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Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by needle0 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:25AM (#35727741)
I can't be the only one who initially misread UAE as UAC.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by DeathArrow on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:31AM (#35727835)
You've played DOOM?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by someweirdperson on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:41AM (#35727978)
The headline is probably wrong. Most likely, Deimos is a well-known moon, only second to Luna. Maybe tied with Phobos.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Symmetry on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:54AM (#35728139)
I bet the Galilean Moons of Jupiter are known to more people but yeah, Mars's are relatively well known.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by nailer on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:16AM (#35729407)
A lot of people don’t realise this but there’s a new made by the Wolfenstein 3D people.

It has up and down AND walls can be at different angles!

You’re a space marine and fight demons.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by 867-5309 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:43PM (#35730810)
on Windows .. as Administrator
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by matthewdgreen on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:28AM (#35727798)
Another moon that stubbornly proves to be an actual moon, and not an ancient alien space station.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by doublerabbit on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:35AM (#35727899)
You sure it's not an alien space station disguised as a moon?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by ChrisMarshallNY on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:38AM (#35727941)
If you watched Moonfall, you learned that our own moon is actually an alien spaceship, and that only socially-maladjusted people can fix it.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by someweirdperson on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:44AM (#35728023)
It's the egg of an alien creature [0].

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_the_Moon

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by zw123456 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:00AM (#35728215)
I thought it's a control room for a reality TV show that we all star in.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Cyphase on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:57PM (#35731068)
That's true, man.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by zw123456 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @08:55PM (#35736360)
Nicely done!
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by the8472 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:13PM (#35733921)
Martian invasion fleet disguised as a moon. https://www.project-apollo.net/mos/mos215.html
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by unwind on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:34AM (#35727881)
Wow it's so small!! Only 12.4 km wide, that's miniscule! Earth's moon is like 3,400 km. No wonder they call it a "moonlet".
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mbreese on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:32AM (#35729644)
I figured it was called a moonlet because it didn’t have enough innate gravity to form a sphere shape. The pictures from the article have it looking quite bumpy.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by marcodiego on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:46AM (#35728039)
My favorite photo of Mars with one of its moons: https://web.archive.org/web/20150426080937/http://mentalland...
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Symmetry on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:53AM (#35728127)
Next step, set up the Cape Dread port!

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/appcapedread.ph...

EDIT: To summarize a big page, Demimos is relatively close to Low Earth Orbit in delta-v terms so it makes a convenient place to top up fuel tanks with volatiles extracted from the carbonaceous before heading further outwards. Maybe.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by ben_w on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:10AM (#35728330)
I was thinking more along the lines of a colony ship for sale, cheap…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_(video_game)

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by endisneigh on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:58AM (#35728187)
at only 12km wide, I wonder how it would feel walking along it.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by godshatter on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:09AM (#35728310)
It's escape velocity is about 5.5 m/s, you might be able to sprint fast enough to float away from it. I suspect walking on it would be an exercise in tedium as you took a step and waited while you floated back down to the surface.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by simonh on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:33AM (#35728738)
Falling a distance of 1 metre would take 25 seconds.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by AnimalMuppet on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:36PM (#35731719)
I used to have this dream where I was not quite flying, but if I jumped horizontally and then picked my feet up, it took a very long time to fall back down. That would be, for me, literally "living the dream".
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by gs17 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:25AM (#35728586)
Doom would have been a much weirder game if they had use realistic surface gravities.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by miohtama on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:56AM (#35729093)
That’s why you cannot jump in Doom. You would float off the sky box.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by ansible on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:58AM (#35729123)
> I suspect walking on it would be an exercise in tedium as you took a step and waited while you floated back down to the surface.

With a surface gravity of 0.003 m/s, even slight twitches by an astronaut would be enough to launch off the surface.

The flip side of that is a sample-return mission (as with OSIRIS-REx) could work with a similar mechanism and manuvering. Though obviously more delta-V is required to get into and get out of Mars orbit.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by kzrdude on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:14PM (#35731347)
Any mission visiting would be in danger of perturbing the moon's orbit by shooting off from it, to go home, maybe? I wonder how space agencies would think about that.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by ansible on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:49PM (#35735053)
I don't think that's a concern. The DART mission was able to alter the orbit of Dimorphos, but that asteroid is only 160 meters in diameter, much smaller than Deimos at 12.4km (mean diameter, it is oblong).

