Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by matt123456789 on Monday September 07, 2026 @12:40AM
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I have yet to hear someone defend that in person. I'm convinced it isn't a real thing, except in a tiny part of Massachusetts or whatever state it's happening in. Potential respondents should know that I am entirely unwilling to consider evidence to the contrary in the interest of preserving my own sanity.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by ButlerianJihad on Monday September 07, 2026 @12:07AM
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The family's story is that the boy went out to collect goose feathers. And there is some concern about whether harvesting or possession of bird feathers is legal, depending on the type of bird.
The subsequent charges and court case don't seem to mention involving Fish & Wildlife, but perhaps they want to remind parents that they should not commission their underage children to go on poaching runs.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by wood_spirit on Monday September 07, 2026 @12:44AM
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To be clear, not being allowed to possess the eggs, feathers or any other part of a protected species is probably a good thing? Not being able to pretend you “found them on the ground” is probably better stopped than the problem of children really finding things on the ground.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by anonymousiam on Monday September 07, 2026 @12:59AM
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Laws based upon speculation that you may act dishonestly are wrong. I've seen lots of police statements about arrests and detentions where the officer basically says, "We didn't know that he was not going to do something illegal."
Putting somebody in a position where they have to prove a negative is plain wrong. The prosecution needs to prove a positive, unless you're in Plymouth, Massachusetts where the prosecutor is required to disprove all defense assertions about mental illness, or the jury will acquit.
I read about this story on Reason.com a few days ago. The mother is getting her law license and is now worried about the repercussions of her having a criminal record.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by Markoff on Monday September 07, 2026 @02:54AM
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> Not being able to pretend you “found them on the ground” is probably better stopped than the problem of children really finding things on the ground.
Oh, I thought "Innocent until proven guilty" was concept known even in US, but apparently it didn't arrive there yet.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by dc3k on Monday September 07, 2026 @12:20AM
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in addition to the absolute lunacy of the charges in the main article, the list of similar cases where parents were charged/convicted for letting their children walk a short distance alone is absurd
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by rdmuser on Monday September 07, 2026 @01:24AM
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That article is from 10 years ago and it was just a checkup after a call in and no penalty so it doesn't seem comparable. Even the child services people quoted in the article emphasize that about half of these checkups involve no further action or penalties including that case.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by entropyie on Monday September 07, 2026 @03:20AM
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Haven't heard a single story like this from Ireland in the last 20 years, but I'm happy to be corrected. If anything the police here are too lenient on children running amok. It's common to see 9 year olds flying around on e-scooters. The UK might be a different story.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by atoav on Monday September 07, 2026 @12:59AM
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Seriously, US: Is this the "freedom" I keep hearing about? My 5 year old nieces all walked to school alone, in a mid sized city. As do most 5 year olds in my country, because we want them to grow into adults with the capability to navigate their own environment.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by decatur on Monday September 07, 2026 @04:46AM
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In Atlanta 30 years ago a mother wanted to pick up pictures from the photo lab. Brought her son along.
Police were waiting cos she took a picture of her son peeing.
Things escalated when she resisted the police taking away her son.
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by Simulacra on Monday September 07, 2026 @09:12AM
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I was running around alone through the woods and neighborhoods of my childhood from about five years old. Along with dozens of other kids. I feel that these nanny laws sometimes are just too overly applied. I'm shocked that she was convicted, unexpected to be overturned on appeal, but who knows…
Re:Mother convicted of: her 5 yo walks short way to pond alo...
by satiated_grue on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @08:05AM
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I took the city bus to kindergarten, alone, in the U.S.
Things have changed here since, and we have given a name to this specific issue: "Stranger Danger". Neighbors discuss vans cruising town, looking to abduct their children. I've not seen any actual arrests and trials, though.
The subsequent charges and court case don't seem to mention involving Fish & Wildlife, but perhaps they want to remind parents that they should not commission their underage children to go on poaching runs.
Putting somebody in a position where they have to prove a negative is plain wrong. The prosecution needs to prove a positive, unless you're in Plymouth, Massachusetts where the prosecutor is required to disprove all defense assertions about mental illness, or the jury will acquit.
I read about this story on Reason.com a few days ago. The mother is getting her law license and is now worried about the repercussions of her having a criminal record.
https://reason.com/2026/09/02/virginia-mom-gets-6-month-susp...
Oh, I thought "Innocent until proven guilty" was concept known even in US, but apparently it didn't arrive there yet.
https://youtu.be/y2y5zCOcS-0?si=06doXuDb1ubfbI6s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proplifting
america really is a backwards place
Social problems increase to occupy the social workers available.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-mom-cfs-bac...