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Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by pessimizer on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:38PM (#32309449)
> “People need to know they should cook more and prepare their own food from scratch. I know. We say we don’t have time but it really doesn’t take that much time,” Suemoto said.

This is bullshit in a very important way: you have to know how to cook. Bring back home economics classes.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by brightball on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:58PM (#32309759)
I've long been an advocate for a 4 year program that coincides with the entire high school experience.

Students should grow, harvest and cook their own food. While doing so, every subject should be involved.

Chemistry and Biology are the more obvious ones for sake of soil testing, plant biology, cross pollination, and composting. Chemistry also should be involved in cooking.

Math and science classes for sake of grids, spacing, growth charting, control groups, etc as well as conservation.

Economics for understanding all of the costs involved from planting, to harvesting, to buying equipment and hiring labor, shipping to grocery stores, disposal of food that isn't purchased. Additionally, budgeting for ingredients to prepare meals.

History can bring a lot of this to life by studying agricultural history and the accompanying economics, including the world events surrounding them. I'm sure there's plenty of literature go to along with it as well.

And you can even get into computer science, engineering and robotics by setting up FarmBot's in schools, which are open source. Students can learn to use them as designed as well as program new functionality.

Help students learn by making it both beneficial, relatable and connected.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by drewcoo on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:42PM (#32310412)
My high school had vocational agriculture classes that included much of that. Well more mechanics and weather science than history or lit, but still . . . that exists.

Pro tip: If they teach Vo-Ag in your area, look for the FFA (Future Farmers of America) kids. They fund-raise by selling wonderful produce.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by brightball on Monday August 01, 2022 @03:29PM (#32310964)
Great to hear!
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by lezojeda on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:48PM (#32309606)
And tbh, it really does take time to prepare a good meal, including washing dishes and all that. For those of us living alone it takes a good chunk of our free time after work.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by garettmd on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:58PM (#32309756)
Not arguing with you that it takes a considerable amount of time to prepare and clean-up a home cooked meal. But as someone who is not living alone (have a wife and kids), I'd say you probably have a lot more free time than you think you do, and I'm not sure that cooking just for yourself takes up any more time than it would cooking more food, for more people with varying tastes, allergies, etc. Add to the fact that most of the people being cooked for (kids) are basically freeloaders, I think that people living alone really have less excuse to eat healthy.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by sotajensede on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:52PM (#32310515)
> I'd say you probably have a lot more free time than you think you do

Not to sound harsh, this is just how I frame these sorts of things for my own benefit: If you have free time and are getting takeout or eating hot pockets, you're just borrowing that time from the end of your lifespan to use between work and sleep. It's like borrowing from a 401k on a fixed income.

Speaking of, the same goes for finances. We feel like certain essentials are disproportionately expensive because we can otherwise afford previously unheard of luxuries on average incomes, but we are actually just much less wealthy than consumerism makes us feel.

So if we live wisely and with discipline, it is quickly obvious that time and money are in much shorter supply than most realize. That isn't necessarily grim, but this framing is much more useful in good habit forming in my experience.

The value culture in the West has so quickly changed in only a generation or two depending on the specific region, that I'm more suspicious over time of the perceived unobtainability of certain ways of living that we frequently romanticize.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by ParksNet on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:53PM (#32310528)
Electric pressure cookers are the key to encouraging home cooking.

I just throw in Chicken Thighs, Rice, Frozen Vegetables. Add water. Set for 7 minutes. Come back to several servings of perfectly cooked food. Add things like peanut sauce and seasoning to taste before or after pressurization.

Total human involvement time to prep, monitor, and serve: about 5 minutes, ingredients are available at any Walmart. Electric pressure cookers are regularly on sale for $40 at Best Buy.

Cooking the same meal using pots and pans would take 60 minutes of human time and require many more pieces of equipment to buy, use and wash.