Mass wise, we're talking about Deimos at 1.5x10^15 kg, vs Dimorphos at 5x10^9 kg.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:55AM (#35740177)
I would expect astronauts landing on Deimos would wear some sort of jet pack that could push them back to the surface in case they accidentally float a bit too far away from it.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Jun8 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:10AM (#35728334)
Deimos looks so small w.r.t. Mars! Would Martians be able to enjoy solar eclipses? Answer : https://astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/34953/is-earth...
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by idlewords on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:22AM (#35728553)
A fun Deimos fact is that there exist stable prograde orbits around it, while there are no such orbits around its bigger brother Phobos. Because Phobos orbits closer to Mars, its gravitational sphere of influence is smaller than its physical size.

A nice paper on the different ways of orbiting the Martian moons and their trade-offs:

https://sci-hub.ru/https://doi.org/10.2514/6.2012-5067

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by franky47 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:28AM (#35729598)
Does that also mean you can't land on Phobos (and stay on the "ground" untethered)?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by rovingnothing29 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:52AM (#35729921)
So Phobos is space Australia.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by idlewords on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:06PM (#35730190)
You can land on Phobos just fine, and unlike on Deimos there's no danger of accidentally jumping off into space (Phobos escape velocity is about 41 km/h). All the 'sphere of influence' stuff means is that orbits are too perturbed by unevenness in the Martian gravitational field and can't stay stable.

Deimos is much smaller, but because it's further from Mars there is a region right above the surface (below 700 meters or so) where you could have stable orbits.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by kzrdude on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:37PM (#35730704)
Since both have gravitational acceleration below one thousandth of a g, I guess that counts as microgravity? Visiting those would be very interesting as an experience of gravity. I wonder if it would even be properly perceived as gravity, you'd have trouble orienting yourself and standing "up".
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by idlewords on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:53PM (#35730996)
It's a good question. There's been very little data on partial gravity, but what there is shows that a pronounced physical sense of "down" and "up" doesn't kick in until about 1/5g [1]. That said, a horizon and big rock underfoot are powerful visual cues, and it's anyone's guess what it would feel like to walk on a small celestial body like that. There's one good way to find out!

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S03043...

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by skykooler on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:05PM (#35731191)
Does that mean that on the Moon (1/6g) you would have trouble telling which way is "up" if you closed your eyes?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by antonvs on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:46PM (#35736646)
According to https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal... :

> "a gravitational field of about 0.15 g is necessary to provide effective orientation information"

That's slightly less than lunar gravity (0.165 g). But, it's about the minimum amount needed to be able to use gravity to detect orientation, and is not necessarily enough to detect it reliably. That's thought to be one reason astronauts fell so often on the moon, although there were certainly other factors as well.

The paper also observes:

> Benson [30] showed that 0.22 g was not adequate to provide a vertical reference during experiments in the International Microgravity Laboratory (IML-1) on board Spacelab and Clément et al. [31] showed that in microgravity, 0.5 g provided by a centrifuge was enough to produce a perceived tilt of 90°. These values suggest that indeed it is likely to be the case that even after adaptation to a microgravity environment, forces in excess of 0.15–0.3 g are required to provide a behaviourally useful gravitational reference.

To answer your question, since vision is an important part of our orientation mechanism (also analyzed in the linked paper), it's likely that astronauts on the moon would have more difficulty with their eyes closed. Not necessarily that they'd have no sense of up at all, but that it wouldn't necessarily be accurate, so if they tried to walk with their eyes closed, they'd be much more likely to fall.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by idlewords on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:44PM (#35736960)
It's possible. There seems to be a lot of individual variability around this threshold, although as usual the problem is a severe lack of data on the effects of partial gravity on anything.

