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Re:Radio Garden by gaudystead on Friday July 05, 2024 @11:43PM (#40888022)
I love this website! Also, if you like this site, be sure to check out radiooooo.com for a similar premise, but with more of a historical aspect. I'll additionally plug everynoise.com solely because it has every genre of music you've ever heard of, and then thousands more!

Both sites (and radio.garden) are great for finding new music.

Re:Radio Garden by mitchbob on Friday July 05, 2024 @11:21PM (#40887959)
Discussed previously (123 comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23477771
Re:Radio Garden by IncreasePosts on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:18AM (#40888136)
Why did I listen to a Lowe's commercial on a radio station from Port Mathurin? For reference, an island in the middle of nowhere in the Indian Ocean: https://radio.garden/visit/accacia/Y2DoPxzU

My guess is they are just streaming spotify on some VPN with a stolen account that puts them in Florida.

Re:Radio Garden by qxxx on Saturday July 06, 2024 @02:38AM (#40888554)
I am in Germany, I hear German ads there.
Re:Radio Garden by RecycledEle on Saturday July 06, 2024 @04:03AM (#40888910)
I hear English language ads while listening from Texas.

It seems they embed ads from out local areas to make money.

You will see the timer stop when the ad is playing.

Re:Radio Garden by czottmann on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:09PM (#40891317)
I've heard a lot of German ads on Nigerian stations. Turns out they were all served by zeno.fm ("The easiest way to create and listen to radio stations and podcasts") which seems to proxy local stations, making money from cramming ads into the streams.
Re:Radio Garden by knodi123 on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:05AM (#40888276)
It was a challenge finding something truly foreign. I just kept stumbling across america's best hits of the 80s and 90s, all across the globe. With a steady helping of generic euro-pop.

But some revival preaching in africa really felt like visiting a foreign place, as did some cape town talk radio. Obviously the islamic world has a very different playlist, so that was a gimme. What a neat concept!

Re:Radio Garden by gala8y on Saturday July 06, 2024 @06:16AM (#40889434)
"(...) Get into the water, let is splash across your face. Don't you loose your party, don't you loose your faith (...)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Vtg2Oc4IU

Re:Radio Garden by specialist on Saturday July 06, 2024 @11:23AM (#40890939)
Perfect. Thank you. I needed this today. I loved ONE, back in the day.

Have you heard of Lyrics Born? Hearing this track again makes me wonder about their respective influences.

Re:Radio Garden by gala8y on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:04PM (#40891279)
Cool, really happy you like it. I can't decipher/find ONE/Born, thou.
Re:Radio Garden by specialist on Saturday July 06, 2024 @04:41PM (#40893089)
Debut single:

Lyrics Born - Calling Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-kV6TRs8PU

Um. Just did a quick stroll down memory lane. Ya. Me Phi Me's album ONE hasn't exactly held up well... So here's another movie soundtrack single that I still enjoy:

Me Phi Me ft Jeriko One - Here We Come https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQsmJif3RTA

Re:Radio Garden by gala8y on Sunday July 07, 2024 @05:35AM (#40896310)
Revival was on a soundtrack of a (mediocre) movie Reality Bites. It has wonderful sense of South-style communion for me. I remember that was the only song by Me Phi Me, which I enjoyed at that time.

Thx for links, good stuff. Let us keep it up.

Re:Radio Garden by gala8y on Saturday July 06, 2024 @06:19AM (#40889446)
When I was first time in Paris, me and friends were blown away by the sheer number of stations and good, rave-class, electronic music on the waves. We used to wander around the city with walkman's on. Sounds weird... good times.

Also, when I was a small kid, used to go to the furthest room in the house, close the door and lay down with small, pocket radio, catching foreign stations on LW. The further, the better.

Radio rocks. Great mash-up.

Re:Radio Garden by vishnugupta on Saturday July 06, 2024 @07:05AM (#40889649)
> when I was a small kid .. lay down with small, pocket radio, catching foreign stations on LW.