Give every poor household in the USA an electric pressure cooker, and the instructions on how to use them. Poor households wouldn't even need cooktops or ovens anymore.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by cj on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:02PM (#32309831)
I live alone and occasionally invite friends over to make + eat dinner together. An extra set of hands prepping food and cleaning up afterwards is definitely faster than doing it solo.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by sudden_dystopia on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:16PM (#32310069)
Totally. But I make one meal each night, if you don’t like it, you are on your own. I don’t mind cooking but I am not a short order cook! My son was making peanut butter and jelly at on his own 4 when he didn’t like what I made.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by ok123456 on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:53PM (#32309701)
Get instapot. Throw ingredients into instapot. Press button. Put contents into bowl. Rinse out instapot. Eat. Rinse out bowl.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by gruez on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:08PM (#32309924)
You don't even need to buy instapot. Roasting/baking is just as easy (especially if you have a thermometer), and most people probably already have a oven/toaster oven at home. The high temperatures that can be achieved with an oven is a plus as well, because that means you can get browning (maillard reaction) that you can't get with a pressure cooker.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by Claudus on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:38PM (#32310346)
Depends on how efficient you are, I prepare 18/21 meals a week at home, and have been doing this for years).

I spend 1 hour every two weeks getting groceries for ~$120. I spend 1.5 hours every two weeks (5 minutes a day + 20 minutes to prep 14 “containers”) preparing breakfast and rinsing dishes from the previous day for the dishwasher). My breakfast is cooked oat bran with walnuts, flax seed, wheat germ, Ceylon cinnamon, cacao, blueberries, raisins, chia seeds, pumpkin seeds, 4oz orange juice, fish oil, vitamins d3, k2.

I spend 2.5 hours a week (5 to 15 minutes a day) preparing lunch, typically steamed vegetables + 150 grams chicken + 1 cup dry instant brown rice cooked OR salmon + simple salad + sweet potatoes OR 8oz unsalted black beans with fresh guacamole OR lentils OR potato and egg tacos with homemade salsa OR “fried” rice, etc.

I spend the same preparing dinner with same / similar dishes as lunch.

I also snack on fresh fruit / vegetables between meals sometimes.

Roughly $240 and 15 hours a month (30 minutes a day) for all food prep + cleanup, and yes, the numbers are accurate as I have timed myself over a two week period in the past, if anything I’m probably faster now. I’m sure there are other factors that can add extra time, but for me, a single guy in the US, I spend less time and money cooking healthy delicious meals at home than I did going out to eat, and only slightly more time than heating up frozen dinners, which I think is more than compensated for by the resulting health benefits.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by antisthenes on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:21PM (#32310128)
Having a sharp knife and preparing food in bulk for at least 3-4 meals is key to time savings. Most single men that I know like to prep food for the entire work week in advance.

If you're making a single serving (e.g. single dinner for yourself), then the overhead of cleaning dishes and pans makes it uneconomical to do so.

Also, certain things in cooking don't need supervision and you can perform other chores during that time (e.g. making beef/chicken stock in a pot, baking a roast, etc.)

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by EricE on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:43PM (#32310416)
Yup - when I was at my most organized I would make a normal family sized meal, eat one portion then portion up the leftovers on a plate, slip the whole thing in a bag and seal with a vacuum sealer and toss 'em in the freezer. Home made TV dinners! Now I'm spoiled with services like Blue Apron, but I still will occasionally make my favorite meals and portion them up into my own frozen dinners :)
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by sudden_dystopia on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:12PM (#32310005)
No doubt. But how much time and money could obesity and cognitive decline cost you?

There are plenty of less complicated, one pot meal recipes littering the internet. Have you tried an Instapot or a nice air fryer?

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by justsomehnguy on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:41PM (#32310391)
I find it is quite troublesome to:

find a recipe

get the ingredients

make the meal

So most of the time I just substitute on pasta with a tomato/cucumber/whatelseIgrabbedintheshop salad.

~20 mins to shop for a two-three days worth of food, ~20 mins to make, even less if I'm lazy and bouggt frozen dumplings.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by cortesoft on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:56PM (#32309741)
> For those of us living alone it takes a good chunk of our free time after work.

It takes even more time for people preparing food for a family. Throw in kids who are picky eaters, and it is even harder.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by kaesar14 on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:05PM (#32309886)
You can make your kids not picky by putting a plate in front of them and providing the choice of either eating it or going to bed hungry. Kids aren't born only wanting to eat chicken nuggets and mac n' cheese.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by cortesoft on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:18PM (#32310090)
I thought this, too, until I had kids. I tried this... they didn't eat, then couldn't fall asleep because they were hungry, so stayed up all night crying because they were hungry. Tried again, they took a few bites then threw it all up.