Alan Shephard and Ed Mitchell reported that the 7 degree tilt of their lunar module interfered with their sleep, which suggests it was noticeable. But it would be hard to point to something in their cabin arrangements that didn't interfere with sleep.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Pxtl on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:15PM (#35735244)
One unfortunate downside of tech limitations in the show The Expanse is that there's no good way to do low-g. Part of the first season is set on belter dwarf planets where the gravity would've been under 5% G.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by outworlder on Thursday April 27, 2023 @08:22PM (#35736143)
They do show the coriolis effects on Eros(https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Coriolis_Effect). But yes, for the most part we should see more awkward movement at such low g. Both Eros and Ceres are at 0.3g
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Pxtl on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:27PM (#35736881)
Oh I didn't even realize they spun the asteroids for gravity. I'd assumed they were relying on the natural gravity, which would have no Coriolis but would also mean only 0.03G on Ceres and even less on Eros.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by khedoros1 on Friday April 28, 2023 @02:32AM (#35738151)
In the books especially, they talk about going "up" into the cheaper, lower-gravity areas, or "down" to the docks, where outsiders and tourists were more likely to be. The books also have more to say about cladding around Ceres and Eros so that they wouldn't fly apart when spun, and Tycho Station's part in engineering that.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:40AM (#35740067)
I just wanted to ask about that: if they spun them for gravity, wouldn't they fly apart? Because you'd have a meaningful amount of gravity pulling the rocky surface away from the asteroid.

But even cladding the surface to keep it together, you're talking about many tons and tons of rock you suddenly need to keep together. At that point, why not make a space habitat completely separate from the asteroid? It seems silly to put your base on the gravity of an asteroid and then try to undo the gravity of that asteroid.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by idlewords on Friday April 28, 2023 @09:48AM (#35741245)
As long as a chunk of rock is in one piece (rather than a pile of rubble) it's not going to get pulled apart by a modest amount of gravity. Look at any cliff overhang (or the underside of any boulder) for proof. So the trick is just to pick an asteroid that is not a rubble pile.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @10:03AM (#35741382)
Look at cliff erosion. Look at moons and asteroids being pulled apart just by differences in gravity between its different sides. I strongly doubt any asteroid of meaningful size is going to be strong enough to withstand meaningful rotational gravity.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by bbarnett on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:46PM (#35731867)
and unlike on Deimos there's no danger of accidentally jumping off into space (Phobos escape velocity is about 41 km/h)

That, sir, sounds like a challenge! I accept!

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by marmakoide on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:37PM (#35734950)
So a big spring would be enough to send one out from Phobos, that's neat. You can literally boink people to space.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by caf on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:06PM (#35736761)
If it were close enough that Mars pulling you away from Phobos was strong than Phobos pulling you towards it, Phobos also couldn't hold itself together - it would crumble into a ring.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:49AM (#35740129)
If we're sharing fun facts: apparently it takes the same amount of delta-V to travel to the surface of Deimos as it does to the surface of the Moon. Because of the Moon's much larger gravity.

There have been people playing with the possibility of using it as a refuelling station, because it's thought to contain a lot of water.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by JKCalhoun on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:28AM (#35728652)
Somewhere I read (was it Clarke?, Asimov? ... who knows) that you could pitch a baseball on the surface of Deimos, wait some number of hours (minutes?) and it would have orbited and returned from the opposite direction, you could then hit the ball with a bat and some time later catch it on the re-orbit and declare yourself out.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Symmetry on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:45AM (#35729818)
Escape velocity is just around 5 m/2 so don't pitch it too fast or it won't come back! Even a Little League pitcher should be able to throw a ball at 20 m/s or so.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by euroderf on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:05PM (#35730174)
It should be possible to jump up off the surface at this speed too eh
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by jandrese on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:58PM (#35731089)
Probably difficult to do it as a high jump, but a person on a bike hitting a small ramp could do it no problem, assuming you could even find enough traction to get going fast enough in such light gravity.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by dsfyu404ed on Thursday April 27, 2023 @03:43PM (#35733538)
Skateboard and fire extinguisher.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by The_Colonel on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:27PM (#35734065)
No need for skateboard in that gravity.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by chmod775 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @08:15PM (#35736096)
If you can jump around 128cm high on earth (measured at your center of mass), you can accelerate yourself to more than 5m/s upwards.

