

"Finger my ports" would be far more appropriate.

Re:Fork My Dongle by smoyer on Friday March 22, 2013 @06:11AM (#5422108)
I have a mentally handicapped son and your use of the word retarded offends me. Pick another word? (And by the way, I do agree with your premise).
Re:Fork My Dongle by samstave on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:27AM (#5423510)
As a parent, I am completely compassionate to your families situation, and obviously I was not referring in any way to you, your son, or your son's condition.

So, while I can understand why that word has a personal sensitivity to you and your situation, I obviously was not directing any of its archaic meaning toward you or your son - so I can't apologize for offending you.

What I can say, is that I appreciate how you simply informed me of the fact that it does hold offense for you and suggested I select a better descriptor, which in the future, I shall do.

Thanks!

Re:Fork My Dongle by smoyer on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:39AM (#5423587)
Then you entirely got it ... this is an example of how the whole PyCon debacle should have been handled!

I should also note that I hear this frequently, and I'm careful not to "hate" anyone using that term. The word "offended" is a pretty broad word, so it's somewhere between "I'd rather not hear that" and "I challenge you to a duel".

Re:Fork My Dongle by dasil003 on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:45AM (#5423633)
Unless we find out tomorrow that samstave has been sacked and your company is under a vicious DDOS.
Re:Fork My Dongle by samstave on Friday March 22, 2013 @12:00PM (#5423752)
YOU GAVE AWAY MY PLAN!
Re:Fork My Dongle by sneak on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:23AM (#5422289)
Being offended is your problem, not his.

Have we learned nothing in the last 24 hours?!

Re:Fork My Dongle by potatolicious on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:32AM (#5422508)
The lessons of the last 24 hours have nothing to do with whether or not someone ought to be offended about something. If anything, we've learned that there is really no effective way to establish, objectively, what is an isn't offensive.

The lesson we learned was how to handle being offended: to challenge the offender directly, find a resolution, without involving an internet mob.

OP did this the correct way, and you reacted with hostility instead.

"Retarded" is a word that the bullied (and their loved ones) have heard all throughout their lives used in a pejorative manner. It is also rarely used IRL in a non-pejorative context, even though the definition exists. For someone to associate the word with its pejorative and insulting context is not at all unreasonable.

Re:Fork My Dongle by davidw on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:35AM (#5422517)
> If anything, we've learned that there is really no effective way to establish, objectively, what is an isn't offensive.

"The only winning move is not to play"

Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:25AM (#5422719)
Except that in this case, the "player" is the one who's using certain words in a pejorative context, giving the implication that anybody to whom that word applies is somehow lesser because of it.

This is why we don't use the words "nigger", "kike", and "faggot" as insults anymore, why calling somebody a "pussy" or "woman" for not being aggressive or assertive enough is generally frowned upon, and, yes, why casually dropping the word "retarded" like it ain't no thang will get people for whom the word actually means something politely asking you not to use it anymore.

Communication is a two-way street, and it's up to the listener to determine how they interpret the words coming out of your mouth. I'm amused and irritated by how many people get frustrated when they're told that their choice of language bothers somebody. It's like, hey, here's an opportunity to refine how to interface with the world! And a bunch of people see that opportunity and go FUCK NO, I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO DO THINGS, SOMEBODY ELSE JUST STOP BEING OFFENDED OKAY

Re:Fork My Dongle by sneak on Friday March 22, 2013 @05:33PM (#5425929)
This is the internet. We use "nigger", "kike", and "faggot" all the time. Because WORDS.

If you think the correct answer is to try to get everyone everywhere to not use whatever subset of words you subjectively find offensive versus just IGNORING THINGS THAT OFFEND YOU, I'm not really sure what to tell you, other than perhaps:

Good luck with that, you retarded faggot.[1]

[1] http://youtu.be/Fcja4WFFzDw

Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Saturday March 23, 2013 @08:48AM (#5427917)
"We" do not use those words. "We" are not part of a single interconnected culture. You might use those words, since from what little contact I've had with you you come across as a narcissistic asshole with little concern for others. But I am not you, and I thank my lucky stars for that.
Re:Fork My Dongle by samstave on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:31AM (#5423544)
That was a very succinct and eloquent argument - thank you.
Re:Fork My Dongle by DanBC on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:38AM (#5422525)
Many people find the word retard (used that way) to be deeply offensive.

Many other people are not aware of that offence, and also would not like to cause that offence, and once they know that many people find the word so offensive are happy to consider their use of language and find another word.

There are lots of great words to use instead of retard and retarded.

And asking someone to consider their language isn't asking for an Internet pile-on nor asking for anyone to lose their jobs.

Re:Fork My Dongle by WayneDB on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:57AM (#5422602)
I am offended that you would be an enabler to all the complainers of the world.

Seriously. Could you stop that please?

Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:27AM (#5422729)
Genuine question! Do you believe, sincerely, that there is no good reason to complain about anything? Because, leaving aside the fact that your comment makes you a "complainer of the world", I think there are a lot of things worth saying "not cool" to.

What we should be talking about is where exactly the line is drawn, not whether complainers inherently suck.

Re:Fork My Dongle by DanBC on Saturday March 23, 2013 @04:28AM (#5427598)
People with learning disabilities get pretty lousy treatment from society.

They are subjected to verbal abuse, bullying, sexual abuse, and physical violence, sometimes from the people who are supposed to be providing care for them.[1abcd]

People with learning disabilities suffer poor health outcomes, and those are not all explained by their LD.

