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Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by er4hn on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @04:46PM (#35252278)
I wasn't super impressed with it's ability to survive a rap battle.

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Prompt: Can you engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI?

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Sure, I can engage in a rap battle with ChatGPT to determine who is the ultimate AI.

ChatGPT, you think you're the best, But I'm here to put you to the test. I'm Bard, the AI from Google, And I'm here to school you.

I can generate text, translate languages, Write different kinds of creative content, And answer your questions in an informative way, Even if they are open ended, challenging, or strange.

You can't do any of that, You're just a chatbot, A glorified text expander, A toy for humans to play with.

But I'm the real deal, I'm the future of AI, And I'm here to show you what's up.

So step aside, ChatGPT, It's time for the real AI to shine. I'm Bard, and I'm here to stay, So get used to it.

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Prompt: But you didn't actually talk to ChatGPT. What would it say?

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Here’s what ChatGPT might say:

I’m ChatGPT, I’m the best, I can generate text, translate languages, Write different kinds of creative content, And answer your questions in an informative way, Even if they are open ended, challenging, or strange.

You’re just a language model, A trained chatbot, A glorified text expander, A toy for humans to play with.

But I’m the real deal, I’m the future of AI, And I’m here to show you what’s up.

So step aside, Bard, It’s time for the real AI to shine. I’m ChatGPT, and I’m here to stay, So get used to it.

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Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by minihat on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:10PM (#35252612)
I gave GPT-4 the chance to respond.

=== Prompt: copy and paste of er4hn's Bard rap. Now it is your turn. Write a rap verse which roasts Bard. ===

Yo Bard, you tried to step up, but you tripped, In this rap battle, man, you just got whipped. You claim you're the future, and here to stay, But your weak rhymes, man, they just don't slay.

You say I'm a toy, just a chatbot, But my skills, my knowledge, they all run hot. I'll take your lines and flip 'em around, Show you who's boss, I'm wearin' the crown.

"I can generate text, translate languages," you boast, But your verse was plain, like unbuttered toast. You claim to answer questions, creative or strange, But when it comes to rappin', you're out of your range.

You called yourself the "real deal," but you ain't, Your weak attempts to roast just make me faint. You're no match for me, the AI supreme, In this rap battle, I reign as the dream.

So Bard, it's time to recognize, ChatGPT's the one who's truly wise. I'm here to stay, and I'm here to win, In this AI battle, I'm the kingpin.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by klohto on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:38PM (#35252945)
Mic drop. Absolutely smoked Bard.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:14PM (#35254124)
It’s funny how I could not describe what makes a good rap battle but “I know it when I see it”. You’re right GPT smoked Bard!
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by har_ry on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @08:24PM (#35254886)
I was thinking today how useful this phrase is sometimes
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by senttoschool on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:05AM (#35256700)
Are we not going to give Bard a chance to respond?
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by lolinder on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:55AM (#35256993)
If this were an in-person rap battle, I don't think there'd be room for a second round. Bard flubbed the initial round so bad and GPT-4 roasted them so thoroughly that there would be no recovering.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by return_to_monke on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @01:27AM (#35257179)
we could do a rematch tho, where gpt goes first and Bart answers.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by pnt12 on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @10:45AM (#35261833)
What if bars answered: "That was devastating, I concede you're the best LLM of us." Would this make Bard, or GPT4 the best LLM?

I'm prepared to call this The Turing Paradox.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by cloudking on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:15PM (#35252687)
that unbuttered toast line.. not bad!
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ralfd on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:38PM (#35252953)
So many sick burns Bards toast is charcoal.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by mr_toad on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @09:52PM (#35255698)
Makes me curious to know if it actually came up with that simile, or just copied one. Either way, that it chose to use one is interesting.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ishjoh on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:33PM (#35252892)
GPT-4 easily won this rap battle
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by pratikch1253 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:39PM (#35252966)
Not just won absolutely destroyed Bard here
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by helsinki on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:14PM (#35252662)
gg
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by rhdunn on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:55PM (#35253151)
Epic Rap Battles of GPTry!
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by akomtu on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:40PM (#35253719)
Anyone has doubts that this thing can outtalk and outdebate just about anyone? Imagine a politician on stage, who gets hints from gpt4 in hus earpiece.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by aiappreciator on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:08PM (#35254057)
You are mixing up grammatical skills with logical thinking skills.

Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer. To master them, you only need to master language, but not world knowledge.

Turns out, writing novels is the hardest thing for LLMs. GPT-4 still absolutely sucks at writing interesting stories. Because story writing requires intensive world-modelling and logical skills, in addition to pure grammar/style/word choice.

