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Re:Fork My Dongle by sneak on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:23AM (#5422289)
Being offended is your problem, not his.

Have we learned nothing in the last 24 hours?!

Re:Fork My Dongle by potatolicious on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:32AM (#5422508)
The lessons of the last 24 hours have nothing to do with whether or not someone ought to be offended about something. If anything, we've learned that there is really no effective way to establish, objectively, what is an isn't offensive.

The lesson we learned was how to handle being offended: to challenge the offender directly, find a resolution, without involving an internet mob.

OP did this the correct way, and you reacted with hostility instead.

"Retarded" is a word that the bullied (and their loved ones) have heard all throughout their lives used in a pejorative manner. It is also rarely used IRL in a non-pejorative context, even though the definition exists. For someone to associate the word with its pejorative and insulting context is not at all unreasonable.

Re:Fork My Dongle by davidw on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:35AM (#5422517)
> If anything, we've learned that there is really no effective way to establish, objectively, what is an isn't offensive.

"The only winning move is not to play"

Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:25AM (#5422719)
Except that in this case, the "player" is the one who's using certain words in a pejorative context, giving the implication that anybody to whom that word applies is somehow lesser because of it.

This is why we don't use the words "nigger", "kike", and "faggot" as insults anymore, why calling somebody a "pussy" or "woman" for not being aggressive or assertive enough is generally frowned upon, and, yes, why casually dropping the word "retarded" like it ain't no thang will get people for whom the word actually means something politely asking you not to use it anymore.

Communication is a two-way street, and it's up to the listener to determine how they interpret the words coming out of your mouth. I'm amused and irritated by how many people get frustrated when they're told that their choice of language bothers somebody. It's like, hey, here's an opportunity to refine how to interface with the world! And a bunch of people see that opportunity and go FUCK NO, I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO DO THINGS, SOMEBODY ELSE JUST STOP BEING OFFENDED OKAY

Re:Fork My Dongle by sneak on Friday March 22, 2013 @05:33PM (#5425929)
This is the internet. We use "nigger", "kike", and "faggot" all the time. Because WORDS.

If you think the correct answer is to try to get everyone everywhere to not use whatever subset of words you subjectively find offensive versus just IGNORING THINGS THAT OFFEND YOU, I'm not really sure what to tell you, other than perhaps:

Good luck with that, you retarded faggot.[1]

[1] http://youtu.be/Fcja4WFFzDw

Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Saturday March 23, 2013 @08:48AM (#5427917)
"We" do not use those words. "We" are not part of a single interconnected culture. You might use those words, since from what little contact I've had with you you come across as a narcissistic asshole with little concern for others. But I am not you, and I thank my lucky stars for that.
Re:Fork My Dongle by samstave on Friday March 22, 2013 @11:31AM (#5423544)
That was a very succinct and eloquent argument - thank you.
Re:Fork My Dongle by DanBC on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:38AM (#5422525)
Many people find the word retard (used that way) to be deeply offensive.

Many other people are not aware of that offence, and also would not like to cause that offence, and once they know that many people find the word so offensive are happy to consider their use of language and find another word.

There are lots of great words to use instead of retard and retarded.

And asking someone to consider their language isn't asking for an Internet pile-on nor asking for anyone to lose their jobs.

Re:Fork My Dongle by WayneDB on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:57AM (#5422602)
I am offended that you would be an enabler to all the complainers of the world.

Seriously. Could you stop that please?

Re:Fork My Dongle by unalone on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:27AM (#5422729)
Genuine question! Do you believe, sincerely, that there is no good reason to complain about anything? Because, leaving aside the fact that your comment makes you a "complainer of the world", I think there are a lot of things worth saying "not cool" to.

What we should be talking about is where exactly the line is drawn, not whether complainers inherently suck.

Re:Fork My Dongle by DanBC on Saturday March 23, 2013 @04:28AM (#5427598)
People with learning disabilities get pretty lousy treatment from society.

They are subjected to verbal abuse, bullying, sexual abuse, and physical violence, sometimes from the people who are supposed to be providing care for them.[1abcd]

People with learning disabilities suffer poor health outcomes, and those are not all explained by their LD.

People with LD are deprived of their liberty, detained in hospital against their will, without trial. People get caught up in bizarre Kafkesque nightmares.[2] That man was held for a year, with all of his rights ignored.

People with LD are illegally discriminated against in the workplace assuming they can even get a job.

Given all this the pain caused by people carelessly using the word 'retard' trumps your supposed offence at my enabling 'complainers' so I say, politely as I can, FUCK YOU.

See, that's the point. I don't care if you know you are being offensive and want to cause offence. Go ahead. My post was clearly aimed at people who do not know how offensive some words are.

[1a] (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/jul/05/longtermcare.g...)

[1b] (http://www.communitycare.co.uk/articles/31/07/2006/55162/cor...)

[1c] (http://www.mencap.org.uk/outofsight?gclid=CIziubGwkrYCFeXLtA...)

[1d] (http://www.dh.gov.uk/health/2012/12/final-winterbourne/)

[2] (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18998875)

Re:Fork My Dongle by andybak on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:44AM (#5422363)
I wouldn't go as far as to say that the lesson learnt recently is "If people get offended at anything it's their fault". If you think that's the case then I've got a Westboro Baptist Church to sell you...
Re:Fork My Dongle by sneak on Friday March 22, 2013 @07:46AM (#5422368)
I think the WBC is amusing. I'm deeply saddened by the fact that the top-supported petition on whitehouse.gov is a request for their free speech rights to be curtailed.
Re:Fork My Dongle by andybak on Friday March 22, 2013 @09:47AM (#5422840)
I agree. But I wouldn't feel too marvellous telling the mother of a dead serviceman that it was their problem they were offended and that they should just get over it.
Re:Fork My Dongle by pc86 on Friday March 22, 2013 @08:19AM (#5422477)
We would get along well.