Most healthy adults should be able to do that, especially with a running start. It's about as much as you need to do to get a passing grade in PE at age 16 in most places. Also in this hypothetical you don't have to fight much gravity while accelerating - only inertia.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mr_toad on Thursday April 27, 2023 @08:33PM (#35736213)
Getting a running start would be a problem when each step launches you into the “air”.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by AnimalMuppet on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:33PM (#35731661)
Pretty sure I can still do 100 m in less than 20 seconds, so...

(Except, as others have said, I wouldn't have the traction to accelerate.)

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by dmoy on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:18PM (#35730379)
I think it was Carl Sagan and Phobos. Not Deimos.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by sidewndr46 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @11:54AM (#35729957)
This is interesting. From what I understand Russia has launched multiple probes to the Martian moons and they all have failed. Amazingly, they still are planning at some point in the near future to launch the same Soviet-era designed probe again.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by euroderf on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:04PM (#35730156)
Mars was eating US probes too. If you go thru archives you'll find cartoons of Mars eating everything thrown at it.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by rebolek on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:08PM (#35734632)
And by near future they mean when we'll have nuclear fusion, which will be in near future too. I've been reading about their plans for 30+ years.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by pdpi on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:24PM (#35730484)
It's sort of amusing to see Deimos described as "little-known". I grew up playing Doom, so I learned about Mars's moons Phobos and Deimos way earlier than I did any of the other, better known moons in the solar system.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by bigbillheck on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:00PM (#35731132)
Sounds like you missed a big one, maybe you should have gone outside a little more.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by dylan604 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:05PM (#35731189)
So, you know the name of the moon and what planet it orbits.

Do you think we have as much understanding of Deimos as our own moon? Do you think we have as much understanding of this particular moon that never really had any close up analysis performed on it as much as any of the better known moons in the solar system where we've actually sent probes to fly-by/orbit and observe?

In other words, little-known is not referring to do people know the name or not

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by OkayPhysicist on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:20PM (#35731445)
"little-known" as an adjective, in American English, is used exclusively when talking about people's awareness of the existence of a thing. With the title's phrasing, it literally does refer to people knowing the name or not.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by Simran-B on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:12PM (#35734675)
Wasn't The Expanse popular in the US, though? Deimos was destroyed by UN forces during the Earth-Mars conflict in the sci-fi series.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by JustSomeNobody on Thursday April 27, 2023 @09:30PM (#35736558)
Toxic.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by ammanley on Thursday April 27, 2023 @02:32PM (#35732584)
You got some strangely heated responses to this, but I just wanted to say I share your boat. Its nice to see real pics as an adult now of it all. Also, my trip to Phobos and Deimos was, you could say, hellish. 11/10, would rip and tear again.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by dllthomas on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:55PM (#35735089)
It's a nice boat.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by kitsunesoba on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:33PM (#35734136)
I think the first I heard of it was in another game, Ambrosia Software's top-down scroller Deimos Rising, which came bundled with my Pixar lamp iMac back in the early 2000s.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by EamonnMR on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:33PM (#35735368)
The soundtrack to that game really stuck with me, as it was installed on the eMacs in our classroom so we played it during indoor recess. Since the addons page is long gone, I threw the soundtrack up on the internet archive.[1] Ben Spees, who did the Soundtrack went on to found the math rock band Mercury Tree.[2]

I mostly remember Ambrosia for the Escape Velocity series though, especially Nova.

1: https://archive.org/details/deimos_rising_soundtrack

2: https://themercurytree.bandcamp.com/

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by hammyhavoc on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:40PM (#35734222)
I'm a Zone of the Enders nerd, so know about it through that too.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by sjrd on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:38PM (#35734953)
Ah ah, similar experience here as well, though through the board game Terraforming Mars.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:29AM (#35739974)
According to the boardgame High Frontier, Deimos contains a lot of water, and yet the Deimos Down card in Terraforming Mars does not place an ocean tile. So which is it? Why are different boardgames so inconsistent about Deimos?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by EamonnMR on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:36PM (#35735389)
In Marathon it was converted into the titular generation ship and launched towards Tau Ceti. But I suppose you could call Marathon little known too...
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by temp0826 on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:56PM (#35735553)
This was my first thought too as I grew up with the game.