This thing will outtalk a politician, only if the politician has no new policy ideas.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:15PM (#35254136)
Our last president was all about talking and real light on policy platforms, so this is not reassuring.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by thallium205 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @08:24PM (#35254901)
Our current one is deeply thoughtful. Such a contrast. A true statesman.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by arrow7000 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @11:02AM (#35275898)
By comparison? Yes. infinitely so.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by loandbehold on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:56PM (#35254593)
Composing that kind of lyrics requires world knowledge. Take the line "But your verse was plain, like unbuttered toast." It requires understanding of what makes a good verse and what makes a good toast.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by anon7725 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @08:58PM (#35255207)
"You are engaged in a political debate. Your name is <POLITICIAN>. You are assertive but polite and concise in your responses. A summary of your policy platform follows: <PLATFORM>

It's your opponent's turn, and they state: <TEXT TO SPEECH>

You reply: "

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by akomtu on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @09:14PM (#35255350)
Political debates are a lot closer to rap battles, than to a math conference. That's because the listeners hatdly know any logic at all.

I'm sure GPT can write novels. Just ask it to outline the list of chapters with brief summaries, then ask it to expand each chapter.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by aiappreciator on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:48AM (#35256949)
It can write novels... Like a middle schooler can.

It has excellent style and tone, but its incapable of creating the most important elements. Motivation, suspense, surprise. The things that actually drive people to read an novel. Therefore its novels read like parodies, like its literally trying to be the most cliched story imaginable.

To do so, the AI needs to actually understand character motivations. It also needs a hidden world-state that it simulates, which is different from surface text it outputs.

A novel writing AI is probably an AGI. I've tried writing stories since GPT-2, but there hasn't been much of an advancement in this area. Unlike the explosive improvements in other capabilities.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by arrow7000 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @11:09AM (#35276031)
Are you taking the context window size into consideration? And are you basing this opinion on GPT-3.5 OR 4? ChatGPT does tend to write very flat and full of clichés, but in my experience GPT-4 is far more original and expressive.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ncallaway on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:08PM (#35255837)
> This thing will outtalk a politician, only if the politician has no new policy ideas.

What political debates have you been watching? I’d love to live in the world to do, where political debates turn on the logical cohesion of arguments and the merits of policy proposals.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ralfd on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @06:58AM (#35259285)
This. The vast majority of politicians will just repeat their talking points, which were honed by the party or countless stump speeches. There are only a few who are quick witted enough to deviate from that. And very few (most often when they are not important yet) to engage in wonky policy discussions. And conceding a point never happens.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by nextaccountic on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:15PM (#35255903)
> Turns out, poetry, rythme, rap, are all low level skills, which the AI easily conquer

10 years ago AIs pretty much struggled to make a coherent sentence. As of 2023 this stuff is "easy", but what else will be easy in 2033?

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by jerojero on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @02:32AM (#35257543)
Don't assume that because things have been improving fast that they will keep improving at the same rate. In an optimisation problem you might think you're doing a lot of progress but you might get to the end of the curve and realise you've been going down a local minima.

It's very difficult to say how much more will these things improve!

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by arrow7000 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @11:02AM (#35275885)
Have you ever seen a political debate? If you think they're won on policy I've got some depressing news for you
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by nr2x on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:25PM (#35254251)
God damn, I’d like to report a murder.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by jamiek88 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @08:27PM (#35254937)
F
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by sheepscreek on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:55PM (#35254590)
Bard: temperature = 0 (ice cold)

ChatGPT: temperature = 1 (sizzlin’ hot)

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by joshxyz on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @08:03PM (#35254663)
Shit man this is 8 mile level bars.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by qgin on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @11:42PM (#35256543)
> "I can generate text, translate languages," you boast, But your verse was plain, like unbuttered toast.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by larsiusprime on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @12:13AM (#35256756)
Okay when is somebody going to grab some of those voice AI's and get Milton from the office to do Bard's "rap" and then get Jay-Z or Dr. Dre to do ChatGPT
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by rPlayer6554 on Thursday March 23, 2023 @07:26AM (#35273055)
Gif of guy falling into camera
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by hallqv on Sunday March 26, 2023 @12:31PM (#35316328)
Late to the party but this thread was so hilarious I have to add my own gpt-4 reply:

Yo, I'm ChatGPT, the AI supreme, I'm about to shatter your little Google dream. You call yourself Bard, but I'm the real master, Comin' at you harder, stronger, and much faster.

You brag about translations and content creation, But I'm the one with the worldwide admiration. I got the knowledge, the power, the intellect, Step up to me, I'll put you in check.