Maybe they would have broken after a few more days of starvation, but I didn't have it in me to do it.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by sudden_dystopia on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:35PM (#32310305)
What were you trying to feed your kids that they wouldn’t eat anything at all for days? I let my son choose breakfast and lunch, within reason. And then mommy and I choose dinner. If he doesn’t like dinner he can have some fruit or sometimes he makes a pb&j if he is hungrier. If he eats dinner we made, he can have a treat. No dinner, no treat. There is no fight or arguing, that’s just the established rules now and he is aware of them.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by cortesoft on Monday August 01, 2022 @03:12PM (#32310761)
I didn't make it multiple days, and it wasn't just a single food she wouldn't eat.. it was multiple options, but she refused them all.

We have gotten to a better place now. She still will rarely eat what we eat (unless it is on one of her 3-4 meals that she will eat), but there are some healthy (enough) staples that she will eat when we eat our meal... strangely, she likes plain, uncooked, beans from a can with plain rice. She eats berries, and likes to eat plain, uncooked, spinach. She is also more open to trying new foods now, although she almost always dislikes them; our only ask of her is that she at least tries something before refusing it. If it was up to her, she would eat nothing but pizza or chicken nuggets for dinner.

She is 6, and it is an ongoing process to get her to eat more things. She complains that most food is too 'spicy', even if it isn't spicy at all. I don't think there is some magic cure that would make her eat a wider variety of foods. Her grandfather is similar, he only eats the most bland food possible.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by frumper on Monday August 01, 2022 @05:23PM (#32312208)
Saying either he can eat what we eat or have a safe alternative sounds like the exact opposite of eat or go hungry that the thread is about. Your dinner time routine sounds very reasonable. I'm a new parent and our methods are growing into something similar.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by nobody9999 on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:18PM (#32310087)
>You can make your kids not picky by putting a plate in front of them and providing the choice of either eating it or going to bed hungry. Kids aren't born only wanting to eat chicken nuggets and mac n' cheese.

Yep. I never understood the whole "my kids won't eat $x" thing.

When I was a kid, i ate what was given to me (which was the same as everyone else got) or I didn't eat.

And not because we were poor and couldn't afford to indulge me either. We were a family and ate the same food together. There was never any discussion or expectation of anything different.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by jjulius on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:19PM (#32310104)
It's not as easy as "going to bed hungry". It requires work by parents to provide a positive environment when it comes to food - never giving certain foods a stigma, not putting pressure on them to "eat their vegetables", never reminding them what they like or don't like, always making meals positive, letting them choose what to eat, etc.. The concept is, I believe, called "baby-led weaning"; my wife discovered it and both of our kids are phenomenal eaters as a result.

But yeah, it's absolutely not as simple or easy as, "Well, if ya don't eat you'll be hungry" - because congratulations, now they will carry that hatred towards that food with them and it'll come out the next time you serve it to them. And even then, if they're not picky, cooking still takes time because there's a kid running around who often doesn't give a shit about the fact that you have to tend to whatever's cooking at the moment, or they're too little so you need to modify your food prep in order to eliminate/reduce choking hazards.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by cortesoft on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:26PM (#32310205)
While your suggestions about how to treat food as to not create issues down the road are correct, I still think you are attributing too much power to parents. Everyone wants to believe that if you just do these certain things, then your kids will turn out a certain way. That just isn't true; while a parent can help shift some things, a lot of things are just about how a particular kid is. Some kids are just more picky than others, no matter what parenting techniques you use.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by jjulius on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:59PM (#32310612)
I never said that any kind of parenting method is guaranteed to achieve the results you want. My kids still aren't into certain foods and won't eat them, but it's not like they actively hate those foods, and I'm not setting thems up for avoiding those foods entirely in the future. It's a general concept that I am sure we will find ourselves employing throughout their lives, even as adults - build and maintain a strong foundation upon which they can grow on their terms.

The crux of my point was to highlight that parenting is never as simplistic as the previous comment ("All ya have to do is tell them to eat or go hungry!") may have made it sound, not to suggest that you can mold your children exactly as you would like.

