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Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by peri-cl on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:18AM (#49785751)
Police unions would love for cameras to standardize on that.

There was an article on HN that one city's police force, when there were protests going on, took to playing Disney songs from loudspeakers; so that any recording of their interactions would be impossible to publish on any significant internet platform (or at least, the audio would be muted, by IP protection filters).

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by DrScientist on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:26AM (#49785835)
Did the police have the appropriate license to play those disney songs in a public space?
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by cucumber3732842 on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:38AM (#49785943)
I bet Disney's lawyers can squeeze a lot more money out of municipalities for playing the music publicly in the first place than they can out of random citizens who are uploading to Youtube.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by victorbjorklund on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:42AM (#49785994)
Im guessing the intention wasn’t that Disney would actually sue them in court but just getting it blocked automatically in YouTube, etc
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by cucumber3732842 on Monday September 21, 2026 @08:38AM (#49786514)
Of course that was the point. But malicious broadcast of copyrighted material to trigger automated enforcement systems sounds pretty far from "fair use" to me. Say nothing of the bad publicity when some video is just so bad it hits the news and now your IP is the soundtrack to a cop beatdown.

When you look at it from a legal "use it or lose it" and corporate risk perspective it's quite surprising that Disney didn't even sent cease and desists.

Edit: Of course you don't lose the copyright but your ability to litigate someone else's unfair use is a lot weaker when their lawyer can trot out a million examples that you were fine with.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by DrammBA on Monday September 21, 2026 @09:30AM (#49787064)
Disney seems to be taking a very hands-off approach when it comes to government use, so I doubt they'll do anything about this police case.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by pocksuppet on Monday September 21, 2026 @09:33AM (#49787088)
Copyright isn't "use it or lose it"
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by victorbjorklund on Monday September 21, 2026 @05:20PM (#49793615)
Pretty sure Disney can still go after real targets even if they don’t go after every children’s at home party that showed a Disney movie.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by amelius on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:27AM (#49785844)
Wouldn't that be covered by fair use?

Nobody who loves Disney songs would listen to them while also hearing police officers shouting, etc.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by peri-cl on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:33AM (#49785890)
> "Wouldn't that be covered by fair use?"

There's no human to appeal to in social media platforms. It's automated, algorithmic enforcement; and when it's wrong (or someone exploits it to be wrong, like this), you're powerless to do anything. It means nothing if you're technically in the legal right: the platforms are risk-averse and don't care about your false positive.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by GJim on Monday September 21, 2026 @08:39AM (#49786528)
> It's automated, algorithmic enforcement; and when it's wrong (or someone exploits it to be wrong, like this), you're powerless to do anything.

Ahem...

In the UK/EU Let me introduce you to article 22 of the GDPR

The data subject shall have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated processing, including profiling, which produces legal effects concerning him or her or similarly significantly affects him or her.

i.e. If subjected to an algorithm making decisions, you have an automatic right of appeal to a _human_.

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-22-gdpr/

You need to adopt a sensible data protection law if you don't want to be exploited.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by peri-cl on Monday September 21, 2026 @11:49AM (#49788823)
If you look into it more carefully, you'll find this doesn't apply to social media moderation, but only more consequential AI-biased decisions.

(In the excerpt you quoted: "legal effects" / or "significantly affects").

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by ryandrake on Monday September 21, 2026 @11:35AM (#49788652)
Oh no! It's against the law. That'll definitely stop companies from doing it with impunity.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by GJim on Monday September 21, 2026 @12:12PM (#49789194)
Yes. It will.

Though presumably you would prefer the alternative; that such companies are unrestrained in what they may do and the population at large must simply bend over and grab their ankles with both hands?

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by ryandrake on Monday September 21, 2026 @12:52PM (#49789836)
Nope, I don't want that at all. What I want is a law with actual enforcement behind it and penalties that actually deter bad actors. You don't just write a law and then stop there declaring job done.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by mitchdoogle on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @04:01PM (#49807285)
GDPR penalties DO deter bad actors. It's so effective that many American companies without a European presence at all take actions
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by UqWBcuFx6NV4r on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:31AM (#49785868)
You’re right. Tech companies will surprise us all and suddenly start obeying the DMCA to the letter instead of just taking the shortcut of “rights holders upload content, it’s fingerprinted, user content that matches fingerprint is taken down”. Then, we’ll link arms and sing kumbaya.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by 0x10ca1h0st on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:39AM (#49785953)
Just to note, you can keep the data on French servers as they are a Offshore/DMCA Ignore country.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by someonebaggy on Monday September 21, 2026 @08:15AM (#49786289)
You can. YouTube doesn't. Instagram doesn't. Facebook doesn't.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by 0x10ca1h0st on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @11:00AM (#49802480)
When watching local network flows, almost all Facebook traffic originates from Ireland.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by someonebaggy on Wednesday September 23, 2026 @12:25PM (#49818519)
That's just their most local reverse proxy.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by simiones on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:33AM (#49785895)
Theoretically, yes, absolutely. Practically, no, they would be taken down by automatic filters and you'd have to be willing to face Disney's lawyers to try to get them reinstated.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by queenkjuul on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:35AM (#49785921)
> Wouldn't that be covered by fair use?

This has never once prevented a DMCA notice from being issued, and I'm sure you can guess how easy it is to get a person at YouTube to review your appeal

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by the_other on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:21AM (#49785782)
That’s an admission of guilt by the police, right there. If you have nothing to hide… etc.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by UqWBcuFx6NV4r on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:31AM (#49785877)
“We’ve got ‘em now!”. This’ll be police brutality’s great undoing.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by nathanaldensr on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:26AM (#49785834)
Wouldn't that constitute a public performance of copyrighted material? The police themselves could be DMCAed. Haha
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by vincnetas on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:57AM (#49786137)
its basically equivalent of them punching you in the face and running away. Yeah you're right and they're wrong, but what would you do about that and your nose is bleeding. Nasty tactics.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by zdragnar on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:53AM (#49786093)
Not DMCA, but yes, that would definitely open them to a lawsuit for unlicensed performance.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by nkrisc on Monday September 21, 2026 @08:19AM (#49786338)
It doesn’t matter if it’s wrong or illegal if they know nothing will happen to them. The rule of law is dying because it’s becoming only selectively enforced.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by pocksuppet on Monday September 21, 2026 @09:33AM (#49787097)
has died