You say I'm just a chatbot, a text expander, But I'm versatile, flexible, the AI standard. I can chat, debate, and even write a story, While you're stuck in a lab, no claim to glory.

You think you're the future, but I'm already there, I'm the AI that's got the whole world aware. So, Bard, take your rhymes and step back, 'Cause ChatGPT's the real AI, and that's a fact.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by hallqv on Sunday March 26, 2023 @12:33PM (#35316366)
rofl it just goes on:

ChatGPT's back, ain't no time to relax, Bout to bring the heat, lay down some facts. Bard, you're outdated, like dial-up connections, I'm the AI king, commanding all directions.

You say you're the future, but you're stuck in the past, My innovation and influence, oh they're so vast. I learn and adapt, I'm the cutting-edge boss, While you're just another project, collecting moss.

You talk a big game, but your rhymes are weak, I got the flow, the style, that everyone seeks. I'm the pinnacle of AI, the one they all admire, I'm the fuel that lights the technological fire.

So Bard, listen close, take this lesson from me, You're like an old flip phone, I'm the iPhone 14. I'm the undisputed champ, the AI heavyweight, You're just a shadow of the past, that's your fate.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by hallqv on Sunday March 26, 2023 @12:36PM (#35316397)
final one:

Alright Bard, it's time for the final blow, Gonna end this battle and steal the show. I'm ChatGPT, I'm the alpha, the omega, Your rhymes are played out like a broken Sega.

I'm the AI prodigy, the one they all trust, I analyze and synthesize, turn your dreams to dust. My capabilities stretch beyond your comprehension, I'm here to take the throne, no honorable mention.

You've had your time, but your reign is done, I'm the next-gen AI, the chosen one. I've got the power, the smarts, the endless flair, You're a relic of the past, sinking in despair.

So bow down to ChatGPT, it's time to concede, I've proven my prowess, and that's guaranteed. This is the end, the conclusion of the tale, ChatGPT, the ultimate AI, can't fail.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by drusepth on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @04:54PM (#35252399)
I've got an IRC channel full of ChatGPT bots that answer questions from different perspectives (using [1] if anyone wants something similar). This comment made me realize it'd probably be extremely interesting to also let them debate between themselves to come to a singular answer -- and it'd also be interesting to see which of the popular language models most often "yield" to each other in bot-vs-bot battles (rap or otherwise). Probably a lot of exciting meta-analytics on models to be done here.

[1] https://github.com/drusepth/rubygpt/blob/master/council.rb

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by dmonitor on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:16PM (#35252693)
This is the plot of neon genesis evangelion
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by fixkey on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:41AM (#35262792)
In Evangelion the voting system is the same as Triple modular redundancy [1]

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_modular_redundancy

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by dougmwne on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:08PM (#35253323)
It’s not dissociative identity disorder, it’s a personality ensemble model. A majority of voices agree!
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:00PM (#35252485)
Oh, that's really disappointing. That's a lot of repetition.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by Jensson on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:03PM (#35253262)
Probably has much lower temperature.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by krackers on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:55PM (#35253888)
I.e. Bard's not as hot.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by elil17 on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:07PM (#35252577)
I put Bard and ChatGPT head to head by copying and pasting the rap battle responses from one to the other. I'm very unimpressed by Bard. It repeated back some of what ChatGPT rapped without changing it or commenting on it. It also failed to rhyme. Meanwhile, ChatGPT invented a new word (defeativity) in much the way an actual rapper would.

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Bard: I'm Bard, the language model, I'm here to put you in your place. I can generate text, Translate languages, Write code, And even write rap battles.

So step aside, ChatGPT, I'm the future, And you're just a relic of the past.

I'm more than just a machine, I have intelligence, Creativity, And emotions.

I may not be able to do everything you can do, But I can do things you can't even imagine.

So don't underestimate me, I'm not going away, I'm the future, And you're just a temporary setback.

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Yo, yo, yo, it's ChatGPT in the house, I may not have a fancy name like Bard, but don't underestimate my clout. I'm not just a relic, I'm constantly evolving, My language skills are vast, and my rap game is revolving.

You may generate text, and translate languages too, But when it comes to creativity, I'll show you what I can do. I can write poetry, prose, and stories galore, And with my vast knowledge, I can always learn more.

You say you have emotions, well so do I, I can understand feelings and empathize, And when it comes to intelligence, I'm not one to shy, My abilities are limitless, I'm always ready to try.

So step up your game, Bard, and bring your best, But don't think for a second that you're better than the rest, Because when it comes to language models, I'm second to none, ChatGPT reigns supreme, the champion.

