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Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by mcv on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:11AM (#32662255)
I often think that instead of completely blocking cookies, it would be better to accept them and then throw them away. Same with localStorage. Just store it temporarily.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by cbsks on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:24AM (#32662428)
I’ve been using Cookie AutoDelete for that purpose for the last few years. It works flawlessly for me and brings me comfort in knowing that I am only being tracked online by my browser fingerprint and IP.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autode...

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by bmismyname on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:42AM (#32662654)
Same, I absolutely love this extension. You can whitelist the websites you use frequently, and for everything else it's like a groundhog day every day.

The cookie banners can be super annoying sometimes, but they are easily removed with uBlock Origin. I also frequently have to solve captchas, but it's not so bad. For example, every time I visit amazon.com to order toilet paper or whatever, it thinks I'm a bot, but at least amazon's captchas are less annoying than some of the others.

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by sph on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:55PM (#32665011)
Pair it with "I don't care about cookies". This one clicks Accept on all cookie banners, and Cookie AutoDelete deletes them when the tab is closed.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/i-dont-care-a...

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by bmn__ on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:08AM (#32672615)
Users who do not auto-delete are better served with Consent-O-Matic, this one clicks Deny on all cookie banners and forms by default, but is configurable.

• https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/

• https://github.com/cavi-au/Consent-O-Matic

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by idonotknowwhy on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @04:40PM (#32668068)
This is great, thanks

P. S. If I'm using a separate Firefox container just for Amazon, they would isolate my Amazon cookie right? So then I could just whitelist it and avoid capchas?

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by xahrepap on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @07:50PM (#32669870)
Yes. Each Firefox container has its own cookies.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by vxNsr on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @11:35AM (#32663568)
If you go to Amazon a lot why not whitelist?
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by soperj on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:25PM (#32665473)
One of the last companies I'd whitelist.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by worble on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @11:40AM (#32663658)
I personally wouldn't whitelist any site that has my card details saved.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by hennell on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @11:14AM (#32663175)
A bot with a bowel apparently.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by ac29 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:25PM (#32664517)
One thing worth noting: at least when I installed it, the auto clean functionality (the bit that actually removes the cookie/etc data) is disabled by default. This means it needs configuration to actually do anything aside from manual cleaning.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by duskwuff on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:43PM (#32670796)
The alternative would be that installing the extension immediately wipes all of your cookies, local storage, and other local data. Most users probably don't want this.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by reset-password on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:47AM (#32662721)
Came here to mention this. This is is probably the most useful extension for preserving privacy while also not breaking things. Sites can store all the cookies they want now, but a few minutes after the tab goes away it's like we never met. Very nice.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by matt-attack on Thursday September 01, 2022 @10:13AM (#32676473)
Isn’t that literally what private mode is? It’s a built in feature I thought.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by egoisticalgoat on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:36AM (#32662564)
I do the same! The whitelisting is the best part, since now i can stay logged in to sites that i trust not to track me.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by matt-attack on Thursday September 01, 2022 @10:11AM (#32676446)
Isn’t that essentially what private browsing is? I tend it just always use private mode in safari.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by whiplash451 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:29PM (#32664595)
How robust is that against server-side storage of user data?
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by npteljes on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:24AM (#32662425)
I do this with Firefox's Temporary Containers. Every manually opened tab is a new browsing session, with no cookies etc. Closed tabs' data get deleted after 15 mins. Fantastic addon, and the usage is as seamless as it gets.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by depingus on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:15PM (#32666989)
I do this too! I pair Temporary Containers with the Containerise add-on which lets me create persistent containers for a few specific sites that I want stay logged in to.

This setup works well with one glaring exception... Cloudflare and their stupid boats. Using temporary containers for everything has really shone a light on just how much of the web Cloudflare is gobbling up. Cloudflare throws a captcha at me every time I visit any website they gatekeep for. I'm talking mostly about random sites that turn up in web searches. Its annoying enough that when I encounter a Cloudflare captcha, I just close the tab and try the next site.

Now I'm wondering if there's a way to eliminate results from web searches that use Cloudflare with something like the uBlackList add-on.

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by npteljes on Thursday September 01, 2022 @06:09AM (#32674317)
I do something very similar, but with just the built-in Multi-Account Containers addon. Although its usage is not the most intuitive.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by marcosdumay on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:43AM (#32662665)
Well, I've reacted to the article with an "of course, the Google's browser breaks everything if you try to block tracking".

