Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by echoangle on Saturday August 10, 2024 @05:02PM
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Isn’t the implication of the sentence that they were chosen specifically for those properties and wouldn’t have been chosen otherwise?
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by superb_dev on Saturday August 10, 2024 @05:28PM
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The implication is that they were chosen because of that, but not that this was the only qualification.
It could easily be that multiple teams looked qualified during bidding for the job and that this was the distinguishing factor.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by simpaticoder on Saturday August 10, 2024 @06:06PM
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No other qualification was mentioned. I've been maximally downvoted for my comment, but I stand by it. I stand by it as someone who prefers the company of queer people, and who's favorite programmer is trans (Justine Tunney, fwiw). Note: she is not my favorite trans programmer, she is my favorite programmer, who happens to be trans. Identity becomes a problem when it displaces everything else about a person - it dehumanizes, and in DEF CON's case, blinds them to the relevant strengths and weaknesses of a firm.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by Dylan16807 on Saturday August 10, 2024 @07:20PM
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> No other qualification was mentioned.
That's because "ability to do the project" is a given. It is always a requirement, outside of specific corruption scenarios.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by zarathustreal on Saturday August 10, 2024 @07:58PM
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Are you really asserting that identity politics playing a role in vendor evaluations isn’t a corruption scenario?
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by Dylan16807 on Saturday August 10, 2024 @08:19PM
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Yes, as long as nobody's being paid off by Big Gay.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by Y_Y on Monday August 12, 2024 @06:51PM
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Ask HN: How can I get on the payroll of Big Gay?
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by smsm42 on Saturday August 10, 2024 @05:06PM
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If they have to reach for idpol at the start to make their case, my immediate suspicion is the case is not that strong.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Saturday August 10, 2024 @05:05PM
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And yet, a party to this conflict thought it was a relevant piece of information to the audience. Now, the fact that OP noted it as interesting is not completely without merit. After all, interested party certainly thought it was worth to mention.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by firesteelrain on Saturday August 10, 2024 @10:32PM
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It’s supposed to provoke an emotional response
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by squigz on Sunday August 11, 2024 @09:38AM
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In who, I wonder? Most people I see reacting emotionally appear to be opposed to even mentioning that.
Re:DEF CON's response to the badge controversy
by firesteelrain on Sunday August 11, 2024 @10:40AM
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To those sympathetic to awarding contracts to those with that societal lean. It’s irrelevant to their ability to perform a contract for DEFCON. If that was never mentioned it would have never been a point at all.
If it was meant to be a point then it can make people think that those with that societal lean are poor performers. It’s not helping their cause.
They could have easily rephrased that sentence to simply say “They expressed interest in working with us” and the point they’re making is the same.