I Posted Myself Out of a Job

Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by constantly on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:52AM (#36596458)

Setting aside the gigantic leap and cognitive dissonance required to imply that a short-serving Chief Software Office is somehow a war criminal and answering your actual question: Avoiding factual statements that have to do with race, religion, politics, sexual orientation, and gender is a good start.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by coldtea on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @04:54AM (#36597654)

So, if say you're black and your employer pulls some racist shit on you, or a woman and they pull some sexist shit, you shouldn't post any factual statements about it, right?

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by parineum on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:48AM (#36596411)

If you read the rest of my comment, I don't actually have a problem with accusing people of war crimes. I think it's assinine to think one could do so and hope to continue to be paid by those people though. I would think that someone so ready to stand on this moral high ground wouldn't want that money but I guess when it actually comes to backing up her morals, she'll take the money instead.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by morelisp on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:52AM (#36596451)

Your critique only makes sense if she's working for the DoD, or negotiating those contracts for VMWare, or VMWare's business is significantly DoD contracts, none of which are true.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by parineum on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:59AM (#36596539)

Why does it have to be a significant part of VMWare's business? DoD money is flowing into her pockets and she's fighting to keep it that way.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by Apocryphon on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:09AM (#36596655)

The DoD also performs public services that ostensibly protect her life and liberty at some level, and doubtless she doesn't disagree with those functions. The amount one benefits from an entity one disagrees with can be variable, and debatable.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by fake-name on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:50AM (#36596434)

It's not an accusation.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by grimgoldgo on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:56AM (#36596502)

So, free speech doesn't extend to criticism of the government? People should lose their jobs because they said mean words on Twitter?

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by wiseowise on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:00AM (#36596552)

You’re free to say funny words on twitter, they’re free to fire you for it. Everyone wins.

Or you think you can be obnoxious clown without repercussions?

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by grimgoldgo on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:23AM (#36596823)

> Or you think you can be obnoxious clown without repercussions?

Seems to be working for Elon, tbh.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by subsistence234 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:08AM (#36597745)

If you're the owner of your company, the company won't fire you. You can still harm your company (and thereby yourself) by attacking your biggest customers on social media.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by coldtea on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @04:55AM (#36597658)

Who needs government censorship when you can outsource it?

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by khazhoux on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:15AM (#36596731)

She insulted one of her company's client. So yeah, you risk your job when you do that.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by pewpew2020 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:58AM (#36596526)

This is not about free speech, this is about company policy.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by coldtea on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @04:58AM (#36597677)

On his private twitter? While NOT posting about the company at all?

It was a customer of the company that got offended. Should he know every customer of the company? If the company has 1000s of customers, are they all off limits? Are you supposed to know who they are?

If you work for AT&T and an AT&T customer (of the millions it has) is a jerk or you have some political disagreement with their views, do you get to tweet about it on your personal twitter account? Should they be able to complain and get you fired?

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by 0cf8612b2e1e on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:17AM (#36596749)

Aren’t most a Americans at-will employees? You can be fired for being too ugly, let alone things which might damage a company relationship.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by morelisp on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @07:13AM (#36598681)

I don't think anyone is debating VMWare's legal right to fire her, just the wisdom of such a decision.

If I was a big tech company especially one trying to find people interested in working lower down the stack, I wouldn't go around pissing off leftist furries.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by clnq on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:48AM (#36596407)

It’s very clear that in the interest of business, those statements should not be made by an employee.

They are free to make these claims in a way that doesn’t damage the business. Like a second personal Twitter account.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by michaelt on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:20AM (#36596782)

> They are free to make these claims in a way that doesn’t damage the business. Like a second personal Twitter account.

Are they, though?

I mean, presumably they were posting from a personal account to begin with. Just how separate would a second account have to be - Is it enough to just say all opinions are their own, and only post on their own time? Could they use their own name? What about an online handle they'd used before, if a highly motivated doxxer could possibly identify their employer?

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by King-Aaron on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:52AM (#36596457)

I feel that it's kind of odd that you question this. Acting with professionalism isn't all that hard.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by morelisp on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:53AM (#36596468)

Neither is not bombing civilians, yet here we are.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by King-Aaron on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:55AM (#36596488)

Christ, don't cut yourself with that edge.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by wiseowise on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:01AM (#36596567)

Careful with leaps like that.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by weeeeelp on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:18AM (#36597806)

Not throwing a tantrum on Twitter is much easier than conducting any kind of military operation.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by Apocryphon on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:35AM (#36597944)

Someone oughta tell that to Prigozhin!

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by morelisp on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @07:21AM (#36598744)

I don't know about that, the smartest man in the world can't seem to stop posting while multiple distinct sets of complete idiots have managed to take over Afghanistan in the past two decades.

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Re:I Posted Myself Out of a Job by rewmie on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:57AM (#36596514)

> What other factual statements should you not be allowed to make about your employer's clients?

The author seemed perfectly fine with getting paid by their employer, but somehow felt morally justified to openly criticize the way they got their paycheck. It sounds like a very selective self-righteous position.

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