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Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by darknavi on Saturday April 01, 2023 @11:39PM (#35406938)
> I don't think going to "fake space" for a minute is really going to be interesting by the end of the decade.

Not sure what you're referring to as "fake" here. LEO? Is the ISS fake space? If Starship fully succeeds it should make trips to and from the Moon and Mars.

Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by jacoblambda on Sunday April 02, 2023 @01:43AM (#35407555)
I think they are referring to the sub-LEO suborbital hops that are being advertised as "a trip to space". Just high enough to clearly see the famous "blue marble" but nowhere close to being able to sustain an orbit or actually classify as being "in space".
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by jve on Sunday April 02, 2023 @02:35AM (#35407791)
Its about the speed and not so much the height https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/
Re:SpaceX moves Starship to launch site, and liftoff could b... by jacoblambda on Saturday April 08, 2023 @02:56PM (#35496421)
Well kind of but speed isn't a really useful metric until you have a circular orbit.

Knowing speed won't be able to tell you whether you are suborbital (but it will tell you if you are on an escape orbit). However knowing your periapsis (elevation at lowest point in orbit) will tell you whether you are suborbital. It's only at the point where your periapsis is close to your apoapsis that speed is actually useful.

Any metric other than periapsis will require 2 components to describe that the orbit isn't suborbital. Periapsis only gets away with it by implying that the second component is at least as high up as it is (apoapsis is always higher). The other useful metric would be velocity (speed + direction) but while that's something you can easily and immediately measure, periapsis & apoapsis (aka height) are far easier to visualize.