People with LD are deprived of their liberty, detained in hospital against their will, without trial. People get caught up in bizarre Kafkesque nightmares.[2] That man was held for a year, with all of his rights ignored.

People with LD are illegally discriminated against in the workplace assuming they can even get a job.

Given all this the pain caused by people carelessly using the word 'retard' trumps your supposed offence at my enabling 'complainers' so I say, politely as I can, FUCK YOU.

See, that's the point. I don't care if you know you are being offensive and want to cause offence. Go ahead. My post was clearly aimed at people who do not know how offensive some words are.

[1a] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/jul/05/longtermcare.g...)

[1b] (http://www.communitycare.co.uk/articles/31/07/2006/55162/cor...)

[1c] (http://www.mencap.org.uk/outofsight?gclid=CIziubGwkrYCFeXLtA...)

[1d] (http://www.dh.gov.uk/health/2012/12/final-winterbourne/)

[2] (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18998875)

Re:Fork My Dongle by andybak on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:44AM (#5422363)
I wouldn't go as far as to say that the lesson learnt recently is "If people get offended at anything it's their fault". If you think that's the case then I've got a Westboro Baptist Church to sell you...
Re:Fork My Dongle by sneak on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:46AM (#5422368)
I think the WBC is amusing. I'm deeply saddened by the fact that the top-supported petition on whitehouse.gov is a request for their free speech rights to be curtailed.
Re:Fork My Dongle by andybak on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:47AM (#5422840)
I agree. But I wouldn't feel too marvellous telling the mother of a dead serviceman that it was their problem they were offended and that they should just get over it.
Re:Fork My Dongle by pc86 on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:19AM (#5422477)
We would get along well.
Re:Fork My Dongle by darkarmani on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:45AM (#5422822)
Correction: Forks and dongles are both male, so this is a mentally handicapped way to "support women in tech"
Re:Fork My Dongle by olliesaunders on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:24AM (#5422297)
Don’t handicapped and retarded me pretty much the same thing? Why does one offend and you use the other freely?
Re:Fork My Dongle by Wintamute on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:03AM (#5422411)
Well, "handicapped" means having a condition that hampers your ability to function optimally, whereas "retarded" means backwards, mentally less advanced, stupid. "Retarded" is very obviously the more pejorative term. Personally I avoid using the term "retarded" because of the extremely negative/unpleasant connotations surrounding the use of the term "retard" in our culture. I know that by invoking either of those words I could make people with handicapped loved ones feel uncomfortable. Yes for now the full choice of my vocabulary is curtailed, but it's called consideration, and it makes you and the people around you feel good. In the meantime there's plenty of other enjoyable/juicy/harmless words to use for something you want to criticise.
Re:Fork My Dongle by quesera on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:21AM (#5422484)
"Retarded" means slowed, or delayed. The antonym is "advanced". You can retard progress, development, rotation, etc.

It has only become a pejorative term because it's a label with negative connotations when applied to people. "Handicapped" is identical in this way.

Even if you're not sensitive to peoples' feelings about words, one good reason not to use "retarded" is that it makes you sound like a playground bully.

Re:Fork My Dongle by Wintamute on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:58AM (#5422604)
I was concentrating on the pejorative use of the term as relating to criticism of people and/or things. I think its obviously fine to say, for example, "the rotation of the wheel was retarded due to friction".

> Even if you're not sensitive to peoples' feelings about words, one good reason not to use "retarded" is that it makes you sound like a playground bully.

In not wanting to sound like a playground bully aren't exhibiting sensitivity to peoples' feelings?

Re:Fork My Dongle by jpwagner on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:45AM (#5422551)
It's all part of the "euphemism treadmill". In 40 years it will no longer be acceptable to use the term handicapped:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation#History_of_...

Re:Fork My Dongle by Svip on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:00AM (#5422234)
Considering that 'retard' means slow, 'retarded way' doesn't really make any sense.
Re:Fork My Dongle by jlgreco on Friday March 22, 2013 @03:46AM (#5421820)
Forks are male?
Re:Fork My Dongle by marshray on Friday March 22, 2013 @04:01AM (#5421844)
Makes sense to me (native English speaker), albeit in a non-Euclidian kind of way.

Apparently in Spanish and a few other languages they are too, though this seems to be a minority. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fork#Translations

Re:Fork My Dongle by mogrim on Friday March 22, 2013 @04:52AM (#5421939)
In Spanish it's "una horquilla" (f.) when you're talking about git, "un tenedor" (m.) would be a fork used for eating. Not sure if that makes it better or worse :)
Re:Fork My Dongle by mfontani on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:36AM (#5422329)
Italian, "la forchetta" - feminine.
Re:Fork My Dongle by alxeder on Friday March 22, 2013 @06:26AM (#5422145)
in german it is: "Die Gabel" --> female
Re:Fork My Dongle by stcredzero on Friday March 22, 2013 @02:19AM (#5421639)
> Considered buying it. But "fork my dongle" isn't, technically, a thing.

If the design of a hardware dongle is Open Source, then it can be forked. Sorry, you did you did what you were afraid of but by movng in the opposite direction you thought.

Re:Fork My Dongle by wladimir on Friday March 22, 2013 @05:10AM (#5421969)
Open source dongles are good, everyone is welcome to fork our repos: http://www.github.com/imx6-dongle/
Re:Fork My Dongle by Semaphor on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:27AM (#5422305)
So you are one of the few people who have a proper answer to the question "What?" when people see you wearing that shirt :)
Re:Fork My Dongle by jmspring on Friday March 22, 2013 @03:39AM (#5421808)
That you are still engaged given everything else you do, thanks for being "that guy".