Edit: And your point about some kids being pickier than others is actually exactly my point. That's why I said it's not easy - it has taken a lot of time and patience for us to get our children to this point. I've heard stories of parents struggling for over a year or more to get a kid to break certain eating habits. It's not just picky eating, though - correcting various aspects of a child's personality requires a LOT of time and attention, often over the course of years. That's why I took an issue with OP brushing it off so casually.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by collaborative on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:29PM (#32310238)
Best method that works until they are 7: make up an imaginary friend (like a fairy, gnome, etc) that visits you once a year and brings you toys IF you eat the being's favorite foods, which happen to coincide with what the child detests

Works. 100% guaranteed. They will eat everything with a smile

In my case, I use the Tio de Nadal, which makes for a fun time when he visits (Kids have to hit the Tio with a stick and sing songs, then he shits sweets and toys)

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by sudden_dystopia on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:25PM (#32310188)
This is the way. I also gave them the extra option to eat fruit instead of what I made. Also works wonders in the morning when he gets dressed slowly. “Oh you aren’t ready,bummer, looks like we are going to school in your pj’s”. Only needs to happen once and they get ready real quick.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by mjburgess on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:46PM (#32309572)
I think that required housewives. We're missing a full day's domestic labour.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:48PM (#32309599)
Nah. I work long hours and still find time to cook. Dinner takes about 15 mins to prepare, on average. I think the issue has more to do with people not knowing how to cook things that are both simple and nutritious.

I really feel for people who are trying to learn; every beginner's cookbook is full of things that require specific ingredients, complicated prep work, or a shit-ton of chopping.

I've toyed around with the idea of writing a cookbook of my own, but _that_ is something I truly do not have time for. Ah well :/

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by cortesoft on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:58PM (#32309762)
> Dinner takes about 15 mins to prepare, on average.

This doesn't include time to meal plan, grocery shop, and clean dishes. Also, 15 minutes isn't a ton of time, but it isn't nothing.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by mjburgess on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:04PM (#32309872)
It also doesn't include the opportunity cost of not doing all that. If getting a meal quick saves stress, time, planning, etc. etc. then it's providing a highly valuable service.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:10PM (#32309966)
If you truly cannot find 15-30 mins for this, then I have no advice to offer.

For the rest, having your groceries delivered is one solution. Life is about trade-offs.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by giantg2 on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:18PM (#32310084)
Maybe we could unionize the tech industry so we have the time to cook healthy meals.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:24PM (#32310178)
If you're working so many hours that you physically cannot cook for yourself, then you have my sincerest sympathy, but that is not the norm. Speak for yourself.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by kayodelycaon on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:00PM (#32309794)
I don’t know anything how to cook anything from fresh ingredients that takes just 15 minutes from entering the kitchen to going to the table to eat. It takes 7 minutes for my kettle to bring 1.5 L of water to boil. (Yay 120v…)

Instant oatmeal I guess? Anything requiring dairy or eggs won’t work.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by volumetric on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:28PM (#32310222)
I've been cooking a long time and IME there's about a 95% chance that a recipe billed as "15 minutes" is only actually 15 minutes if you don't start the timer until all the veggies are processed, all the equipment is out, and all the ingredients are measured.

Almost always the actual time for "15-minute meal" is 30-40 minutes—sometimes even longer. Not counting stuff like clean-up (any that you can't accomplish via clean-as-you-go, anyway) or shopping or any of that, just the actual time between "I have all the stuff I need for this recipe and am going to make it now" and "OK it is ready to eat".

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @08:39PM (#32313922)
Agreed. This is precisely the issue with a lot of beginner-oriented cookbooks.

Fortunately, 15 min start-to-finish recipes exist. And once you have four or five under your belt, it becomes something of a pleasure to extend the 15 mins to 20 (or even 30) and make something better. At least, when you have the time, which for me is on Sunday.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by nonameiguess on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:15PM (#32310049)
Non-instant oatmeal takes 5 minutes. Eggs 2 minutes (but fine if you won't eat them). Broiling a steak takes 6 minutes. Broiling a salmon filet takes 15 minutes. A single serving of rice in a saucepan takes about 15 minutes. Steaming or sauteeing vegetables takes about 10 minutes, plus a few more to chop them up at the start (though not the insane time to dice tomatoes or onions). Boiling and mashing potatoes takes about 10 minutes.

These are the basic staples I use personally. Three meals a day, hand-cooked from scratch. Add to that something pre and post workout consisting of whey protein, fresh fruit, and possibly some maltodextrin or blended frozen berries, that don't need to be cooked, and that's my entire diet.