On the subject, for a little blast from the past...the Marathon's Story website is still around-

https://marathon.bungie.org/story/

28 years old, a little noteworthy!

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by EamonnMR on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:43PM (#35736953)
I remember binging that over ten years ago... glad it's still around.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by bookofjoe on Thursday April 27, 2023 @12:27PM (#35730537)
The first person to set foot on Deimos is alive right now (but most likely NOT reading this).
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by anigbrowl on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:33PM (#35735365)
Is there any reason to try to land on such a small body, whose gravity is probably negligible?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by bookofjoe on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:15PM (#35736819)
Because it's there
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by anigbrowl on Thursday April 27, 2023 @10:19PM (#35736836)
I mean so's Mars. I'm not sure what the incentive to land on Deimos and deal with the microgravity is, vs just landing on the planet itself where you at least have some atmosphere.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:48AM (#35740120)
One fun thing about Deimos is that apparently it takes the same amount of delta-V to travel to the surface of Deimos as it does to the surface of the Moon. Because of the Moon's much larger gravity.

There have been people playing with the idea of using it as a refuelling station, because it's thought to contain a lot of water.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by hooverd on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:13PM (#35731323)
Alright, time to hollow that bad boy out and send it to Tau Ceti.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mikeInAlaska on Thursday April 27, 2023 @01:31PM (#35731639)
I remember sitting on my front deck with my telescope watching Mars for a couple hours. The local atmosphere settled and the planetary features and colors were amazing. After a while I kept noticing a speck appearing and disappearing off the edge of Mars. After an hour it had definitely moved substantially. I ran in and checked my observatory software and it was Deimos !! Imagine that, a 7.7 mile diameter object seen visually from 43 million miles away.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by rendall on Thursday April 27, 2023 @02:17PM (#35732367)
Exploring the moons of Mars is all fun and games until you invent teleportation and unleash demons from another dimension!
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by PicassoCTs on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:19PM (#35733981)
Was it Deimos or Phobos, which could be decelerated to crash into mars with todays tech?
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by henriquez on Thursday April 27, 2023 @05:41PM (#35734992)
Phobos is already on a doomed orbit, at only 10,000km above the surface it is very low and slightly decaying all the time. Eventually Phobos will be ripped apart by tidal forces in Mars’ atmosphere and (at least partially) crash into the planet.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by h2odragon on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:28PM (#35735328)
"eventually" the sun will expand and make the rest of mars valuable beachfront property again.

Time to start selling real estate there. Get in before the ground floor, imagine the profits! All the cool pipples are doing it, you wouldn't want to miss out.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by outworlder on Thursday April 27, 2023 @08:26PM (#35736169)
I just checked and the Roche Limit is 5,470km for Phobos.

Will still take a few million years.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by keybuk on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:32PM (#35735361)
We don't use that moon anyway
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mcv on Friday April 28, 2023 @07:57AM (#35740198)
In the boardgame Terraforming Mars, you can do that with Deimos. In the game, it would increase the temperature of Mars by a couple of degrees and destroy some of an opponent's plants.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by dustfinger on Thursday April 27, 2023 @04:29PM (#35734082)
Both my kids can't stop laughing because they think Deimos looks like a person's bottom - LOL!
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by geuis on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:03PM (#35735149)
Has anyone found a high res version of this image of Deimos against Mars in the background? https://media.nature.com/lw767/magazine-assets/d41586-023-01...

Checked the mission site but they haven't updated their images page in quite a while.

Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by mzs on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:40PM (#35735420)
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by geuis on Thursday April 27, 2023 @07:04PM (#35735623)
You are amazing and I hope you have a great day!
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by geuis on Thursday April 27, 2023 @06:21PM (#35735284)
Here's the scientific findings video from 2 days ago from the European Geosciences Union conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtpGR-D7aTo
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by reassembled on Friday April 28, 2023 @06:59AM (#35739733)
Is there anything special about the camera focusing tech required to capture that image of Deimos? It looks extremely well focused.
Re:First up-close images of Mars’s little-known moon Deimos by kjs3 on Friday April 28, 2023 @11:28AM (#35742443)
This is a real credit to the UAE scientists and engineers. Getting to Mars and being able to do something useful has historically been a very tough problem.