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Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by Gecko4072 on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @12:48PM (#49275288)
Currently burning money quickly on official deepseek api. They are also increasing pricing starting today. V4 Flash 0731 still feels like the most outstanding model of the past few months and probably to come.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by nolist_policy on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:09PM (#49275586)
DeepSeek V4 Flash is the "too cheap to meter" of AI. And you can run the full unquantized model locally for $8000 (2x DGX Spark) at full 1M context and decent speeds: https://github.com/elsung/dgx-spark-deepseek-v4-flash#-long-...
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by sschueller on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:48PM (#49276148)
Deepseek seems to have gotten too cheap. I have been using it for a long time and it's at a point now where my credits balance barely moves even at max setting.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by eli on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:33PM (#49275951)
The Deepseek official API is good with excellent caching.

But their privacy policy is unusually bad - they can train off your prompts and completions.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by trollbridge on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:14PM (#49276493)
Use another provider from OpenRouter.

I really don’t care if they train off my prompts.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by stanac on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @03:48PM (#49277656)
V4 Pro 0813 isn't offered by other providers. I can't find this model on hugging face. It's probably not open, or not open yet.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by Eueudhsbsj32 on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:12PM (#49275638)
What's the new pricing?

The prices on OpenRouter still look the same.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by notatoad on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @03:06PM (#49277132)
nobody is saying. just "more".

but openrouter says they don't expect the price to change other than through the deepseek api, other people hosting the same model will keep charging the same price.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by Eueudhsbsj32 on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @04:36PM (#49278201)
Unfortunately cache reads with third party providers are all 10-50x more expensive than with DeepSeek, so they're not even close to as cost efficient for multi-round agent use.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by monster_truck on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @07:39PM (#49280014)
It's just a flat 1.5x during peak hours, they emailed this to everyone 2 months ago.

So still effectively limitless.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by anon373839 on Thursday August 13, 2026 @12:39AM (#49281852)
Yeah, Dax from OpenCode said that it appears to just be traffic shaping, nothing to do with the inference economics. He also said that OC have already replicated the inference cost in internal experiments.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by monster_truck on Saturday August 15, 2026 @11:28AM (#49311405)
You can derive a pretty solid yardstick of how things are going for China by what you can find on the aftermarket, currently there is a glut of nvidia 4080s that have had their memory doubled up to 32GB. I'd have to assume they got a good deal buying up piles of H100s or whatever else was eating rack space, or potentially took a loss because they have hit the constraints of the # of cards they can rack.

On the OEM side of things 9070/XTs are also shooting back up in price now that we have <$100 USB 4 egpu docks.

People like to complain about how expensive things have gotten but I think it's pretty neat that there's so much pressure for throughput that it's even viable to buy 4 docks and 4 $850 GPUs and still save money over a single 48GB card.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by igravious on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:15PM (#49275693)
yup :)

i'm doing opencode <-> openrouter <-> official deepseek api (i don't get the opencode hate, i like it)

how are you doing it?

am also using Kimi K3 via kimi-code

and also GLM 5.2 via ZCode

happy with all three, they're trailing frontier but i figure if i'm running GNU/Linux then i ought to favour open weights models with my €s -- reduced my usage of claude/gpt to the ~$20 tier just to keep abreast of claude_code/codex developments

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by literallyroy on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:21PM (#49276595)
> i don't get the opencode hate, i like it

When the company I work for was evaluating it, there were multiple rough points. Their terms and conditions allowed training on prompts, the default behavior was to route prompts to their servers for conversation summary/labeling. One of their lead maintainers is also super toxic on many issues.

Sorry this is all baseless with no links, I’m on my phone and locating those issues again isn’t something I have time for.

It’s a good tool I just don’t like the privacy policies nor maintainers attitudes.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by HDBaseT on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @06:51PM (#49279667)
1. The privacy policy was a bit misleading, but it has since been updated to reflect the exact state of things. [1]. For example, DeepSeek models have ZDR, although their ZDR contract is renewed monthly. It COULD change. You need to toggle a Setting in your account to use DS.

2. At one point (apparently) summary and title generations were handled by Grok. This has changed, by default it uses your 'small_model' configured in your config. By default, it will use a cheap model provided by your provider. E.g. if you have ChatGPT API connected, it will use the cheapest ChatGPT model. OpenRouter users MAY see it routed to a free model however. [2] [3]

[1] - https://opencode.ai/docs/go/#privacy [2] - https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/blob/9b805e1cc4ba4a984... [3] - https://opencode.ai/docs/config/

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by Jsttan on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:07PM (#49275564)
What is the new price through?
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by Gecko4072 on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:10PM (#49275606)
https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/

edit: there are banner announcements saying v4 flash pricing will increase first then overall by an undetermined amount

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by nchmy on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:13PM (#49275659)
i dont see any price increase there... what am i missing?
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by vdfs on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:31PM (#49275931)
It's a big confusion, some[0] say an email was sent about significant price increase, personal I haven't seen anything official

[0] https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/deepseek-pl...

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by surgical_fire on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:35PM (#49276001)
The email is real, I received it from DeepSeek itself. I probably received it because I buy tokens directly from them.

No actual price increase however.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by lionkor on Thursday August 13, 2026 @03:50AM (#49282907)
Also got the email. It warned of a future large price increase, and to carefully watch usage.

I read it as a "hey we will make stuff more expensive, don't miss it"

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by GrinningFool on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:32PM (#49276731)
The banner on account settings; and a blurb on the pricing page: "We plan to raise the overall pricing for DeepSeek API services in the near future, with a significant increase expected. Please plan your usage accordingly. The specific pricing plan will be subject to official notice."
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by alecsm on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:30PM (#49275918)
Right below the pricing it is stated that they plan to increase the prices in the near future.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by nchmy on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:40PM (#49276061)
"near future" is not "today"
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by alecsm on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @03:13PM (#49277226)
It can be because the message has been there for some weeks now.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by minraws on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:11PM (#49275628)
isn't it the same old pricing? did they increase V4 Pro pricing already?
Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by anigbrowl on Thursday August 13, 2026 @01:35PM (#49289306)
It has been updated now, and will take effect next week:

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing/ Briefly Pro is $2/1m output in off-peak periods, $4 in peak. Flash is $0.66/$1.32. Input tokens are still much cheaper.

I don't mind these prices but I find the need to check against two different time brackets of unequal length an annoying distraction. I guess I need to make some little background app or plugin.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 by killingtime74 on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @09:39PM (#49280880)
Just use opencode go, you get more bang for your buck. Same api