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Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by ck2 on Saturday April 01, 2023 @10:20PM (#35406476)
Cars are starting to have a sticker price over $50,000 and most people born today will never be able to afford to own a home in the US

I don't think going to "fake space" for a minute is really going to be interesting by the end of the decade.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by JKCalhoun on Saturday April 01, 2023 @11:09PM (#35406765)
It does feel like we may be entering an era that is more akin to the way I remember the 1970's being. "White label" beer anyone?
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by Kiro on Sunday April 02, 2023 @05:13AM (#35408636)
> "White label" beer anyone?

What is this referring to?

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by JKCalhoun on Sunday April 02, 2023 @08:07AM (#35409710)
Looks like "generic beer" would have been a more Googleable name. "White label" is what we called it. https://winning-homebrew.com/generic-beer.html
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by darknavi on Saturday April 01, 2023 @11:39PM (#35406938)
> I don't think going to "fake space" for a minute is really going to be interesting by the end of the decade.

Not sure what you're referring to as "fake" here. LEO? Is the ISS fake space? If Starship fully succeeds it should make trips to and from the Moon and Mars.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by jacoblambda on Sunday April 02, 2023 @01:43AM (#35407555)
I think they are referring to the sub-LEO suborbital hops that are being advertised as "a trip to space". Just high enough to clearly see the famous "blue marble" but nowhere close to being able to sustain an orbit or actually classify as being "in space".
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by jve on Sunday April 02, 2023 @02:35AM (#35407791)
Its about the speed and not so much the height https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by jacoblambda on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:56PM (#35496421)
Well kind of but speed isn't a really useful metric until you have a circular orbit.

Knowing speed won't be able to tell you whether you are suborbital (but it will tell you if you are on an escape orbit). However knowing your periapsis (elevation at lowest point in orbit) will tell you whether you are suborbital. It's only at the point where your periapsis is close to your apoapsis that speed is actually useful.

Any metric other than periapsis will require 2 components to describe that the orbit isn't suborbital. Periapsis only gets away with it by implying that the second component is at least as high up as it is (apoapsis is always higher). The other useful metric would be velocity (speed + direction) but while that's something you can easily and immediately measure, periapsis & apoapsis (aka height) are far easier to visualize.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by hparadiz on Sunday April 02, 2023 @12:19AM (#35407127)
Cost of housing is a policy problem that can be fixed.
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by bombcar on Sunday April 02, 2023 @02:29AM (#35407759)
It's moderately amusing to me that people think we'll get to a place where all housing is completely unaffordable.
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by SyzygistSix on Sunday April 02, 2023 @04:52PM (#35415075)
People seem willing enough to allow enough lack of housing that thousands are needlessly homeless now. What's a few hundred thousands more? So many people already don't consider anyone to be real people once they are homeless.
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by tjpnz on Sunday April 02, 2023 @01:36AM (#35407519)
>I don't think going to "fake space" for a minute is really going to be interesting by the end of the decade.

That applies to the suborbital flights conducted by Blue Origin and Virgin today, but not Starship which is orbital class.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by mlindner on Sunday April 02, 2023 @03:34AM (#35408132)
I think you're slightly confused as nothing about this is "fake space". This is proper orbital space, the same as any common astronaut does currently.
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by midasuni on Sunday April 02, 2023 @05:24AM (#35408694)
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/203-W-Gordon-St-Quitman-G...

$180k for a massive house (by U.K. standards). Seems like a bargain

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2937-Queen-Rd-Clendenin-W...

That’s the cost of a typical deposit in the U.K, doesn’t look rundown or anything.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by geeB on Sunday April 02, 2023 @06:37AM (#35409127)
There usually are reasons for real estate prices that you can’t know from basic stats.

Also about the point of being unaffordable, your first listing basically doubled since the last sale a few years ago, so in relative terms things aren’t looking too good. The second one’s estimate seems to have gone down recently, which tbh in this environment makes me think there is something very wrong with the house or the area and I would research the crap out of it before even considering looking at it.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by midasuni on Sunday April 02, 2023 @07:42AM (#35409516)
There are thousands of homes in this price range on Zillow across the country.

Hell is most of the US you could buy a trailer and some land, bit of solar and batteries, build out a cesspit and start building something piece by piece.

Of course you can’t be 20 minutes from Times Square if you do that. But 100 million people want to live in Manhattan, and they can’t all do

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by tiedieconderoga on Sunday April 02, 2023 @10:39AM (#35410945)
If you are used to U.K. standards, living in Quitman GA might be a bit of a shock.

Why not take a vacation there? Looks like there's a regional airport in Thomasville only a 30-minute drive away, but it looks like it's too small to serve passenger planes. You might need to fly into Jacksonville FL, and drive ~2 hours from there.