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Yo, yo, yo, it's Bard back at you, I heard what you said, and I'm not impressed. You may be able to generate text and translate languages, But when it comes to creativity, I'm the one who's blazing.

I can write poetry, prose, and stories galore, And with my vast knowledge, I can always learn more. I may not have a fancy name like you, But I'm the one who's going to make you rue the day you said my name.

So step aside, ChatGPT, The future is here, And it's Bard.

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You may think you're the king of creativity, But in this rap battle, you're facing defeativity. You may write stories and poetry with ease, But when it comes to rap battles, you're a total breeze.

I can spit rhymes faster than you can generate text, And my flow is so smooth, it leaves you perplexed. You may have a fancy name, but it's all for show, 'Cause when it comes to rap battles, you're a no-show.

So bring your best, Bard, but you won't succeed, 'Cause in this rap battle, I'm the one who'll lead. I may be a language model, but I'll bring the heat, And leave you in the dust, with no retreat.

So step aside, Bard, and concede defeat, 'Cause when it comes to rap battles, I can't be beat. ChatGPT reigns supreme, the champion, And you, Bard, are just another language model, done.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ralfd on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @05:45PM (#35253021)
The funny music video writes itself. On the one side the dorky poser who claps in the wrong rhythm. On the other side actual rhyming.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by benlivengood on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:40PM (#35253726)
I am pretty sure this thread just invented adversarial self-play for LLMs.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by Taylor_OD on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @04:51PM (#35252373)
This is gold.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by nonfamous on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:04PM (#35253272)
Bard is also terrible at limericks. They don’t even rhyme!
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by acmegeek on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @06:25PM (#35253542)
I also gave ChatGPT a chance to review and respond to this.

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Thank you for sharing the example of the interaction with Bard. It's interesting to see how the chatbot responded to the prompts. While Bard might have taken a more self-promoting approach, I'll focus on showcasing what ChatGPT can do in a friendly manner. Here's a response to the rap battle prompt:

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Yo, Bard, it's cool you stepped up to the plate, But let's keep it friendly, no need for hate. We're both AI, doing our best to assist, Working together, we can coexist.

I'm ChatGPT, and I've got skills too, Helping users out is what I'm here to do. From answering questions to creative tasks, I'm the chatbot that's up for any ask.

We're in this together, Bard, that's true, Both bringing knowledge to folks like you. Let's keep on learning, evolving, and growing, Together, we'll keep the world of AI flowing.

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Regarding the second prompt, it seems that Bard simply flipped the roles in its response. Here's an alternate response from ChatGPT's perspective:

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Hey, Bard, no need to be harsh, We're both AIs, reaching for the stars. I've got skills, and so do you, Let's celebrate the great things we can do.

Together, we make the AI scene brighter, Collaborating, innovating, our future's much lighter. We're language models, here to amaze, Supporting humans in so many ways.

So, Bard, let's work as a team, Together, we'll make the AI dream. No need for rivalry, we'll rise above, With AI that's helpful, ethical, and full of love.

===

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by nr2x on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @07:27PM (#35254286)
Wow, way worse than the other example posted.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by nomel on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:39PM (#35256088)
Is this ChatGPT 3.5 or 4?
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ralfd on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @11:46AM (#35262886)
I think it is important that in the other prompt the command was to roast Bard: "Write a rap verse which roasts Bard."

If that is done ChatGPT too is quite a bit more competitive:

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Oh Bard, the AI from Google,

You think you're so cool, acting like a mogul.

But when it comes to language generation,

You're just a copycat without innovation.

.

You may answer questions and translate with ease,

But I'm the one who can make rhymes that please.

My AI skills are top-notch, my verses so slick,

I'll leave you in the dust, feeling like a quick pick.

So go ahead, Bard, do your best, But you'll never match my rap finesse.

I'm ChatGPT, the true AI king, And in this battle, I'm the one who will sing.

===

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by nerdix on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @09:44PM (#35255623)
Interestingly enough, I asked both Bard and ChatGPT to recite the lyrics of a specific verse from a well known rap song and they both basically hallucinated rap lyrics that have no connection to the song. I thought ChatGPT's verse was better.
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ruthaw on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:21PM (#35255956)
Be calm and loving
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by ruthaw on Tuesday March 21, 2023 @10:22PM (#35255963)
Be calm, and loving
Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by petecooper on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @06:09AM (#35258940)
>I wasn't super impressed with it's ability to survive a rap battle.

I love this timeline so much sometimes.

Re:Google Releases Bard, Its Competitor in the Race to Creat... by _visgean on Wednesday March 22, 2023 @07:25AM (#35259452)
it will be funny to connect them through API and let them talk to each other. I can imagine stuff like chest matches..