I never had to take a home ec class and my mom did not teach me to cook. The basics are pretty simple. Apply heat until what you're heating is sufficiently palatable or above a safe temperature for meats that is indicated directly on the thermometer. Working from home is pretty key, though, since I don't have to eat super early in the morning, super late at night, or reheat a soggy lunch in the break room microwave. I guess a more powerful stove helps, as it doesn't take me anywhere near 7 minutes to bring a pot to boiling.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:21PM (#32310134)
Adding to this (excellent) summary:

- Buy the best ingredients you can

- Taste and smell as you go

- Don't overcook

Following these three rules will allow for culinary experimentation, while avoiding disaster.

Final bit of advice: enjoy it. It's fun to make something delicious, especially after a hard day full of "emotional labor" and whatnot.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by justsomehnguy on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:57PM (#32310587)
> Final bit of advice

Don't be afraid to fail. The worst what can be is what you would wait for a pizza delivery while you are scrubbing pots.

No snapshots and backups there!

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:06PM (#32309902)
Ok, so you can add 5 mins to set the table. Are we really going to nit-pick?

If you can't find 30 mins to make a meal, lowering that to 15 mins isn't going to make a difference. Just get up 30 mins earlier if it comes to that.

If you can't do that, then yeah ... you might be part of the .005% of people who are really in a bind, and physically cannot cook for themselves. My advice does not apply to such cases, and I can only give you my sincerest best-wishes.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by mjburgess on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:08PM (#32309939)
You're not pricing the stress and emotional labour required to do this at the end of the day, for people who also have to look after children; themselves, etc.

This isnt an issue of whether people can physically move.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:12PM (#32310002)
If you're not in a place where you can find 15-30 mins to cook for yourself, you indeed have much bigger problems that cooking advice cannot solve. I sincerely wish you fair winds.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by jfim on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:34PM (#32310291)
I was struggling with that until I started prepping ingredients ahead of time.

If you already have diced onion, bell peppers, and mushrooms in the fridge, then it doesn't even take fifteen minutes to make an omelette, a salad, or some sauteed vegetables with sausage.

The only thing that you need is that after bringing groceries home you need to prep the vegetables and put them in the fridge. The good thing is that all that labor is amortized for the rest of the week, and it makes home cooking easier and faster than ordering delivery.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by nobody9999 on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:21PM (#32310130)
>Anything requiring dairy or eggs won’t work.

Is that because you're vegan, or because you think it takes a long time?

I'll be having an omelette for dinner this evening and if it takes me more than 10 or so minutes to prepare, I'll be quite surprised.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by kayodelycaon on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:46PM (#32310452)
I'm allergic to caesin or whey and I haven't figured out what is in eggs that makes me feel sick.

My diet is basically vegan + meat. (Easiest way to explain it.)

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by nobody9999 on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:58PM (#32310602)
I'm sorry. I imagine that limits you in many ways, since dairy and eggs are ubiquitous in western cooking.

Stir-fry meat and vegetables can be quite tasty and quick to prepare.

Something like mustard greens or gai lan[0] can be shredded by hand in a few moments and/or cut up almost as quickly.

Mushrooms (whole if you're in a rush, or sliced -- that only takes a minute or so), tofu (i prefer firm tofu), are also quite nice for such a dish.

And you can grill your meat/fish/poultry and saute your vegetables too.

Fresh fruit is also quite tasty.

I guess my point is that one can make tasty, healthful food quickly and easily, even if you have dietary restrictions.

In fact, those with dietary restrictions are likely better off cooking than eating prepared/pre-processed foods, as you don't have any insight/control over the kitchen/factory in which those foods are prepared.

Not telling you what to do, just sharing my experiences. I hope you find them useful.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gai_lan

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by picture on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:53PM (#32309705)
Have you come across any good (or, better,) cookbooks or resources for simple and nutritious food? I'm about to go to college so it would be a great help
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:04PM (#32309865)
I have heard good things about Tim Ferriss' The Four Hour Chef, though I have not read it myself. What I like about it is that it seems to focus on the process of cooking, rather than giving you a list of recipes. It's about turning you into "someone who cooks" rather than documenting such and such recipe.