I’m long past being a kid and I still do this

Re:Radio Garden by gala8y on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:01PM (#40891247)
That's cool... I would have a hard time finding a radio-set around, though. Few months ago I spent half of a night watching video streams from tokyo public transit stations, so I guess kid inside is doing fine.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37829061 https://minitokyo3d.com/

Re:Radio Garden by Stratoscope on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:02PM (#40891261)
> lay down with small, pocket radio, catching foreign stations on LW.

You were probably listening to shortwave stations, not longwave. Most international broadcasting was done in the shortwave bands, typically in the range of 3 MHz (100 meter wavelength) to 30 MHz (10 meter wavelength).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave_radio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave

Re:Radio Garden by gala8y on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:06PM (#40891291)
You are right. Short waves, tiny move and you are on another station.
Re:Radio Garden by an_aparallel on Saturday July 06, 2024 @11:53PM (#40895155)
France is amazing for nurturing artists, they make some of the coolest electronic around
Re:Radio Garden by tristramb on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:02AM (#40890204)
Try Finland.
Re:Radio Garden by 082349872349872 on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:02PM (#40891660)
Here I was expecting Finn Tango and I landed on a chiptune station...
Re:Radio Garden by atlas_hugged on Saturday July 06, 2024 @11:45AM (#40891116)
Nigeria has lots of good stuff
Re:Radio Garden by satvikpendem on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:19PM (#40894537)
Your first paragraph is similar to when I first started traveling and was surprised to hear so much American music everywhere. That's when I truly realized the scale of American cultural hegemony and what "soft power" really means.
Re:Radio Garden by igitur on Monday July 08, 2024 @03:30AM (#40903328)
I assume you're referring to Cape Talk 567 [1], which broadcasts on 567 kHz AM/MW in the Cape Town region. I also enjoy it, although the late night political debates can become tiring. It has a sister talk radio station in Gauteng, Radio 702 [2]. Both are owned by Primedia.

[1] https://www.primediaplus.com/station/capetalk [2] https://www.primediaplus.com/station/702

Re:Radio Garden by eigenqwertz on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:38AM (#40888378)
In a similar vein: Shirley and Spinoza - https://compound-eye.org/

Wonderful random sounds from all over the place

Re:Radio Garden by mmmnnn on Saturday July 06, 2024 @04:24AM (#40888987)
can you believe i’ve found this just on pure luck, trying to listen to exotic asian sounds? it’s really isolated as a location. it’s one of my favs
Re:Radio Garden by rurban on Saturday July 06, 2024 @02:34AM (#40888543)
I once had a little radio show (10 episodes or so) exploring radio garden. I picked some, contacted them for permission, talked a bit and was happy. South American classic music (Strawinsky!) vs Korean classic music (way too much Austrian influence, boring), KTRU Houston vs WFMU Jersey, Rwanda free radio as classic example of inciting genocide, lots of interesting history bits.
Re:Radio Garden by butz on Saturday July 06, 2024 @03:12AM (#40888694)
It would be great to have some radio static playing when switching radio stations.
Re:Radio Garden by Brajeshwar on Saturday July 06, 2024 @03:59AM (#40888891)
Ah! It is its time to be submitted again. I remember submitting it when I found it a few years back. This pops up once a while (seeing a pattern here) and people loving it.

2016: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13164058

2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18427701

2020: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23477771

2022: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30441847

Re:Radio Garden by Unbefleckt on Saturday July 06, 2024 @04:21AM (#40888979)
If you're in the UK don't bother downloading for the full experience, it still won't let you listen to anything outside of the UK.
Re:Radio Garden by FerretFred on Saturday July 06, 2024 @06:40AM (#40889537)
Came here to say that! It's a nice app and very innovative, but if I have fire up a f*** VPN every time I want to listen to stations outside the UK, forget it!

I don't think the developers care either: I've emailed numerous times without an answer, and even less-than-favourable reviews on the App Store failed to elicit a response. At least tell us the reason for the UK- hatred if you're not going to fix it?!

