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Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by amelius on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:27AM (#49785844)
Wouldn't that be covered by fair use?

Nobody who loves Disney songs would listen to them while also hearing police officers shouting, etc.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by peri-cl on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:33AM (#49785890)
> "Wouldn't that be covered by fair use?"

There's no human to appeal to in social media platforms. It's automated, algorithmic enforcement; and when it's wrong (or someone exploits it to be wrong, like this), you're powerless to do anything. It means nothing if you're technically in the legal right: the platforms are risk-averse and don't care about your false positive.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by GJim on Monday September 21, 2026 @08:39AM (#49786528)
> It's automated, algorithmic enforcement; and when it's wrong (or someone exploits it to be wrong, like this), you're powerless to do anything.

Ahem...

In the UK/EU Let me introduce you to article 22 of the GDPR

The data subject shall have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated processing, including profiling, which produces legal effects concerning him or her or similarly significantly affects him or her.

i.e. If subjected to an algorithm making decisions, you have an automatic right of appeal to a _human_.

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-22-gdpr/

You need to adopt a sensible data protection law if you don't want to be exploited.

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by peri-cl on Monday September 21, 2026 @11:49AM (#49788823)
If you look into it more carefully, you'll find this doesn't apply to social media moderation, but only more consequential AI-biased decisions.

(In the excerpt you quoted: "legal effects" / or "significantly affects").

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by ryandrake on Monday September 21, 2026 @11:35AM (#49788652)
Oh no! It's against the law. That'll definitely stop companies from doing it with impunity.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by GJim on Monday September 21, 2026 @12:12PM (#49789194)
Yes. It will.

Though presumably you would prefer the alternative; that such companies are unrestrained in what they may do and the population at large must simply bend over and grab their ankles with both hands?

Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by ryandrake on Monday September 21, 2026 @12:52PM (#49789836)
Nope, I don't want that at all. What I want is a law with actual enforcement behind it and penalties that actually deter bad actors. You don't just write a law and then stop there declaring job done.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by mitchdoogle on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @04:01PM (#49807285)
GDPR penalties DO deter bad actors. It's so effective that many American companies without a European presence at all take actions
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by UqWBcuFx6NV4r on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:31AM (#49785868)
You’re right. Tech companies will surprise us all and suddenly start obeying the DMCA to the letter instead of just taking the shortcut of “rights holders upload content, it’s fingerprinted, user content that matches fingerprint is taken down”. Then, we’ll link arms and sing kumbaya.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by 0x10ca1h0st on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:39AM (#49785953)
Just to note, you can keep the data on French servers as they are a Offshore/DMCA Ignore country.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by someonebaggy on Monday September 21, 2026 @08:15AM (#49786289)
You can. YouTube doesn't. Instagram doesn't. Facebook doesn't.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by 0x10ca1h0st on Tuesday September 22, 2026 @11:00AM (#49802480)
When watching local network flows, almost all Facebook traffic originates from Ireland.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by someonebaggy on Wednesday September 23, 2026 @12:25PM (#49818519)
That's just their most local reverse proxy.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by simiones on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:33AM (#49785895)
Theoretically, yes, absolutely. Practically, no, they would be taken down by automatic filters and you'd have to be willing to face Disney's lawyers to try to get them reinstated.
Re:ZuckOff Know when a camera is in the room by queenkjuul on Monday September 21, 2026 @07:35AM (#49785921)
> Wouldn't that be covered by fair use?

This has never once prevented a DMCA notice from being issued, and I'm sure you can guess how easy it is to get a person at YouTube to review your appeal