What do you think the Biden administration would do if they were ignored? Arrest the CEO? Revoke Twitter's corporate charter? Please.

You’ve seen the Senate anti-trust investigation of tech?

Pretty sure “playing ball” helps build goodwill with the people who decide whether to break your company up or not.

I tried to follow, but this idea makes a record for logical leaps. For those of us not as adept at parsing prognostication via tea leaves, can you connect a senate investigation to moderation actions at Twitter?

This wasn't even the Biden Admin as it was 2020 so it was just the campaign team.

Yeah it seems like Twitters political ideology was more operative.

Collusion doesn't require coercion. In fact that's what the tweet thread refers to at the beginning. It is most likely out of political partisanship.

Its partisan to remove dick-pics[1]? You really all have lost the plot if you align yourself to the right over this nothing burger of a story.

[1] The tweets referenced by the biden team were Hunter Biden dick pics, you can check yourself in the Wayback Machine

It is because Twitter does not typically remove pornography. Infamously, Twitter did not even remove reported CSAM until after Musk purchased the company and fired the director of Trust and Safety.

Twitter doesn't delete leaked pornography?!

Uh yeah sorry but nude photos posted without the subject’s consent is definitely and clearly against Twitter TOS. And the law!

Do you have citations for either of those claims?

Twitter definitely removed pornography which wasn’t labeled or which was posted without the consent of the people involved.

As for CSAM, whoever told you that is blatantly lying to you. There are annual reports showing thousands of reports to NCMEC and accounts getting banned - here’s last year:

https://www.missingkids.org/content/dam/missingkids/pdfs/202...

revenge porn is illegal in many jurisdictions

> Infamously, Twitter did not even remove reported CSAM until after Musk purchased the company and fired the director of Trust and Safety

Source on this?

Anecdotally, the reaction of everyone I know working in law enforcement to the Musk purchase and subsequent layoffs was "this is going to make it infinitely more difficult to get CSAM taken down from Twitter".

> Infamously, Twitter did not even remove reported CSAM until after Musk purchased the company and fired the director of Trust and Safety.

Yeah, that’s gonna need a reputable citation.

If someone posts revenge porn then Twitter won't take it down if asked? That seems like it's opening itself up to a lot of lawsuits.

Would be pretty crazy if they didn't! That's exactly how Gawker got sued out of existence, as I suspect everyone here remembers.

Its partisan to censor the laptop story.

There was no Biden administration at the time! In fact, there was not conversation with "the government." Twitter were exercising their freedom of speech (or non speech!)

The US government has a history of going after people that say no to them or that they don't like, yes. Qwest is a great example

Or, like, Twitter? I mean it's interesting to see the white hot outrage and political concern burning everywhere over 'rich billionaire owns social media platform.'

I mean Zuck must be the devil himself by now then... Or is it Musk's ideological views creating such consternation? In which case, also interesting to see the federal interest.

Zuck is pretty widely despised…

Not by the government...

What federal interest?

another great example, yes

Abraham Lincoln sent federal agents to shut down two newspapers with antiwar sentiment in NYC. Those papers never came back.

Good riddance.

Quite interesting, considering they had printed what we might now call as "fake news".

They would probably call for more "common-sense" regulation of Big Tech

"Here, this violates your TOS. Do something".

It didn't violate any ToS though.

These were Hunter Biden dick pics specifically. I am no expert on the Twitter TOS but involuntary pornography seems like it is probably on there.

What about the hundreds of pics of Hunter smoking crack in a bathrobe? What about the emails wherein Hunter describes in some detail his influence peddling operation? "10% for the big guy." Everyone focusing on Hunter's nudes are eliding the real story that Twitter buried. That is, the hard evidence that Biden is corrupt.

That is not any hard evidence of Joe Bide . The only thing it’s hard evidence of is his drug addict son saying things to try and get ahead. It’s like you need to go back to school.

People aren't focusing on Hunter's nudes - that's what Matt Taibbi shared as an example of the requests made by the Biden campaign. If you actually look at the request, again, specifically chosen by Matt Taibbi as an example of a problematic conversation between the political campaign and Twitter, it was a request to remove Hunter Biden nudes. That's what Matt Taibbi specifically decided to share, despite presumably having access to all of this supposedly problematic interactions. That's pretty strong evidence that not much else was going on - if the Biden campaign was trying to suppress more problematic narratives that had to do with corruption, why wasn't this evidence presented?

You fools looking for a mole in a rabbit hole I smell traitors yo the constitution a violation of American vote values the rest of us follow except dump

Ok fools you don’t get it there was nothing out of the ordinary here but you all want yo get your jollies while s sitting president allowed traitors into the white house with no security and his daughter profited on china deals his son don jr took dark money from putin I’ll wait for your response with sone sort of Fox News reality retort . Ok

It’s against the rules to post non-consensual nudes on Twitter.

It most certainly does violate their terms of service: the main terms require you to have copyright permission & any other rights for everything you post and there’s an entire policy specifically banning non-consensual content:

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/intimate-medi...

This page goes back to 2018, too, so it’s hardly new: https://web.archive.org/web/20180103200035/https://help.twit...

> Sharing explicit sexual images or videos of someone online without their consent is a violation of their privacy and one of the most serious violations of the Twitter Rules. In addition to posing serious safety and security risks, it may also result in physical, emotional, and financial hardship for the person whose media is shared.

I was referring to the laptop tweets. The official reason for censoring then was that they referred to hacked materials, but that was untrue as was admitted internally.

Really? You didn’t mention that at the time and this thread was specifically based on a set of tweets which are were non-consensual nudity.

You're right in that I wasn't paying ose enough attention to this particular comment chain before commenting.

Revenge porn is illegal in most of America and also a violation of ToS.

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome Pence?

I just want to ask you. If you came face to face with a tweet that affects you and is in violation of twitters policies, would you not point them out?

It didn't violate any ToS though.

It did. Involuntary pornography.

His nudes definitely did:

> Sharing explicit sexual images or videos of someone online without their consent is a violation of their privacy and one of the most serious violations of the Twitter Rules. In addition to posing serious safety and security risks, it may also result in physical, emotional, and financial hardship for the person whose media is shared.

The hacked content in general is covered by this. Given the contents, it doesn’t appear that the news exemption covers most of the material:

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hacked-materi...

If I were to report something on Twitter, I would click the "Report" button in the UI and I doubt that Twitter employees would internally refer to my reports as "More to review from the olalonde team.". It appears that those reports were submitted outside of the standard reporting process that regular users utilize and were treated preferentially.

Yeah I'm sure nobody at Twitter ever cares about olalonde or me roland35 for that matter, but I'm sure if any famous person like Beyonce or Joe Rogan had a request it's going to the top of the pile!

Spot on and great reference.

Here’s the history on the above quote for those that missed the allusion: https://englishhistory.net/middle-ages/will-no-one-rid-me-of...

The revenge porn pictures? They violate the ToS and is illegal in most states in America.

This doesn't seem to be the original meaning of the term "revenge porn". This is a dude who willingly took pictures of his hog in various situations, and then later those pictures were accessed by various unrelated parties. "Revenge porn" is more the situation in which an innocent woman is pressured by her creepy boyfriend to take videos or pictures that he later personally posts to public sites in response to his disappointment with their relationship. In the latter situation it's clear who is taking "revenge" on whom.

I mean, I guess it's ok to expand the definition, but let's be clear that's what we're doing here. Also, it isn't particularly rhetorically effective.