Re:Radio Garden by bix6 on Saturday July 06, 2024 @08:56AM (#40890171)
It’s a copyright issue.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Garden

“unfortunately the restriction must be extended for an indefinite period due to copyright and neighbouring rights related matters that require clarification. ”

Re:Radio Garden by dwroberts on Saturday July 06, 2024 @11:17AM (#40890898)
(Edited from original comment): Found the actual cause of the problem: https://mediawrites.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/judgment....

Just like TuneIn, they are behaving like a broadcaster and aren't paying license fees, so I guess they are afraid of similar legal action

Re:Radio Garden by zarzavat on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:04AM (#40890216)
Not sure if it’s still true but you can disable the check very easily using devtools. No need for a VPN.
Re:Radio Garden by kreetx on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:28AM (#40890338)
Do you happen to know, why are they not using TLS?
Re:Radio Garden by K7PJP on Saturday July 06, 2024 @05:50PM (#40893584)
“Our original configuration was fully HTTPS-enabled; however, we had to adjust this when browser manufacturers started blocking HTTPS websites from loading HTTP streams.

Approximately 20% of the stations featured on Radio Garden are accessible via HTTP streams, which would become inaccessible if we switched entirely to HTTPS. Given the recent changes in Chrome's behavior towards forcing an HTTPS connection, we are considering moving back to an all-HTTPS setup in the near future.”

https://www.reddit.com/r/RadioGarden/s/0FByul10C0

Re:Radio Garden by kreetx on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @05:19AM (#40914019)
Thanks! I wish they had a https site that had some mechanism (even manual instruction) to go around that issue.
Re:Radio Garden by tristramb on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:03AM (#40890212)
Try Tor browser
Re:Radio Garden by steelegbr on Monday July 08, 2024 @05:02AM (#40903801)
Music rights are a bit of a mess across the Atlantic. PRS/PPL licences don't reciprocate with the American equivalents and vice versa. Either it's two sets of licences (and possibly legal entities) or you end up geo blocking. Though on the up side you can stream to parts of Europe and even Australia from the UK IIRC.

Licencing bodies are also fairly actively monitoring these things. I've had them try to chase me for royalties for services that have been shut down because they're still listed in public directories.

Re:Radio Garden by tempodox on Saturday July 06, 2024 @05:19AM (#40889213)
Being able to pick radio stations by geolocation is a really nice feature. I can go explore the world! But then it's a bit disappointing how similar many stations sound, no matter where they are.
Re:Radio Garden by andrewstuart on Saturday July 06, 2024 @07:36AM (#40889794)
One of my vague project plans is to convert a world globe so when you touch a location it plays the radio from there.

Like this site but in real life.

Re:Radio Garden by assimpleaspossi on Saturday July 06, 2024 @08:24AM (#40890005)
What is the point of this? Why is it here? Is there something special going on?

So many links to web sites happen where one has no clue why it is posted or what it does.

Re:Radio Garden by dinkleberg on Saturday July 06, 2024 @10:06AM (#40890560)
Have you tried using it?
Re:Radio Garden by assimpleaspossi on Saturday July 06, 2024 @10:45AM (#40890744)
Yes but my point is that you need to use it to initially find out anything about it. What does it do?

Then I question what this does that a simple Google search can't (find local radio stations that play online).

Re:Radio Garden by Waterluvian on Saturday July 06, 2024 @08:24AM (#40890008)
How exactly was this made? Are online radio streams just so guaranteed to be a consistent, open API for use?

It feels like it would be ridiculously tedious if there were a thousand different ways stations might set up their stream.

Re:Radio Garden by zombiemama on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:33AM (#40890368)
In station submission form there's a stream URL field with following restrictions:

The stream may be submitted in MP3, AAC, M3U or PLS format, and must be online 24/7. Please enter a secure HTTPS url if you have one.

Re:Radio Garden by bix6 on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:00AM (#40890190)
Favorite stations?

