Some vibekiddie will reengineer this, and mod it.

>vibekiddie

love this term, knew instantly what it means

depends if they decide to use any kind of obfuscation here to protect "IP"

How? Anthropic hard coded anti-reverse engineering instructions into Claude.

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

...so just don't use Claude?

I thought Claude was the tool for the AI script kiddies?

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This isn't universally true, and there's a lot of pressure to bake guardrails and moderation in: Mistral for instance went from one of the most unhinged to incredibly restrictive models with Mistral 4 Large release.

Several others have done similar to greater or lesser degrees in calendar 2026, but the pressure is there across the board to limit what the open models can do without modifications that could largely only be found locally and not from online providers.

Hopefully they don't stop it from doing malware analysis. I've been using it to report malware C2s and it's a godsend for pulling apart the layers of crap they use.

Can’t see it on my end, the clanker still finesses IDAPython just fine.

Anti video-game-reverse-engineering, to be specific. It’ll refuse to decompile or reverse engineer any video game.

Just tossed the clanker at some stuff in Cyberpunk 2077, seems to be reversing it fine. Mind you I’m using my Claude sub in OMP so maybe I’m getting a less shitty system prompt.

It’d probably be trickier with multiplayer games given the slopmachine would probably assume you wanna cheat in it

It may shock you to hear that there are other coding agents than Claude.

Wait until they find out about Abliteration models

Local AI for starters, stop relying on a single timesharing AI vendor.

DeepSeek + DSH can do it with a fraction of the cost

As well as literally any other Chinese / open model.

I'm not surprised Anthropic and OpenAI are trying their best to ban / severely handicap competition and crack down on opensource. It's a major threat to their existence.

They did not. Everyone has misinterpreted what Anthropic actually did and say. This attention economy is exhausting...

This is what an Anthropic dev said:

>"to steer it away from recreating someone else's specific game"

This just means exact clones, not reverse-engineering. The article is blatantly lying. And easy to disprove by... trying it yourself.

From the article itself, "Regarding the blocking of reverse engineering, we have received direct confirmations. The first comes from our own alumnus Jarred Walton, who was trying to run checks on the software he's developing. He notes that such work had been performed with no issue until yesterday, October 31, and that switching to Opus 4.8 let him continue his work."

They can just repackage the web app and mod that if all else fails.

oh won't someone think of the discord mods!? If its too hard for them to mod, they won't have time to groom children.

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Please don't post snark like this on HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site to heart, we'd be grateful.

They’re showing how easy it is to vibe code a port of the app. A motivated developer outside Discord could do the same and release OpenDiscord or whatever if they cared enough to want to mod the app that way.

This is the way, LLMs are an enabler and force multiplier to help you build whatever interface you want on whatever protocol you have to reverse engineer.

Provide it the official client and point it at public api endpoints, set it to work to reimplement.

Ahem there is also the option to check out competitors ;)

Discord says using modified or alternative clients is against their terms of service, and they have banned people for it in the past (if they do something detectable, like enabling A/B testing feature flags that their account ID doesn't match :/)

They're not exactly friendly to that sort of thing, I wouldn't be surprised if they add some traps to catch people making their own client.

So I'd +1 the sibling comment's suggestion to consider alternatives to Discord, if you're setting up your own community

So then hide your client better? Just because a company has a policy does not mean you need to follow it.

> So then hide your client better? Just because a company has a policy does not mean you need to follow it.

How, it sounds like they're trying to catch you, e.g. I took...

> and they have banned people for it in the past (if they do something detectable, like enabling A/B testing feature flags that their account ID doesn't match :/)

...to mean they push out changes just to detect the clients who don't conform. I'm sure they could be very sneaky about it in a way that would be hard to "just do better" For instance: have some client behavior change that's hidden behind a feature flag or even calendar date, wait a long time until all official clients are updated, then trigger it and ban the laggards who can be assumed to be using an unofficial client.

Since discord announced that they would be scanning ID a lot of alternatives have sprung up, chatto and Armada are both looking promising as alternatives, plus the chatto vibed marketing materials on their Dev chat gave me a laugh the other week!

I can recommend both Matrix and Discourse forum as excellent open source selfhostable alternatives.

I like matrix, its like the new IRC for almost real time developer chat, I also do this via Discord but I'd prefer an open alternative. If you have experience running a matrix server do you find the data storage an issue? It sounded like if you federate and join the bigger channels you can balloon your storage pretty fast.

I mostly host for myself and a couple friends, so data storage hasn't been an issue. I'm sure at some point I may need to prune the attachment store, but I put it on a spinning HDD so capacity isn't an issue. (You can rent a storage VPS and those tend to have oodles of disk space.)

Take a look at Chatto. https://chatto.run/

FLOSS, easy to self host, and works nicely.

There are literally dozens of open-source Discord clients already, both vibe-coded and not; and have been for many years. Nobody needed to prove this was possible, least of all Discord.

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Hey, I work at Discord, specifically on this effort. Our entire focus here has been about improving performance and making the client really feel great.

It's difficult to believe Discord's intent is to make the client great when the recent updates have been to shove Best Buy ads into it. Even to the point of surfacing ads as notifications! In fairness, I'm jaded since I lost my account due to a sudden ultimatum to share my phone number -- extortion for my PII. So it is impossible for me to believe Discord operates in good faith.

In fairness these are probably distinct teams at discord. A team of engineers focused on performance probably _genuinely_ cares about that.

But there’s other teams and forces at play as well. So I agree with your overall sentiment but the SDEs who worked on this are perhaps not the ones shovelling adware into our faces.

This is a fair point, but it's basically being proud of making the monstrous privacy-destroying ad machine go 10% faster. With how they pressure people to doxx themselves to them (phone number verification) or be completely locked out of their accounts, there is enough predatory tactics in that company that no one should feel proud of working there.

Yeah look Discord is more than one person. A lot of us really care about making the most performant client and that's why we did this.

I don't work at Discord, but I know of very few companies that don't have "malicious" tactics in one sense or another. Ultimately they are trying to improve their own bottom line and that _rarely_ aligns with what's best for people.

Go to hell. Nobody likes bitchy customers or giving them service.

You're saying this to a random person who doesn't like the software you use. How absolutely puerile. Please either grow up or stop commenting.

Thanks, but I already left hell (Discord) for heaven (open, self-hostable platforms).

yeah and its a great place to work and they really care about the users and they are really good people.

people like you are the worst its one thing to open your mouth and try to get some klout for working at a place, that's pathetic enough, its another thing to try and dump kool aid down people's throats. pathetic.

Please drop a stripped .pdb right next to the binary or at least make it downloadable :)!

I mean, why would you want to mod the desktop client of discord instead of the web client?