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Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by amelius on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:44AM (#45635025)
After reading the article I have no idea what is different in the new version.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by the__alchemist on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:49AM (#45635074)
What I can't figure out is how the new version attached to the fabric. That's at the core of this right? Metal-fabric interface.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by grapesodaaaaa on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:17PM (#45635359)
I wonder how fabrics will handle the mechanical wear vs the durable tape “track” used in a traditional zipper
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by OptionOfT on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:34PM (#45635549)
They won't. They only work with garments < 1.3mm. Nothing here is about durability.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by iancmceachern on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:21PM (#45635405)
“The absence of the tape posed various production challenges,” Nishizaki says. “We had to develop new manufacturing equipment and a dedicated sewing machine for integration.”
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by mrits on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:28PM (#45635500)
They found a worse way to create a worse zipper with a proprietary machine that no one owns . This is the future
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by tempestn on Sunday October 19, 2025 @02:07PM (#45636426)
It's not worse; it's different, and better for some applications. Specifically when high flexibility and/or sleek appearance are valued above cost and durability. One example that immediately comes to mind is zip-up pockets in athletic wear.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by jjhale on Sunday October 19, 2025 @02:17PM (#45636523)
The pdf linked in other threads shows that the teeth have a fabric cord running through the middle of them. Then each tooth is surrounded by about 18 tiny stitches.

https://imgur.com/a/o1jxAuS

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by Kikawala on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:57AM (#45635158)
PDF catalog for the AiryString has a lot more details and technical information.

https://ykkdigitalshowroom.com/assets/AiryString_202507_en.p...

It looks like there is a core cord inside the zipper teeth. The specialized sewing machine stitches the cord to the fabric in between each teeth... tooth?

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by dewey on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:47AM (#45635049)
> Their new AiryString zipper looks ordinary at first glance. Then you realize what’s missing: there’s no tape. That absence transforms everything. Without the woven fabric that normally flanks the teeth, the AiryString is lighter, sleeker, and far more flexible.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by bookofjoe on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:53AM (#45635115)
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by amelius on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:55AM (#45635137)
Yes, so the zipper hasn't changed, just the way it is attached to the fabric.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by bookofjoe on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:02PM (#45635207)
From the Wired article: "The teeth were redesigned..."
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by card_zero on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:39PM (#45635578)
Redesigned to attach to the fabric in a different way, I think.

Usually the teeth are attached somehow to the fabric strip. I think the strip has a ridge at the edge where the teeth go, and the teeth are clamped over that ridge to hold them in place. Then the fabric strip is easy to sew onto a garment. It looks like the new design has only the ridge, hence it's called a string, and is hard to sew onto a garment.

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by iancmceachern on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:23PM (#45635422)
No, from the article:

"Without them, YKK had to rethink every step of production

The teeth were redesigned, the manufacturing process rewritten, and new machinery developed to attach the closure to garments. “The absence of the tape posed various production challenges,” Nishizaki says."

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by pwg on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:51AM (#45635095)
The fourth, and last, photo of zippers in the article shows the old and new versions side by side, making it easy to see what is different.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by oompydoompy74 on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:48AM (#45635068)
Then you didn’t read the article. It’s spelled out pretty explicitly.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by WesolyKubeczek on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:47AM (#45635055)
Apparently no tape, the zipper is bare, so special sewing machines are required and you plebs cannot just repair your clothes affordably (or yourself) anymore.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by gilfoy on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:51AM (#45635096)
All the other zippers will still exist. Clothes without zippers will still exist. Roughly nobody does this anyway.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by konart on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:09PM (#45635285)
>Roughly nobody does this anyway.

I had at least z dozen zippers replaced through my life. Some times you a very good product with poorly chosen zipper, some times it is some sort of an accident.

I find the idea of buying a new coat instead of fixing a small part of the old one weird.

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by iancmceachern on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:24PM (#45635438)
This doesn't change that, I expect you can still remove this a zipper and have another sewn on, just as before
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by konart on Sunday October 19, 2025 @01:37PM (#45636108)
You can, but you (or rather atelier\studio) will have to buy a special machine to do so.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by tempestn on Sunday October 19, 2025 @02:09PM (#45636445)
If these become commonplace, so will such machines.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by konart on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:23AM (#45644996)
I hope in case of success this will be just one of the programs in your generic sewing machine.

I'm afraid YKK might not be generous

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by tempestn on Sunday October 19, 2025 @02:12PM (#45636473)
I'm in my 40s and don't think I've ever replaced a zipper. I'm sure a handful have broken over my lifetime, but never on something nice enough to be worth repairing. I wouldn't buy clothing based on the possibility of this (to me) extreme edge case.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by stavros on Sunday October 19, 2025 @05:43PM (#45638305)
> nice enough to be worth repairing

I guess it's just cost of repair vs cost of garment. I always opt to spend $15 replacing the zipper than to buy another coat or whatnot.

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by oblio on Sunday October 19, 2025 @05:52PM (#45638372)
That's $15 including new zipper and cost of labor?
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by stavros on Sunday October 19, 2025 @06:02PM (#45638442)
Yes, but I live in a LCoL country.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by Gualdrapo on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:58AM (#45635169)
> Roughly nobody does this anyway.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and at least here in this so-called "third world" country plenty of people makes their clothing to be repaired in any way or do it themselves (even me, sometimes)

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by Gualdrapo on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:54AM (#45635121)
Funny enough they mention that this new zipper cuts emisions but at the same time requires another (propietary) machine to sew them into clothing... are net emmisions actually going to be diminished?
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by allears on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:09PM (#45635286)
Not only that, but DIYers and alteration/repair will be out of luck too.
Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by renewiltord on Sunday October 19, 2025 @12:25PM (#45635458)
You can. You’d just attach a fabric tape zipper and the clothes would stop being as flexible. So you get the best of both worlds: a fancy zipper to start with that delivers increased performance and then you remove the performance and have an old zipper placed in there.

You just get an extra semi rigid fabric track when you repair. Your clothes should still work.

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by adrianmonk on Sunday October 19, 2025 @08:38PM (#45639240)
I wonder if you could do repairs by hand stitching. Presumably the special machine does a special stitch which is lined up exactly with the teeth. A regular machine can't do that, but I bet a skilled human could.

You'd need a way to hold the zipper teeth and the fabric in place while you stitch. Maybe temporary tape or some special-purpose jig thing.

Re:The Zipper Is Getting Its First Major Upgrade in 100 Years by more_corn on Sunday October 19, 2025 @11:10PM (#45639912)
That cloth strip the zipper is attached to so it can be sewn into the clothing is gone.