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Heh, still rules.

I am generally bullish on SpaceX, and I'm quick to forgive mistakes in flight - engines, avionics, control systems, etc - that shit is difficult.

But the pad failing is indefensible. Any engineer on staff should have been able to see that as a problem, and if they were over ruled by executives then they have serious problems ahead.

That's fair, but also, Twitter culture is definitely it's own culture, and I've largely seen quickly slammed out "fuck you"s to be emotionally equivalent to the rolling eyes emoji or the "wanking" hand gesture.

Heh, rules.

I do believe I'm at least attempting good faith here, I just do not find "fuck you" as a tweet, even levelled against me, to be particularly aggressive. Especially such a short message.

I'm likely more terminally online, more cynical, or more desensitized, but I see the two word "fuck you" to be such low effort that it doesn't even rise to the level of notice.

Like, an insult that specifically called out my behaviors or appearance or something and said fuck you? That feels meaningful, that's personal. But like, autocompleting two words flippantly into a tweet is like... Nothing?

> Of course it is an attack..

I mean the question I was raising was basically, "it's not clear this is an attack?" specifically because it's not "of course" to me.

Can you explain a bit more why it's obviously an attack?

She wasn't live tweeting her hr warning, her witness was. (Who was likely not a participant in the conversation).

> Or you think you can be obnoxious clown without repercussions?

Seems to be working for Elon, tbh.

I disagree, I think of tweets as nothing - air, fluff, someone expressing themselves without thinking. If someone tweets fuck you at me I'm not insulted, it's such a low effort post why would it ever even be parsed by me into anything meaningful?

It's like being insulted because someone farted at the hotel you were staying at. It's of so little consequence it cannot possibly be an insult.

It's incredible to see HN lose their minds because someone sent a two word tweet with a curse word in it, lol. A tweet.

An internal meeting is a much broader category than "a disciplinary meeting to issue a verbal warning from hr".

You and I roll in very different circles. I've had clients who told me to go fuck myself (and vice versa) without any real damage to our relationship.

A New Yorker using the expression is just frankly a different reading than a Washington DC type.

It's really, really not. Fuck you has a huge range of meaning. Carlin built several comedy bits around the word Fuck specifically because it was used colloquially so many ways.

Those meetings are not disciplinary meetings where your performance is being discussed. Everything in a disciplinary meeting is workplace conditions, full stop.

And if hr disagreed, they could have asked the guest to leave.

I have had a different life from you. I've been homeless, I've been wealthy, I've lived in many cultures and communities from suburbs to communes. I've worked tech I've worked as day labor moving soil by hand. I guarantee you that language (and especially the use of curse words), varies wildly.

It's rude, sure, but I still fail to see how that rises to the level of attack? What harm is intended or possible from a comment like that? Are all rude comments attacks?

What's your source for the mocking tone? Is lizthegrey known for tweeting about hr proceedings in a moving tone?

Also, what is tweeting if not "speaking publicly"?

And what are workplace conditions if not "how I am disciplined at work"?

There's a great Mine Monteiro talk about contracting titled, "Fuck you; Pay me", so yes, it's not unheard of at all.

So, free speech doesn't extend to criticism of the government? People should lose their jobs because they said mean words on Twitter?

Can women be brony's?

"Fuck you" has so many different tones, and is so ubiquitous. It can be playful, jocular, intense, deadly serious, all over the place. Fuck you is not, by default, a personal attack, imo.

It's also almost certainly culturally different on different coasts, online, in person, etc. A tweet is like, nothing.

You are allowed to discuss workplace conditions. That's like, protected concerted activity 101.

If the business was uncomfortable with their treatment of their employees being public, maybe that activity wasn't ethical.

My bad, misunderstood

Is saying "the blood never washes off" the hands of this DoD employee really a personal attack? I mean, it certainly seems like a consistent and reasonably widely held belief that military industrial complex jobs cost lives.

There's of course the opposite opinion too. I'm not interested in trying to demonstrate that one opinion is right or wrong, just that like, is this really an attack?

Oh I get it, I just think it's naive. I've read dune several times over the past 40 years, and the person I was in my youth would have agreed with you.

These days, not so much. I believe in building communities via mutual aid and support, and that if people have their basic needs meet they will produce incredible results. People want to do good, but are often too tired or too afraid or too burnt out to do it.

There are three primary antitrust laws, only one of them focuses on monopoly power in the way you describe. The Clayton and FTC acts are broader.

Consider a different oil. Flax makes a very pretty but very brittle seasoning. Canola works great IME.

Incredible, "do fascism" is your only solution?

If you are regularly burning food in steel or iron pans, maybe it's time to understand why? I cook in exclusively iron and steel cookware and I cannot remember the last time something got burned (excepting when I deliberately charred something.)

What's wrong with foreigners in stores? Why wouldn't white people like that? I'm white, I like seeing my neighbors in stores.

I've never seen someone get mad at Canada like that. Did Canada hurt you?