Couple of mine: Hip hop lounge in DC, zootopia Stanford, alpha boys Kingston, Kauai community, soggy dollar BVI, smooth jazz NY

Re:Radio Garden by zombiemama on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:44AM (#40890423)
1. Radio Študent Ljubljana - public radio, est. 1969 - https://radio.garden/listen/radio-student-fm-89-3/H12zH5Xj

2. KFFP Freeform Portland - https://radio.garden/listen/kffp-freeform-portland/wgDi5KFv

3. Radio Gugelhopf from Zürich - internet radio - https://radio.garden/listen/radio-gugelhopf/q4oFNLjR

Re:Radio Garden by IAmGraydon on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:11AM (#40890254)
When I think of the far reaches of Siberia, I don’t really think of people blasting upbeat euro techno, but there you have it.
Re:Radio Garden by LastTrain on Saturday July 06, 2024 @09:43AM (#40890418)
It’s a small world
Re:Radio Garden by coreyhn on Saturday July 06, 2024 @10:10AM (#40890582)
This is really fun! Reminds me of early internet days when there was fun discovery sites like this.
Re:Radio Garden by grandchild on Saturday July 06, 2024 @10:23AM (#40890636)
It's a bit like the radio version of http://astronaut.io :)
Re:Radio Garden by dreadnaut on Saturday July 06, 2024 @11:47AM (#40891142)
When this first came out I retrieved the list of stations (around 20k, I think it was just a JSON file), converted it to .m3u8, and I have since used it as a playlist for WinAmp. It's playing one of those streams right now, using 4MB of memory and practically no CPU.

Over the years, several streams (or the station themselves unfortunately) have gone offline. To refresh my list I'd have to scrape the "globe", and it doesn't feel like the right think to do.

Has anyone encountered a similar website, but with a simple list of public streams?

Re:Radio Garden by thatloststudent on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:34PM (#40891474)
You should be able to do this with radio-browser.info [1]. Specifically, look at the documentation that lists all stations.

[1] - https://de1.api.radio-browser.info/#General

Re:Radio Garden by lioeters on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:03PM (#40891667)
Direct link to a JSON file with ~50k Internet radio stations.

http://de1.api.radio-browser.info/json/stations

> Everyone is free to use the collected data (station names, tags, links to stream, links to homepages, language, country, state) in their works. I give all the rights I have at the accumulated data to the public domain.

https://www.radio-browser.info/

Re:Radio Garden by dijit on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:07PM (#40891298)
I'd like to just give some thanks to the author; I use this sometimes when I'm feeling homesick to hear my old local radio stations in the UK. It really quells the feeling of disconnect I sometimes feel to my homeland and gives me comfort when I feel wayward in my spirit.
Re:Radio Garden by dylan604 on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:02PM (#40891664)
This is an interesting comment in that the stations in my home town are no longer the same. Clear Channel has come in bought up all (only a slight exaggeration) of the stations. The stations I listened to as a kid are no longer around, and some of the stations that are still on the air are different formats. If child me were to listen to radio today, nothing would be recognizable
Re:Radio Garden by dijit on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:23PM (#40891777)
largely this is true for me, with the exception of Heart FM and BBC.

However the UK has strong regional accents (especially in ads) and local radio tends to reflect that, which makes me feel like home.

Re:Radio Garden by alabhyajindal on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:36PM (#40891485)
Beautifully done!
Re:Radio Garden by AstroJetson on Saturday July 06, 2024 @12:55PM (#40891608)
Shout out to my local school district's radio station

https://radio.garden/visit/wilmington-de/IgIAlhdo

WMPH.net 91.7Mhz FM They play everything from Big Band to Taylor Swift (sometimes even back to back). Give a listen, if nothing else they will go "Wow people from around the world listen to us!"

Re:Radio Garden by zoogeny on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:31PM (#40891836)
It went straight to my local radio station and I listened for 2 minutes straight of ads! It was actually kind of weird to hear ads for local businesses, like the pub just down the road.
Re:Radio Garden by cactusplant7374 on Saturday July 06, 2024 @01:54PM (#40891976)
This is really cool. My wife and I spent a few months in Merida, MX. Great to listen to music broadcast from there. A great city with a few disadvantages. ;)
Re:Radio Garden by smusamashah on Saturday July 06, 2024 @02:19PM (#40892132)
This also reminds of WebSDR online radio which you can tune just like a real radio

http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

There are many of these radios though

http://websdr.org/

http://kiwisdr.com/public/