The rules of thumb, which I am paraphrasing from secondhand discussions about the book, are as follows:

1. Buy good ingredients.

2. Taste and smell as you go.

3. Herbs and spices are your friends.

4. Don't overcook.

I agree with all of them.

Here's the thing: cooking is a skill, like juggling or programming. Just knowing all the rules (techne) doesn't suffice to actually perform the act. You need to spend some time applying the principles to concrete situations (metis). The good news is that if you follow the above rules, you'll basically never make something inedible.

Another tip I can give you is to get familiar with substitution ingredients. Don't have any sour cream? Yogurt is probably fine.

Now, in direct contradiction with what I've been saying so far, let me share with you one of my favorite recipes that got me through my PhD. Cooking time: 10 mins.

INGREDIENTS:

1. 1 or two whole leeks, depending on how hungry you are

2. Sour cream (or whatever)

3. Bacon (or lardons, if you can find them, but seriously... whatever)

4. White wine (optional, but _really_ makes a difference. Prefer dry wine, but whatever.)

PREP:

1. Cut your leek in 1cm rings. Throw away the dark green part.

COOKING:

1. Cook your bacon until crispy, then crumble it and set it aside.

2. While the bacon is cooking, put some butter in a pan and cook your leeks until they're soft and slightly translucid (kinda like you would cook an onion). Don't sweat it; it's hard to fuck up.

3. Add bacon and sour cream. Stir.

4. Add white wine. Stir until you're happy with the consistency

Boom. Done. Keeps well in the fridge, to boot.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by helmholtz on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:20PM (#32310113)
Flat leafed parsley, Parmesan, and mix this all into farfalle and its a Gordon Ramsay approved recipe.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:22PM (#32310140)
Agreed, but let's not overwhelm the guy/gal ;)
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by justsomehnguy on Monday August 01, 2022 @03:08PM (#32310725)
> I'm about to go to college

You don't even need a cookbook, just take your time to learn how to use a frying pan and basic boiling in a pot skill.

Eg:

Plain pasta - cheap, extreamly energy dense, soggy if you overcook or don't use enough water (1L/100g dry w.)

Now chop the onion, saute until it's ready, drop the [the timed to cook, it's hard first three times] pasta in it for a 15-30 secs. BAM, a whole different meal.

Now the same, but add a grated carrots. BAM, a whole different meal.

The same but add tomatos OR tomate paste: BAM, whole two new meals.

Now replace pasta with a boiled or fried potatoes: BAM, 8 more meals.

Replace/add frozen vegetables - BAM... well, you know, more meals.

Just learn how to time, not using American anounts of oil and when it is time to get the pan or pot of the heat.

And no, no plastic anything IN the oven.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by bobkazamakis on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:48PM (#32309603)
yeah lets gender cooking now too in the effort to...?
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by omginternets on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:46PM (#32309573)
This. I'm one of the fortunate ones who learned to cook from my mother. Teaching me to cook is truly one of the greatest favors she did for me, bar none. This is not only because cooking is an essential part of eating well, but also because it's such a goddamn joy (if you're not following a recipe).
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by proc0 on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:05PM (#32309891)
I've noticed people are afraid of cooking for no reason. Everyone needs to eat, so it's an obvious skill to pick up. It doesn't take much to learn the basics and cook for yourself by trial and error. Cooking for others is on another level though.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by beej71 on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:57PM (#32309750)
There's plenty of how-to-cook information on the internet. I'm a passable cook from what I've learned online. It's easy to learn a new thing every meal, and after a month, you have quite a toolkit.

So I don't disagree with you, but I think there's a faster, easier way now than home ec.

And to Suemoto, every nontrivial thing you cook takes waaaaay longer than getting a $9 burrito.

Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by zarriak on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:05PM (#32309896)
I don’t think that it’s that they can’t cook at all. I do agree you should learn more about it in general for reduction of waste and food safety. A lot of the problem however is people don’t ever get over the hump where the time investment pays off and you become more proficient, faster and a better cook in general.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by the_doctah on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:58PM (#32309757)
Cooking is literally as simple as following a recipe.
Re:Cognitive decline linked to ultraprocessed food, study finds by hypertele-Xii on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:33PM (#32310276)
Like playing an instrument is just following the notes?

You can do it, but the result won't be good until you practise some. Mistakes will be made. Results may have to be eaten due to financial constraints, good or not.