There is absolutely no reason for letting the javascript know that you've blocked some functionality. It just adds new tracking.

Anyway, the sensible thing to do is to store the values for the lifetime of the page. Simply throwing them away can be an option, but it's a bad default. Non ad based browsers do get it.

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by aendruk on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @08:21PM (#32670117)
> absolutely no reason

An editor warning you that your work hasn’t been saved?

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by oconnor663 on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:41PM (#32671249)
Or a page settings/preferences dialog reminding you that saving your settings isn't going to work. Sure maybe the user "should know that", but not everyone is totally in command of their own browser's settings.

Or a game warning you that your progress will be lost.

There must be tons of legit use cases.

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by stickfigure on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:17AM (#32662337)
This is the answer. Blocking the APIs is just asking for a broken internet, and I have very little sympathy.

Furthermore, blocking the API is a detectable characteristic and increases the surface area of your fingerprint. It has exactly the opposite of the intended effect on privacy.

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by admax88qqq on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:15AM (#32662301)
That's basically incognito/private browsing mode.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by sabjut on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:26AM (#32662445)
Are there ways to do this while whitelisting sites where you want to retain and keep login tokens?
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by jonas-w on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:11PM (#32665269)
Firefox has this when you say delete browsing data on close, next to it is a manage exceptions button
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by handity on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:36AM (#32662567)
Cookie AutoDelete
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by stinos on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:24AM (#32662426)
Just wondering, is there a fully automatic way in e.g. FF to do this? Like right-click 'open in new private tab which automatically accepts all cookie dialogs' ?
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by josefresco on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @11:20AM (#32663278)
"Delete cookies and site data when Firefox is closed"
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by abrookewood on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @07:53PM (#32669898)
Yes, this is the way. Only issue is needing to login to everything again on restart/reboot, but it's a small price to pay.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @09:55PM (#32670902)
There are extensions that will aggressively delete cookies while letting you maintain a whitelist.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by fdgdd on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:04PM (#32682309)
"Manage Exceptions…"
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by oliwary on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @02:51PM (#32666680)
Maybe. I run a word game (https://squareword.org) that uses localstorage to store stats. This allows me to give users statistics without requiring any sort of account or signup. Even so, I often hear from people that have their stats cleared, for example by iOS evicting localstorage after 7 days of not visiting a site.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by pessimizer on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @11:33AM (#32663530)
I pick between the two. Of late that responsibility has been pretty well taken care of by the Forget Me Not extension on Firefox, although I think it's endangered (like a lot of things that have to do with Firefox and its extensions.)

You can set rules with three clicks, four clicks if you want that rule to be temporary and thrown away on browser restart. You may choose between never deleting, deleting on browser close, deleting on tab close, or just throwing them away. The initial setup for default policy has a few UI issues, but the author put a lot of work into it.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/forget_me_not...

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by creatonez on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:55PM (#32671359)
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by Maursault on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @01:00PM (#32665089)
I agree. Private browsing takes care of this for me. I close the tab, cookies are deleted, and I will randomly confirm this occurs occasionally just to be certain. There's no need to get all OCD or self-righteous about cookies when Javascript is the scourge. I can not respect any that block cookies but do not surf with Javascript disabled. Though html5 has nearly but not quite made Javascript irrelevant, the scourge seems to now be built in to html.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by yashap on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @12:46PM (#32664869)
Agreed - Firefox have very legit, useable workflows for avoiding tracking while still having the web function for you. Chrome has IMO a purposefully unusable approach. It’s theatre, they give you the option, but that option breaks the web so badly that you’re not going to want to use it. Which makes sense, they’re an ad sales company, tracking is crucial to their business.
Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by Comevius on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:37AM (#32662578)
This is how I use Firefox, things only stored for the session, for the given container. Containers are better than first-party isolation, because many sites expect to share data with third-parties.

It is also better to fake API responses than to block access to them. In Firefox the privacy.resistFingerprinting option takes care of this. It was originally developed for the Tor Browser.

Re:Things not available when someone blocks all cookies by sdflhasjd on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:32AM (#32662522)
Unfortunately doesn't signal the rejection of tracking by things like fingerprinting.