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Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by ceejayoz on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:02PM (#46529949)
Skim/lowfat milk just... takes the cream out.

The same rule changes tightened the rules on added sugar.

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by jibe on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:23PM (#46530321)
Taking the cream out is (by some diet theories) bad. The fat in whole milk slows down the absorption of lactose, leading to a slower rise in blood glucose compared to skim milk. Whole milk is more satiating as well, because of the fat.

If you are trying to have some reasonable balance of fat, protein, and carbs in your diet, pushing kids from whole to skim milk is going to move the diet towards consuming more sugar/carbs, even if you have a seperate rule trying to tighten sugar consumption.

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by ceejayoz on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @01:27PM (#46530390)
None of that makes "remove the fats and replace them with sugar" in the post upthread accurate.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by jibe on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @03:53PM (#46532532)
When you take a high satiety, high fat item, and replace it with a non-fat, low satiety item, you are in effect replacing fat with sugar, because you will eat/drink more of it to get same number of calories, and same amount of fullness.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by astura on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @04:02PM (#46532696)
Milk is not high satiety, come on now.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by jibe on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @08:13PM (#46535743)
Drink a glass of whole milk, then drink a cup of skim milk and tell me there is no difference. Try the same with full fat yogurt and non-fat yogurt. Big difference in satiety, but more importantly blood sugar response. Roughly the same amount of fat in a glass of whole milk as 1/4 pound burger.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by 125123wqw1212 on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @09:12PM (#46536291)
I don't think anyone ( at least around me ) is drinking milk based drink twice as much just because they feel like they get less energy per drink from skimmed milk.

You are making an argument that people do so, do you have any evidence for this ?

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by llm_nerd on Thursday January 08, 2026 @07:15AM (#46540181)
>Big difference in satiety, but more importantly blood sugar response.

There is a negligible difference in glycemic index / glycemic load between the variations of M.F. milk products. Some analysis has skim milk as having a lower GI.

Unflavoured Milk is not relevant to the GI conversation.

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by astura on Thursday January 08, 2026 @09:03AM (#46541067)
>Drink a glass of whole milk, then drink a cup of skim milk and tell me there is no difference

Ok, there's no different.

Beyond that, Minor differents in glycemic load are irrelevant if you're consuming milk with a meal, like the kids in school are doing.

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by cestith on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @04:33PM (#46533222)
Skim milk is not "low fat". It is fat free. In the US milk labeled as low fat is 1% or 2% milk fat (usually 2%). Whole milk is around 4%. Skim milk rounds to 0%.

2% milk is a pretty good balance.

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by ceejayoz on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @06:15PM (#46534621)
> Skim milk is not "low fat"

Read the slash as “or”, not “also known as”.

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by worik on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @02:15PM (#46531091)
In my country the lowest fat milk has added lactose.

It did twenty years ago, when I noticed, I have not bought it since

Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by Qem on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @04:16PM (#46532957)
Is it added deliberately or just concentrated as a side-effect? Say fat comprised, let me guess, 5% of whole milk volume. If you take away this 5% v/v component, now everything else in one liter of skim milk is 5% concentrated by comparison, unless they add water.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by worik on Thursday January 08, 2026 @07:19PM (#46548470)
Listed as an ingredient
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday January 07, 2026 @07:03PM (#46535130)
For the milk you don't add sugar directly, but you end up adding more carbs to the rest of the meal when you take out nothing but fat from the milk.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by ceejayoz on Thursday January 08, 2026 @09:32AM (#46541423)
Whole milk is 4% milkfat, to skim's 0%. We're not talking much here.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by Dylan16807 on Thursday January 08, 2026 @02:33PM (#46545366)
The fat is about half the calories. Removing all the fat reduces the calories in milk, but now it's 60% sugar calories instead of 33%. It's much.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by ceejayoz on Thursday January 08, 2026 @03:04PM (#46545738)
That's like saying a dollar bill is worth more if I give the rest of my money away.
Re:Sugar industry influenced researchers and blamed fat for ... by Dylan16807 on Thursday January 08, 2026 @03:55PM (#46546331)
It's saying it's you give all your change away and then replace it with new money then you increase your bill value.

The meal does not get smaller. The meal has a calorie target, and the milkfat gets replaced with new food. And almost never will that new food be a chunk of lard, so it will increase the carb ratio.